Thread: Brown unveils Labour's fightback manifesto

• Create 250,000 free childcare places
• Scrap compulsory ID cards
• Build care home network for teenage mothers
• End hereditary House of Lords
• Hold referendum on Alternative Vote

Prime minister tells delegates at Labour conference the only consistent thing about the Conservatives is that they are consistently wrong

In a determined 59-minute speech to the Labour conference in Brighton, the prime minister told his party it needed to "fight, not bow out, fight to win".

He also pledged to:

• Reform tax relief by the end of the next parliament to provide 250,000 free childcare places for two-year-olds for the first time.

• Delay the introduction of compulsory ID cards for British citizens in the next parliament.

• Provide a network of supervised homes for 16- and 17-year-old parents.

• Create up to 10,000 green job placements.

• Protect the schools budget.

Gordon Brown conference speech: Labour must not bow out, but fight to win | Politics | guardian.co.uk

Did Brown save his hide?
I did like the speech especially certain policies.

You just have to hand it to the ordures celebre in NuLab to deliver promises of a bright and golden future. Trouble is that when the timeline of the future encroaches on that of the present, things come a touch unstuck.

It's been far from the first time that c*nference promises have been ignored back in Whitehall. I remember, for example, Home Secretary Reid promising his great ongoing crime crackdown, only for us to find street thuggery and knife crime rising and the government taking another year to properly react to it.

And here's another, from a NuLab blog: Labourhome Blog Archive Another broken promise? We are handing even more ammunition to the Tories! . And those are just examples on the tip of my tongue!

Childcare places and all that swaddling? I hear that seemingly every year. Why's it not done if the promise needs remaking?

ID cards? Typical spin to trumpet the proposed abolition of something so hated which they wanted themselves, in bitter spite of we nobodies in the Public.

Alternative Vote? No referendum on the much more constitutionally signifacnt Reform Treaty though.

House of Lords? Not that swivel-headed Red baloney again. Besides, Blair packed the Lords with NuLab cronies and turned it into a bigger shame than the old Trots in Labour say the Lords always was.

Supervised homes? That means cameras in the houses of antisocial vermin for whom ASBOs don't work and a decent prison term is unthinkable. Unthinkable to the very Socialist scum who want to inflict Patrick McGoohan's village on a national scale. (And who'll be monitored after all the yobs have been videod? We've already got microchips in the dustbins and spies in the sky against car drivers.)

Schools budget? The whole system's a bleeding shambles. NuLab have, for example, so lumbered the schools with extra red tape and student-union dogma through the Dept of Education that they could barely function effectively even with the extra cash promised.

Almost makes you want Blair back! What? Oh God, did I just say that! Someone just take Labour outside and give it the lethal injection, the rancid little rectums!

And so, in that spirit, take heart from JOHNATHAN LEFTWINGER'S PRAGMATIC APPROACH TO DEALING WITH CONSTANT LABOUR FAILURE:

http://www.concept-single.net/moral_ratsmaze.mp3


You just have to be morally flexible, otherwise you'd be crushed by the constant disappointment of being a total turnip! After all, logic dictates that Labour can't be failures ALL the time, so surely the Public must take their share of the blame by not pulling the weight!

• Provide 250,000 free childcare places for two-year-olds.

The places for 3 & 4 year olds are limited to 5 2.5 hr sessions per week.. how long will they fund these places for 2 yr olds?
Personally I think 2 year olds should be with the caring parent and would rather the Got encouraged or paid towards parents costs for caring for their own kids.

• Delay the introduction of compulsory ID cards for British citizens.

Which never should have been proposed in the first place.. scrap the ID card and spend the money on proper security measures.

• Provide a network of supervised homes for 16- and 17-year-old parents.

Rather the money was spent on prevention and better sex education when the kids are younger. I can't for the life of me see how providing a free home
for underage parents is going to dis-incentivise under age pregnancy.

• Create up to 10,000 green job placements.

OK, as log as the jobs are self sustaining and not some token gesture.

• Protect the schools budget.

Better sack Ed Balls then...

• Hold a referendum on the alternative vote electoral system after the election.

While the country wants a referendum on the EU...

• Remove hereditary peers in the House of Lords "once and for all", in the next parliament.

They've promised this since 1997, 12 years later, still promising and not delivering.

• Give constituents the right to remove corrupt MPs.

I thought we had this - it's called "voting" unless he's talking about enforced eviction outside an election, and if the politician is proven corrupt - why just remove them? Surely, we should be seeing the police investigate corrupt MPs?

• Increase the role of post offices in providing financial services.

While at the same time the Govt has been closing down Post Offices in areas they are most needed?

Hmm.. a whole load of tosh and empty promises!

Originally Posted by Laila

Gordon Brown conference speech: Labour must not bow out, but fight to win | Politics | guardian.co.uk

Did Brown save his hide?
I did like the speech especially certain policies.

Looks tempting, but I can spot at least one policy that was promised in 1997 only for Blair to change his mind.

I have to make a correction to my earlier words about supervised homes.

This is indeed about something other than the scheme I mentioned. It's the 'Gulag For Slags' policy which I sould have commented on.



REPLACEMENT TEXT:

Supervised homes? 'Gulags For Slags' as mentioned elsewhere. That's what comes of teaching kids to have sex then giving them condoms for the job. Obviously they're not going to just say no to a jolly good rodger after that little induction!

Originally Posted by Laila

Gordon Brown conference speech: Labour must not bow out, but fight to win | Politics | guardian.co.uk

For the second year running, Sarah Brown gave a heartfelt introduction to her "hero" husband on the conference stage.
"I know a lot about my husband; we've been married for nine years now. We've had some great times and we will be together for all times," she said.
"Because we've been together for so long, I know he's not a saint – he's messy, he's noisy – but I know he goes to bed every night and he gets up every morning thinking about the things that matter."
Sarah Brown said she had always been struck by how someone so intense would make time for family, friends and everyone who knows him.
"That's why I love him as much as I do. That's what makes him the man for Britain too."
Admitting her husband had a "tough job", she said she wouldn't want it for the world, but added: "Every day I'm glad he's the one up there doing the job."

Trivial Pursuit question. Category: Politics

Which Condi video did Sarah Brown appear in as "The Lady in Red"?

[html]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX0PD8PmvXs[/html]

• End hereditary House of Lords

This one is very much playing to the Labour base isn't it. What with the shambles after the last time they removed a lot of the "incorruptibles" I'm surprised they want to go down that road again, they'd do better to actually come up with a decent model for a second chamber.

• Reform tax relief by the end of the next parliament to provide 250,000 free childcare places for two-year-olds for the first time.

Ah don't you love middle class welfare.

I'd rather kids were at home with their parents.

hell of a lot better than staying home unwatched when there parents are out working. this is simple stuff get on the ball here.

Originally Posted by Badfish420

hell of a lot better than staying home unwatched when there parents are out working. this is simple stuff get on the ball here.

Did I say I wanted that? I want mothers and many fathers to be able to raise their children again.

If you are going to give people advise, at least use capital letters.