The clip the EU doesn't want you to see

dirtpoorchris · 08-03-08, 01:46 PM

The clip the EU doesn't want you to see

LiveLeak.com - The clip the EU doesn't want you to see

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The Hemicycle, European Parliament,
Strasbourg - 12.12.2007:

The President of the European Commission, the President of the European Council and the President of the European Parliament gather to sign the Charter of Fundamental Rights, which will replace the European Convention on Human Rights. The Charter forms part of the "Lisbon Treaty", recently known as the "reform treaty", or the redesigned Constitutional Treaty.

A number of Members of the European Parliament (MEP) rose in protest against the "Lisbon Treaty" (signed by the 27 Heads of State and Government on 13.12.2007).

The "Lisbon Treaty" establishes the same EU Constitution that was rejected by the French and Dutch referendums in 2005.

This violates the principle of unanimity, where all Member States must consent to each treaty.

As Italian interior minister, Giuliano Amato said at the London School of Economics last February, "The good thing about not calling it a constitution is that no one can ask for a referendum."

As a result, the French and Dutch votes were ignored and now ireland vote and five governments have cancelled a promised referendum (Czech Rep., Denmark, Poland, Portugal, UK).

The Future of Europe can be different than the centralised monolith which the EU Constitution creates. The 'single market' (the 'four freedoms of movement') does not need to be governed by an EU bureaucracy which plans the economy and regulates our lives.

EU romanticism must stop. The EU is not what it seems to be.

dirtpoorchris · 08-03-08, 01:59 PM

HOLY crap this guy is pissed.

LiveLeak.com - France?s Front National Mops the Floor with Sarkozy

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France’s Front National Mops the Floor with Sarkozy
Nicolas Sarkozy, President in Office of the European Council (Jul-Dec 2008) visits the European Parliament (Strasbourg) on 10 July 2008. He is taken on by Jean-marie Le Pen, leader and President of the Front National
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Credits:
- Hemicycle scenes: Audio Visual, European Parliament
-Translation: Franois Desouche - Fdesouche.com
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Note on the rejected EU Constitution and Lisbon Treaty:

The people of France and the Netherlands rejected the proposed EU constitution in the 2005 referendums. Since all 27 Member States are required to ratify, the Constitution was dead, but this took a long time to sink in. After this, other countries cancelled a promised referendum and the EU Constitution was re-written as an "amending treaty" or a "reform treaty" and named "Treaty of Lisbon".

On the basis of this deceit, they claimed that no referendums are necessary on the Lisbon Treaty. Ireland was constitutionally required to hold a referendum and on the 12 June 2008 the people of Ireland gave a resounding No to Lisbon. Yet this vote is not being respected and the rule of law is being ignored. The EU leaders agreed at the June 19-20 EU Summit that ratifications must go on. Moreover, 26 Member States are being denied a referendum.

The Lisbon Treaty establishes a new "European Union" with joint citizenship - an EU "federal" State that is technically and politically empowered to centralize more power in Brussels. The treaty also stipulates the militarisation of the Union in order to 'police the world' just like the US does today.

bub · 08-03-08, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris

The clip the EU doesn't want you to see

LiveLeak.com - The clip the EU doesn't want you to see

The problem is that 99% of the Europeans do not know what is in the "constitution", so when there was the French referendum, people voted against it because the government (which they disliked) wanted them to vote yes.

So, it was more a "sanction vote" against the French government than against the treaty.

bub · 08-03-08, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris

HOLY crap this guy is pissed.

LiveLeak.com - France?s Front National Mops the Floor with Sarkozy

lol Le Pen is very charismatic (that's why he got so many votes a few years ago) but it is not a good idea to quote him as an anti-EU argument, as he is from the anti-semite and xenophobic extreme right.

Maybe you should try to find out what Sarkozy has answered to this.