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Old 04-15-08, 03:34 AM   #71 (permalink)
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Your inability to grasp the economics is not interesting. We see the nature of comparative advantage with trade patterns, where apparently uncompetitive countries still benefit from trade.
I have told you time and time again, its a theory, hence not directly appliable in the real world without huge changes. I have asked you for any evidence that the comparative advantage theory has been not only used but worked in the real world, and you have yet to provide any proof.

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More tiresome nonsense. You have not ensured ceteris paribus. Can you find ONE economic study that isolates the EEC effect?

Dont bother answering, I know you cant.
Thats not what you asked for as far as I see in all your babbling. And yes I dont want to waste my time trying to look for such a study, when anyone can see that the UK economy is far far better off than it was in 1973.


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Can we have our net contribution back?
Sure, if you pay the standard toll for all the goods exported to Europe since 1973, and other duties and taxes that are common place between countries.

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I'm happy for the freedom of movement to be harmed. Its through trade that we maximise welfare and that only needs a free trade area. We'd also be doing multilateralism the power of good as we reject the economic costs generated by regionalism
You have made it clear that you dont like "outsiders".
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Old 04-15-08, 10:12 AM   #72 (permalink)
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I have told you time and time again, its a theory, hence not directly appliable in the real world without huge changes.
And I’ve told you how ignorant that comment is. First, comparative advantage is required to understand why trade is not a zero sum game. Second, the only issue is the extent that 'new trade theory' is required: i.e. comparative advantage does not provide an understanding of intra-industry trade. We also have to refer to economies of scale and differentiated products to understand the overall trade patterns between developed countries. However, that is relevant to manufacturing.

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I have asked you for any evidence that the comparative advantage theory has been not only used but worked in the real world, and you have yet to provide any proof.
Try David and Weinstein (2001, An Account of Global Factor Trade, American Economic Review, Vol 91, pp 1423-1454). This provides a test of the predictions of the Heckscher-Ohlin model of the determinants of comparative advantage. It finds that the model is consistent with the data, predicting 90% of the pattern of trade.

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And yes I dont want to waste my time trying to look for such a study, when anyone can see that the UK economy is far far better off than it was in 1973.
You cannot just assume ceteris paribus. You are therefore talking tosh and making dreadfully simple spurious conclusion. A rather strange tactic that I do not understand. I prefer to test hypothesis and follow good research practice.

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You have made it clear that you dont like "outsiders".
A dreary attempt. I’ve merely referred to the economic gains for both home and foreign populations from removing EU distortions. I’ve crafted an argument totally free of negative nationalism. I’ve also referred to the importance of multilateralism and celebrated internationalism. Your insular “Old Europe” backward thinking has no place in a dynamic economic world.
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I think we all know whats going on here. . I'm not being racist but Muslims are interfering in our lives again. Every British working man must bring back hanging. This sounds totally crazy, but it is sadly, probably true.
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The Ukraine is an interesting EU candidate.
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I think the EU is a good thing overall it has problems though the CAP needs to be cut down alot.Apart from that and other smaller problems i think we will all be better off in the long term.Also its made us less likely to go to war with on another.
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i think we will all be better off in the long term.
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