16 deaths in a North Sea helicopter crash. Fly and Die.

Peter Dow · 04-03-09, 07:54 PM

From Scottish Republican News

The reckless pursuit of oil and gas industry profits, as approved by the UK state, the Queen and her ministers, claimed 16 lives and made April fools of all North Sea workers. 1st April 2009.

BBC: Helicopter crash probe continues

Bastard Salmond, bastard Brown and the bastard Queen all expressed fake concern for the lives of 16 workers lost but it was their fault they died.

Oh sure, BP and Bond Helicopters are to blame too - but they operate with the agreement and under the regulations set by the state.

The UK state passes no regulation, imposes no fine, which ever threatens the profits of the oil companies. That is the fault of the head of state, the Queen and her ministers of state - Prime Minister Brown and First Minister Salmond and their governments.

Do Scottish, British and other workers want to die for these bastards? I certainly don't.

You wouldn't catch me commuting to an oil rig via helicopters which drop out of the sky like a stone when they fail.

Oh helicopters can be made safer than that - if you are willing to pay. You don't often hear of "Marine One", the helicopter which carries the US President or the Queen's flight helicopter crashing with all lives lost, do you?

But then the heads of state can spend the money on the safest helicopters, maintained and piloted in the safest possible way. Not so in the oil industry.

When BP hands out the contracts for helicopter transport, do they choose the safest or the cheapest? They will SAY "safety is the priority" but we all know that profits are the priority so they will opt for the cheapest contracts they can get away with which save money at the expense of safety.

If the North Sea industry can't afford to fly helicopters safely then they should ferry the workers by ship.

Not forgetting the

Herald_of_Free_Enterprise

and the Titanic before that of course. So ships can be dangerous too, if you allow royalists any say in the way they are captained.

With a stupid head of state, refusing to sack stupid ministers, you must expect stupid people in charge to cause death and disasters regularly.

The only coherent solution is to have an intelligent head of state, a good president of a republic and a republican revolution to overthrow the monarchy and the UK is the right way to go. Workers could strike and demand a republican revolution to better their conditions of employment.

If instead Scots and Britons insist on keeping on working for these royal twits then "be prepared to die in avoidable accidents" would be my warning.

Wessexman · 04-03-09, 08:25 PM

God Save the Queen!

We tried regicidal and republican delusions before, it didn't take I'm afraid.

I am, and my father was before me, a violent Tory of the old school; --Walter Scott's school, that is to say, and Homer's. I name these two out of the numberless great Tory writers, because they were my own two masters. [...] From my own chosen masters, then, Scott and Homer, I learned the Toryism which my best after-thought has only served to confirm. That is to say, a most sincere love of kings, and dislike of everybody who attempted to disobey them.
John Ruskin

Peter Dow · 04-03-09, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Wessexman

God Save the Queen!

We tried regicidal and republican delusions before, it didn't take I'm afraid.

I am, and my father was before me, a violent Tory of the old school; --Walter Scott's school, that is to say, and Homer's. I name these two out of the numberless great Tory writers, because they were my own two masters. [...] From my own chosen masters, then, Scott and Homer, I learned the Toryism which my best after-thought has only served to confirm. That is to say, a most sincere love of kings, and dislike of everybody who attempted to disobey them.
John Ruskin

Well if you expect anyone to join your British usergroup here then you had better be on the side of the British people and NOT on the Queen's side.

It is a simple choice between Queen OR country? Here is some background information to help you to make an informed choice. If you are a Tory (or if you quote Tories and found your beliefs on Tory views or what I don't quite know because how can you be a Tory and a Wessex regionalist at the same time?) you have not yet been blessed with a proper education.

Wikipedia: Prince Christoph of Hesse
Wikipedia: Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom. Marriage
American Almanac: The Nazi Roots of the House of Windsor
Aftermath News: The Nazi relative that the Royals disowned
The Daily Express: PRINCE PHILIP AND THE NAZIS
The Royals and the Reich. The Princes von Hessen in Nazi Germany by Jonathan Petropoulos

Jonathan Petropoulos, in his book "Royals and the Reich" reviews the case that the Duke of Windsor was a traitor and an agent for Nazi Germany which was made by Martin Allen in his book "Hidden Agenda. How the Duke of Windsor Betrayed the Allies".

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Author Martin Allen goes much further than this, arguing in his controversial book, Hidden Agenda, that the duke spied for Hitler, especially in the critical phase in late-1939 and early-1940 prior to the Battle of France.
According to Allen, the duke made inspection tours of the French army's front line positions, including the Maginot line, and provided reports of troop deployments not only to the British (French-British co-operation not being what it should have been), but also to the Germans.
The link between the duke and the Nazis, according to Allen, was wealthy American industrialist Charles Bedaux (sometimes spelled Bedault), who was a close friend of the Windsors. Bedaux had loaned them his home, chateau Cande in France, for their wedding in June 1937, and he was almost certainly a Nazi intelligence asset; he knew Goring personally and had many German business contacts.
Martin Allen goes so far as to argue that the Duke of Windsor provided Bedaux with the crucial information about the French deployment, that this information, when passed on, induced Hitler to take the bold move and invade France through the poorly defended Ardennes forest, and that this is the primary explanation for the stunning Nazi victory in May-June 1940.
It is a devastating indictment: the Duke of Windsor was not only a traitor but the main reason for the German victory in the West and all that came with it (occupation, the Battle of Britain, and the persecution of Jews in these regions, among other developments).

