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Europe at risk of collapse; France, Germany must lead - French PM

Putting the debate in its proper prospective. From here: Mapping Police Violence



And,
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Moreover,
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Anyone can start a website. You've linked me to "mappingpolice.org".

Who runs this site?
Samuel Singyanwe-
Black Activist. Data Scientist & Policy Analyst. Stanford '12. WeTheProtesters. Campaign Zero.
https://mobile.twitter.com/samswey

Johnetta Elzie-
Black protestor.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Nettaaaaaaaa

Deray McKesson, black radical, said that blacks who attack police officers are entitled to do so. Obama had him over to the White House. How nice.
https://mobile.twitter.com/deray

Brittany Packnett-
Black activist.
https://mobile.twitter.com/MsPackyetti

Yeah, that's a real diverse bunch there. 4 BLM activists who pretend that the black communities only problem is racist police officers.

Meanwhile, you can't get around the fact that:
92% of black homicides are committed by black non-police officers. Black people who are murdered have a 9/10 chance that their killer is not a white police officer.
 
Yeah, that's a real diverse bunch there. 4 BLM activists who pretend that the black communities only problem is racist police officers.

Ok, Whitey - you go to any one of the many black ghettos and start shouting the above in the streets.

Brave little fella that you are on a blog behind a pseudo ...
 
Ok, Whitey - you go to any one of the many black ghettos and start shouting the above in the streets.

Brave little fella that you are on a blog behind a pseudo ...

I've been to black ghettos. I was raised in the frigging barrio with Latino gang members as my neighbors. What point are you proving here? That you believe everything BLM says because they're black? You'd get rolled in the hood boss.
 
I've been to black ghettos. I was raised in the frigging barrio with Latino gang members as my neighbors. What point are you proving here? That you believe everything BLM says because they're black? You'd get rolled in the hood boss.

Nope, I am as good an observer as you, and perhaps better.

Because you are blinded by you own hatred for the poor and coloured - or any diversity whatsoever from your own particular "norm".

I'm done with you ...
 
"Today Americans would be outraged if UN troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful. This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government."
Henry Kissinger speaking at the annual Bilderberger meeting, May 21, 1992

This is intriguing. I always thought that these meetings were secret (hence their controversial nature) where are you getting this from exactly?
 
This is intriguing. I always thought that these meetings were secret (hence their controversial nature) where are you getting this from exactly?

Are you seriously asking?
 
This is intriguing. I always thought that these meetings were secret (hence their controversial nature) where are you getting this from exactly?

thirdworldtraveler.com
 
The darkest corners of Facebook, where the truth is shared by those who are willing to believe it.
In the darkest corners of facebook the blind lead the lame and the mute teach language skills to the deaf.

All of them believing they've a good thing going.:mrgreen:
 
A world government? What a dumb idea.
So you have a world government, who holds it in check? Crickets.
All eggs in one basket.
Ripe for rebellion due to geography.
etc.
 
In the darkest corners of facebook the blind lead the lame and the mute teach language skills to the deaf.

All of them believing they've a good thing going.:mrgreen:

It's where Trump won the election!
 
Putting the debate in its proper prospective. From here: Mapping Police Violence
And,
[IMG ]https://static1.squarespace.com/static/54ecf211e4b0ed744420c5b6/t/57f5266ae58c62fa2fd474aa/1475683952958/PoliceKillingsTrendline.png?format=1500w[/IMG]

Moreover,
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/54ecf211e4b0ed744420c5b6/t/57f51bffe58c62fa2fd3e973/1475681294088/NotaboutCrime.png?format=1500w[/IMG ][/QUOTE]It has certainly been disturbing/outrageous to see what amounts to Executions of some Blacks in encounters with police.
But it has to be noted how Incredibly more Violent that part of society is:

