some questions for British liberals (or labor) - Page 3

Scucca · 07-08-08, 07:09 PM

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However I'm not going to blind myself into think that juts because Germany has fabulous healthcare that its universities are great because they're not.

Then you will be able to show with credible evidence that German labour is hindered by the quality of its tertiary education sector?

new coup for you · 07-08-08, 07:10 PM

It probably isn't, however I see higher education as a worthy pursuit on its own.

Scucca · 07-08-08, 07:14 PM

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It probably isn't, however I see higher education as a worthy pursuit on its own.

Sounds like you're interested in certification and those personal interests are distinct from real concerns such as the value added from the general education investment

new coup for you · 07-08-08, 07:14 PM

no, I'm interested in the genuine pursuit of knowledge within a structure conducive towards it and I think that requires a pretty high degree of elitism.

Scucca · 07-08-08, 07:21 PM

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no, I'm interested in the genuine pursuit of knowledge within a structure conducive towards it and I think that requires a pretty high degree of elitism.

The genuine pursuit of knowledge will maximise the human capital potential of the education system and therefore its economic worth. The UK and the US do not achieve anything that stands out

new coup for you · 07-08-08, 07:24 PM

see this is exactly the problem, European leftism sucks you into this state of mind where you can't possibly escape the doctrinaire vision of class.

Scucca · 07-08-08, 07:31 PM

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see this is exactly the problem, European leftism sucks you into this state of mind where you can't possibly escape the doctrinaire vision of class.

How is that a relevant reply to my comment? I've merely noted that the standard US/UK education comments aren't supported by wonders such as human capital investment

new coup for you · 07-08-08, 07:34 PM

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The genuine pursuit of knowledge will maximise the human capital potential of the education system and therefore its economic worth. The UK and the US do not achieve anything that stands out

the human capital potential, I mean are you serious? I've already admitted that I generally bow to the supremacy of class, but that kind of empty bull**** Marxist rhetoric is ludicrous. This isn't East Germany. An architect that designs a building that can house more workers at a lower price isn't better then an architect that can design an actually attractive building. He may be more useful but that's entirely different. The entire Western world has admitted that maybe focusing exclusively on materialism is a tad monstrously dehumanizing.

Scucca · 07-08-08, 07:41 PM

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the human capital potential, I mean are you serious? I've already admitted that I generally bow to the supremacy of class, but that kind of empty bull**** Marxist rhetoric is ludicrous.

The inanity of the right wing American should not be something to be celebrated! Human capital is a term that became popular from the Chicago school of economics. Referring to Marxist rhetoric is therefore really rather ropey!

new coup for you · 07-08-08, 07:43 PM

I'm right wing? Knock knock, it's post-modernism, come to make a belated visit to your intellectual repertoire.

This isn't the 30s anymore the Utopian ideal has been thoroughly discredited.