Wessexman · 04-03-09, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter Dow

Well if you expect anyone to join your British usergroup here then you had better be on the side of the British people and NOT on the Queen's side.

The people are on the Queen's side. Republicanism is a tiny, insignificant movement.

Quote:

It is a simple choice between Queen OR country? Here is some background information to help you to make an informed choice. If you are a Tory (or if you quote Tories and found your beliefs on Tory views or what I don't quite know because how can you be a Tory and a Wessex regionalist at the same time?) you have not yet been blessed with a proper education.

And who is to give that to me? Karl Marx? Lenin?

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Wikipedia: Prince Christoph of Hesse
Wikipedia: Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom. Marriage
American Almanac: The Nazi Roots of the House of Windsor
Aftermath News: The Nazi relative that the Royals disowned
The Daily Express: PRINCE PHILIP AND THE NAZIS
The Royals and the Reich. The Princes von Hessen in Nazi Germany by Jonathan Petropoulos

Jonathan Petropoulos, in his book "Royals and the Reich" reviews the case that the Duke of Windsor was a traitor and an agent for Nazi Germany which was made by Martin Allen in his book "Hidden Agenda. How the Duke of Windsor Betrayed the Allies".

God Save the Queen!

Infinite Chaos · 04-05-09, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Dow

-- When BP hands out the contracts for helicopter transport, do they choose the safest or the cheapest? They will SAY "safety is the priority" but we all know that profits are the priority so they will opt for the cheapest contracts they can get away with which save money at the expense of safety.

If the North Sea industry can't afford to fly helicopters safely then they should ferry the workers by ship.

That is a business decision, so far I see no genuine reason to blame the royalty for this. Especially as the inquiry is only just beginning and the operation to get the bodies out has only tonight been completed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Dow

-- Not forgetting the "Herald of Free Enterprise" ferry disaster of 1987 wherein 193 passengers died and the Titanic before that of course. So ships can be dangerous too, if you allow royalists any say in the way they are captained.

The Herald of Free Enterprise was commissioned by Townsend Thorenson, a company in the private (meaning no royalty or government involved unless invited to the launch ceremony) sector.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Dow

-- The only coherent solution is to have an intelligent head of state, a good president of a republic and a republican revolution to overthrow the monarchy and the UK is the right way to go. Workers could strike and demand a republican revolution to better their conditions of employment.

Republicanism is a valid argument to have but not when you wrap it up the way you have here. Only by the most tenuous link can you blame the government for business decisions in the private sector and only with even more tenuous links can you blame the royalty for decisions made by the private sector.

All you have done is weaken any argument for turning the UK into a republic by trying to link royalty to a disaster at sea.

kaya'08 · 04-05-09, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Wessexman

God Save the Queen!

Apparently there is a no touch policy on that bitch. So if you feel tempted to go down to Buckingham palace to grope her you can forget it.

Infinite Chaos · 04-05-09, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kaya'08

-- that bitch--

Why the need for that?

Some of us swore allegiance when we chose to wear military uniform. I see no need for offensive remarks like that Kaya.

kaya'08 · 04-05-09, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos

Why the need for that?

Some of us swore allegiance when we chose to wear military uniform. I see no need for offensive remarks like that Kaya.

Sorry IC maybe that was a little too out of line:/
But until i swear my allegiance to her when i join the British army, ill stand by the fact i think her role in our society is pretty much pointless, and she thinks her role in our country is of significance when really Michelle Obama is in a higher position of authority then she is or ever will be. The Monarchy is just a prolonged dead British tradition. Maybe its time to scrap?

Infinite Chaos · 04-05-09, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kaya'08

Sorry IC maybe that was a little too out of line:/

You can be critical without being abusive kaya, you're a much better poster than you showed above.

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Originally Posted by kaya'08

But until i swear my allegiance to her when i join the British army

Don't join then, allegiance isn't something you can take off and change like underwear. If you have none then don't sign up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaya'08

i think her role in our society is pretty much pointless

The regent's role is not about being a political or presidential style leader - that is a mark of the historical battle between regent and parliament.

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Originally Posted by kaya'08

she thinks her role in our country is of significance when really Michelle Obama is in a higher position of authority then she is or ever will be.

Michelle Obama is the US President's wife, she's already left these shores. No President's wife has ever had any authority in the UK and never will.

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Originally Posted by kaya'08

The Monarchy is just a prolonged dead British tradition. Maybe its time to scrap?

As I said before, it is a debate that can and should be had - however the monarchy does have roles that we don't understand fully until they are gone. It's not for nothing that most countries that got rid of their monarchs have an envy of ours. I agree there are too many on our Royal List, that Camilla and Charles will be a low point but even in simple monetary terms they do much good business for us overseas.

bub · 04-05-09, 05:00 PM

Helicopter accident in the north sea, and we talk about nazis after 3 posts...

How funny

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