Government unveils new laws to tackle illegal internet downloads

Government unveils new laws to tackle illegal internet downloads - Telegraph

Under the proposed legislation, Internet Service Providers (ISPs) would be required to notify users accused of online piracy.

They would also have to record how many times each subscriber receives one of these notifications.

This would allow the copyright holders to apply for a court order to get the name and address of serious repeat offenders so they can take legal action against them.

But the Bill, announced in the Queen's Speech on Wednesday and published on Friday, also makes provision for the Secretary of State to direct communications regulator Ofcom to develop tough sanctions for illegal file-sharers.

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I guess they are trying to make a Pirate Finder General also.

dirtpoorchris said:

Government unveils new laws to tackle illegal internet downloads - Telegraph



I guess they are trying to make a Pirate Finder General also.

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This legislation needs to be dropped. The imbecile responsible for creating it needs to be removed from office.

Oh good. All the street thugs have been locked away, the burglars on trial and all the rapists convicted. We have the dole cheats punished, bogus asylum seekers all sent home and the mad mullahs told to shut up or else.

All is well in the country. Well, it must be if all our masters can do now is mess about harassing people choosing to download an episode of The Sopranos rather than record it off the telly.

This looks another one of those big business bungs-for-laws jobs to me. (And how many more of those will take place behind clsoed doors in the ultra-secretive EU?)

Luckily this also looks one of those too-much-trouble-than-it's-worth things. The ISPs will be sued all the time if many of these heavy PC users are as savvy as they say.

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Oh good. All the street thugs have been locked away, the burglars on trial and all the rapists convicted. We have the dole cheats punished, bogus asylum seekers all sent home and the mad mullahs told to shut up or else.

All is well in the country. Well, it must be if all our masters can do now is mess about harassing people choosing to download an episode of The Sopranos rather than record it off the telly.

This looks another one of those big business bungs-for-laws jobs to me. (And how many more of those will take place behind clsoed doors in the ultra-secretive EU?)

Luckily this also looks one of those too-much-trouble-than-it's-worth things. The ISPs will be sued all the time if many of these heavy PC users are as savvy as they say.

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You do know that this law like all the others that have been attempted will most likely be struck down by the EU as against EU laws right?.

Who knows. But if they do it'll be a double-edged sword because proposals are always being bandied about up there to charge people sky-high licence rates just to host a blog or use a website.

So it'll end up being a better economy to pay the higher prices for an internet connection to download your crook material, rather than buying your CDs and movies in the shops and going without your modem use.

EU targets internet tax avoidance | Business | The Guardian

EU ends free Internet tax ride - CNET News

Why are the socialists so obsessed with taxing all and everything that moves until the pips squeak? Don't they know how to manage their money in the EU?

Ah, no, they don't.

Republic_Of_Public said:

Who knows. But if they do it'll be a double-edged sword because proposals are always being bandied about up there to charge people sky-high licence rates just to host a blog or use a website.

So it'll end up being a better economy to pay the higher prices for an internet connection to download your crook material, rather than buying your CDs and movies in the shops and going without your modem use.

EU targets internet tax avoidance | Business | The Guardian

EU ends free Internet tax ride - CNET News

Why are the socialists so obsessed with taxing all and everything that moves until the pips squeak? Don't they know how to manage their money in the EU?

Ah, no, they don't.

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LOL talk about mixing things up. They have nothing to do with each other.

In fact the EU has been quite open about such laws that the Brits and French are proposing. They have stated that if they want a 3 strikes and you are out (or similar) rule, then it can not happen without a judicial review in a court of law. Why is this important? Because the French (who were first with such a law) and the British both wanted the ISPs and a government organisation to decide when and who to cut off and there was no appeal possibility and not putting the legal system into the frame. One would have thought that this was logical, but no in the eyes of the French and British governments...

Now that is the EU commission and Parliament that has put that requirement in place, but that does not mean that the laws are legal in accordance to the EU treaty. Only taking them through the EU court system will figure that out. We have everything from freedom of trade over to freedom of speech involved here after all.

As for your two links. The first link.. So you are against fighting fraud? Have you even read the article? And if you had, you have no problem companies avoiding taxes by "shopping around"? If you did that, you would go to jail...

The second link.. and ?

Europe and US scramble to close Internet tax loophole - Business, News - The Independent

Maybe you should read about it before just linking google links. Another tax loophole.. so? Are you seriously saying that if I bought an article over the Internet and hence avoid VAT and duty, then that is fine when you are forced to buy the same article locally with full VAT and duty on?

I discovered a rather sinister little anti-piracy advert, pitched at the level of encouraging kids to grass on their peers, Nazi Germany-style, for doing things the State doesn't like. (Or rather the people who pass it the highest bungs.. er, I mean successfully lobby them to draft the laws.)

Commodore Remix • View topic - A rather insalubrious piracy advert from 1990

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It's been a while since the above and I can barely remember what I wanted to drive at. But it seems I virtually got there but wasn't clear with the links and got sidelined over them.

But I think I may have been moving on to say that it wouldn't help little people to mix big business pressure with the dead hand of EU beaurocracy. They already want to ban people telling the truth or writing things the Establishment finds offensive. And the remit would stretch much further out than the writers of the BNP website.

Gates of Vienna: Ain't No "Free" Speech in the EUSSR: It's Going to Be EXPENSIVE