Thread: War in Iraq inquiry

The inquiry into the War in Iraq opened today. It is the intention of the enquiry to leave no stone unturned, and will portion blame to, individuals-organisations or procedures. There will be NO criminal procecuation[s] coming out of the findings.

Sir John Chilcotts opening statement

BBC News - Sir John Chilcot opens Iraq war inquiry in London

so what ultimately can it achieve?

Iraq inquiry: British officials heard 'drum beats' of war from US before 9/11 - Telegraph

Paul

Originally Posted by gunner

The inquiry into the War in Iraq opened today. It is the intention of the enquiry to leave no stone unturned, and will portion blame to, individuals-organisations or procedures. There will be NO criminal procecuation[s] coming out of the findings.

Sir John Chilcotts opening statement

BBC News - Sir John Chilcot opens Iraq war inquiry in London

so what ultimately can it achieve?

Iraq inquiry: British officials heard 'drum beats' of war from US before 9/11 - Telegraph

Paul

Nothing, thats all that political institutions seem to do these days, comdemn, and actually do very little.
I suppose this inquiry will set the pretext on how the future generations will remember this war and how it will be written down in the history books.

BBC News - Inquiry told Iraq could not 'use' chemical weapons

Surprise, surprise the evidence presented to the British public was, contradictory

"There was also a suggestion that Iraq might lack warheads capable of effective dispersal of agents."

But Sir William added there was "contradictory intelligence".

The inquiry thus far, looks to be confirming earlier suggestions of misinformation, at the very least, but an exaggeration, or lie at worse.

"The BBC's world affairs correspondent Peter Biles said a lot of the intelligence which the government received in the run-up to the war was confused and, as previous inquiries have shown, inaccurate"

It makes you wonder why the intelligence has proved to be so wrong.

Paul

Gunner well said m8,i wonder myself,intelligence was there any,just made up
as i think between Bush and blair,sad that all these people have died.

all the best m8

mikeey

Originally Posted by kaya'08

Nothing, thats all that political institutions seem to do these days, comdemn, and actually do very little.
I suppose this inquiry will set the pretext on how the future generations will remember this war and how it will be written down in the history books.

The pretext was set the second the US decided to go to Iraq. Blaming others for a wrong decision will not help you. Defending an illegal war will not help you either.

Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra

The pretext was set the second the US decided to go to Iraq. Blaming others for a wrong decision will not help you. Defending an illegal war will not help you either.

Im not blaming anyone, our government made its choice and went to war.

Maximus, please tell me what LEGAL bases you have to tell me this war is illegal?

Originally Posted by kaya'08

Im not blaming anyone, our government made its choice and went to war.

Maximus, please tell me what LEGAL bases you have to tell me this war is illegal?

I am talking about the US, but yes also the UK..

International law and norm is what I am talking about when saying the war was illegal.

Originally Posted by kaya'08

Maximus, please tell me what LEGAL bases you have to tell me this war is illegal?

The US was not justified in invading Iraq. That others followed this idiotic decision shows how foolish they were.

Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra

I am talking about the US, but yes also the UK..

International law and norm is what I am talking about when saying the war was illegal.

"Out of the norm" constitutes "illegal" does it?

Id have you know the current war in Iraq is being conducted within the legal framework of the UN and various other institutions.
Just because you dont agree with it, doesnt make it illegal.

Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08

The US was not justified in invading Iraq. That others followed this idiotic decision shows how foolish they were.

Id beg to differ on that view but you have no legal bases to say it is illegal regardless.

Originally Posted by kaya'08

"Out of the norm" constitutes "illegal" does it?

Id have you know the current war in Iraq is being conducted within the legal framework of the UN and various other institutions.
Just because you dont agree with it, doesnt make it illegal.

No it wasnt. It broke UN laws, which is international law. and international law = international norm.

The US broke this and went to Iraq without UN approval, with a loose justification in that a number of allies accepted it and went with them. The only majority that was with the US, was the majority of irrelevant states the US picked to accept their mission and go with them against UN laws and international acceptance, and against the will of the security council.

The only reason no one reacted was because no one was willing to start global war and nuclear disaster over a ****ty country like Iraq, which if they had choosen to Russia would have complete legitimacy in doing so at the time within the framework of international law.

Originally Posted by kaya'08

Id beg to differ on that view but you have no legal bases to say it is illegal regardless.

Illegal in this sense means it was NOT legal. And it wasnt legal. The US went into Iraq by exploiting a technicality they had worked into a million pieces of paper. And the technicality was only possible to use as justification by the US saying Iraq had nuclear weapons, which they didnt, and didnt attempt to have.

So yes, the war was illegal by international law. Just because its legal to kill someone in self defense, doesnt mean its right to frame the situation and then kill someone you dont like.