Who's Afraid of the EDL?

...I'm not. They are just a bunch of jumped-up yobs out looking for trouble, who think that their anti-terrorist 'crusade' is the pretext they need to provoke the 'other side' into a barney.

And boy, does the tactic work. As put across by well-known Leftist blogger Lenin's Tomb (!), counter-gangs of apparently ordinary decent young Muslims, plus heroic defenders of freedom for the People across the social spectrum, acquitted themselves beautifully by lunging just as forcefully against the UDF as they would have wanted against them. Nobody comes out with any credit. All the decent people stayed at home.

Unite Against Fascism has a piece on them ( Unite Against Fascism - John Denham is right to condemn the English Defence League as an anti-Muslim hate group ), but I find it hard to credit that such a group hasn't been infiltrated and crippled by now. The likes of the National Front always moaned during the 70s and 80s that MI5 and journalists were always running around and exposing them, but it's claimed that nobody seems to even know who EDL's real leaders are.

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My commentary, for what it's worth:


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BLURB: Johnathan Leftwinger recoils in horror from the assertion that the Reds and 'militant' Muslims are just as culpable as their diametrical opposites when rioting breaks out.

Indeed, as the EDL is 'boxed in' by police at protests, the radicals are usually the ones to seize their chance for some bloodletting.


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One-sided condemnation of the clashes by the political classes can help lead to the likes of Daily Star readers, voting in a poll by an overwhelming 98% apparently, to declare that the EDL is morally in the right. Bloody public, they go with the clear-cut bad guys through spite! (And I think The Star helps steer 'em.)

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Labour and their affiliated Left Wing turds like to claim that more and more bigots are misreading the social situations and are in the thrall of extremist organisations and racist newspapers. Be that right or wrong, it's still interesting that all this is happening at such a fevered pitch only now when New Labour have gotten their grubby paws on the levers of power and done their damage.

Brilliant argument, I have to agree with you as worrying as the subject may be!

It is interesting the EDL has suddenly emerged and no-one has a clue who it's leaders are. Although they will no doubt find a following and the instigators will drop away. Even with the IRA and NF in the 70s and 80s people were well aware of the faces behind the flags. It would not surprise me in the least if the agent-provocatear were some secret New Labour think-tank designed to stir up a race riot - because that is exactly what they are doing!

Why unveil Israeli flags outside a mosque? It is like poking a beehive... and we all know what nature does to poor bees even if they sting by mistake.

Any decent anti-facsist who oppose the EDL should consider staying away and look at what's really happening here. Do you really want to be part of a race riot? Goodness, people wake up. It's a TRAP!

I can't see it being the State somehow, though it would suit NuLab's book to be able to paint people from all sides as the extremists when the riots kick off and the crackdowns start. I fail to see how Labour would want a riot. I can understand riots occurring despite Labour's inept social management but it doesn't follow that they'd set up conditions for riots to begin. I coudn't offer an opinion as to who is behind it.

The boot-boys are conventional thugs but the organisers are shadowy and evasive, even for the authorities. Or so we're told. Whether that's true or whether it's false but we're not told, that's very fishy.

It was linked to the BNP by those who would make those knee-jerk accusations, but it seems clear that a BNP-endorsed yob army would never be given any airtime at all by the media. Indeed, they'd be crucified. (The National Front on the other hand, though seemingly sceptical themselves, nevertheless call for the EDL to affiliate with them for patronage and 'guidance'.)

It appears significant that they seem to be a rather efficient organisation for what they're supposed to be - professional-looking flags, buttons and indentikit 'outfits' appear to give a lie to the 'organic' nature of the 'movement'. They're too well co-ordinated.

It also puzzles me how the police claim that they had little notice or inkling of the troubles occurring, even though any half-decent intelligence would have been able to note any coming demos a mile off.

They seem to have a striking resemblance to the English Democrats though.. funny since they've just announced they will be chasing 120 seats in Westminster next year so the EDL could be some kind of supporting front for their agenda. The English Democrats obviously have the resources to be behind such as group. Maybe I'm wrong.. but that's the best theory I can think of!

BBC News: English Democrats eye 120 seats