The EU is destabliziing Europe

Chagos said:

That Germany's GDP would be higher than the French GDP by nearly a third of the latter, when the population is only higher by around 12 pct, also takes care (while we're putting presented bovine manure where it belongs) of the asinine claim that the French work smarter.

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But Germany has fewer children and adults retire later. And they have less Muslims.

Yeah, the German car industry is very much B2B and very much "niche" to boot. As is its chemical industry (with nearly double the turnover of the French one in 2012), as is its industry of machinery, industrial and other, as is its.......................

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But the automobile sector employs less than one million people overall. The core of the German industry is the Mittelstand: the set of their niche industries, mostly B2B SME. (reach for the article from Google search if the WSJ asks you to subscribe)

Chagos said:

That (the bolded) actually being the point I was making.

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Well, until something better comes up, then "sampling" quarterly output and finagling the numbers is the sole way to keep track of GDP.

It has served so far on the economic gross-level, which is why it is called the GDP.

In micro-economics, however, such sampling works only in rarity. I keep hoping that micro-economics can expand upwards and outwards but so far have been disappointed with the results.

Interesting results but mostly of specific and not major consequence to national economics.

Auvergnat said:

But Germany has fewer children and adults retire later. And they have less Muslims.

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Here we go again with the Muslims. You're simply fascinated by them or envious that there's no oil below your property?

Thank God Muslims account for only about 2% of the European population, at last count long before this "invasion".

PS: From WikiP (here):

According to a national census conducted in 2011, 1.9% of Germany's population (around 1.5m people) declared themselves as Muslim.

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They were, are and remain a miniscule part of the population throughout Europe, but for the most part in France (where they are 11%). America's black and coloured population is estimated at 12.2%.

Yikes! Panic-ville in the USofA! Quick, every go north!!!! :lamo

Lafayette said:

Thank God Muslims account for only about 2% of the European population, at last count long before this "invasion".

PS: From WikiP (here):

They were, are and remain a miniscule part of the population throughout Europe, but for the most part in France (where they are 11%). America's black and coloured population is estimated at 12.2%.

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I do not give a damn about the European population and as for France Paris and other big cities will be Muslim far before the end of this century if we do nothing. They already dominate so many places around Paris and Marseilles.

If we let Paris become Muslim, it will become far worse than Detroit. Muslims are not Afro-Americans, Muslims adhere to the most hateful and retrograde significant ideology there is today. Islam is the exact opposite of French culture and values.

Moreover demographic growth is exponential by nature (the increase is proportional to the current population), and Islam already went from 1% to 8% in a mere few decades (+700%).


I refuse to see my country islamize (partially or completely). Islam is no better than Nazism, Muhammad's example is no better than Hitler's, and 1% would be too much already.

Auvergnat said:

But Germany has fewer children and adults retire later. And they have less Muslims.

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........and this is relevant to what's been discussed how?

But the automobile sector employs less than one million people overall. The core of the German industry is the Mittelstand: the set of their niche industries, mostly B2B SME. (reach for the article from Google search if the WSJ asks you to subscribe)

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I don't need to, having had dealings with both German BIG industry and smaller companies of the Mittelstand (medium size level).

For those interested, "Mittelstand" companies are defined in Germany by differing criteria, used by just as different institutions. A rule of thumb (KfW banking group) would be that a company's yearly turnover does not surpass € 500 million and 500 employees.

What that has to do with the claim of Germany comprising (primarily, it is inferred) of B2Bs, let alone serving "niches" is anyone's guess.

FWIW (see link below ----> Deutschland---------> 2nd paragraph) the Mittelstand accounted for around 35.5 pct of the overall German turnover in 2013 but showed to hold nearly 60 pct of all employees (3rd paragraph) and contributing 18 pct to all exports (5th paragraph).

IfM Bonn: Mittelstand im Überblick

Thus it may be the core of German industry ("cores" never to be underestimated or -valued) but hardly constitutes the primary composition of same.

What the number of employees in a highly automated industry such as the car sector has to do with "economic" impact and contribution to the overall GDP is as nebulous as everything else presented.

Auvergnat said:

[The EU is an attack against national identities.

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It's an attack on inter-national wars, of which obsession about "national identity" can easily be a contributing factor.

Without the EU we would have been fine.

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Just as you were for 500 years. Just fine. LOL.

(The EU is) a new Reich.

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(facepalm) Yeah, and that molehill over there is a mountain.