1. [b]Race and crime in the United States - Wikipedia[/b]
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States#Homicide[/url]
[.....]
[indent][b]Homicide[/b]
According to the US Department of Justice, [b]blacks accounted for 52.5% of homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008,[/b] with whites 45.3% and "Other" 2.2%. [b]The offending rate for Blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites[/b] (per 100,000), and the victim rate 6 times higher (per 100,000). Most murders were intraracial, with 84% of white homicide victims murdered by whites, [b]and 93% of black victims murdered by blacks.[/b][33][34][35]
[.....]
[b]Robbery[/b]
According to the National Crime Victimization Survey in 2002, [b]the black arrest rate for robbery was 8.55 times Higher than whites,[/b] and blacks were 16 times more likely to be incarcerated for robbery than non-Hispanic whites. [b]Robberies with White victims and Black offenders were more than 12 Times more common than the reverse.[/b][38][39][/indent]


2. 89% of all Crime in NYC Nonwhite
March 4, 2016 - by A.N. Wyatte
[url=http://newobserveronline.com/89-crime-nyc-nonwhite/]89% of all Crime in NYC Nonwhite - The New Observer[/url]

[indent]Nonwhites commit 89% of all crime in New York City, [b]including [u]97.7% of all shootings[/u], 96% of all robberies, 94.2% of all Murders, 94.9% of all Juvenile Felony and Misdemeanor crimes, and 90.6% of all rapes.[/b]

These figures are contained in the New York City Police Department’s latest [i]“Crime and Enforcement Activity in New York City”[/i] report, which covers the dates January 1 to December 31, 2015. It can be found on the New York Government website here (PDF). [url=http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/analysis_and_planning/crime_and_enforcement_activity.shtml]NYPD Report - Crime and Enforcement Activity in New York City[/url]

The report is almost Unique in present-day America because it Openly presents statistics on race and crime compiled from the New York City Police Department’s records management system—statistics that are most often Suppressed by other police departments.

In addition, the NYPD breaks down the racial categories correctly, listing “Hispanic” separately instead of grouping it together with “white,” which is what most of the US government does (thereby artificially inflating the “white” crime levels).[/indent]


3. 'Color of Crime' update/summary/excerpts
[url=http://www.amren.com/the-color-of-crime/]The Color of Crime | American Renaissance[/url]

[indent]Crime rates
There are dramatic race differences in crime rates. [u]Asians have the Lowest rates[/u], followed by whites, and then Hispanics. Blacks have notably high crime rates. This pattern holds true for virtually all crime categories and for virtually all age groups. In 2013, a black was Six times more likely than a non-black to commit murder, and 12 times more likely to murder someone of another race than to be murdered by someone of another race.
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Urban centers
In 2014 in New York City, a black was 31 times more likely than a white to be arrested for Murder, and a Hispanic was 12.4 times more likely. [u]For the crime of “shooting[/u]”—defined as firing a Bullet that hits someone—a black was 98.4 times more likely than a white to be arrested, and a Hispanic was 23.6 times more likely.

[b]If New York City were all white, the Murder rate would drop by 91%, the robbery rate by 81%, and the Shootings rate by 97%.

In an all-white Chicago, Murder would decline 90%, rape by 81%, and robbery by 90%.[/b]
.....[/indent]

When people want to have an "open discussion" on Race and Crime, they only want to talk about 'disproportionate stops' or longer drug sentences, never the Elephant in the Room: the staggering rate, and cost to society of Minority (2) crime. Without those bulges, which are blamed on guns, this country's violent crime resembles that of Europe.
 
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It has certainly been disturbing/outrageous to see what amounts to Executions of some Blacks in encounters with police. But it has to be noted how Incredibly more Violent that part of society is:

Typically, one of the prime motivators of crime has been poverty, where keeping up with the Joneses is obtained illegally by some criminally. And, as regards Income (which allows us to keep up with the Joneses), that comparative breakdown is shown here:
Income - Real Household Income, History.jpg

Why blacks cannot earn better salaries is worth considering. I maintain that whereas Asians are brought up to believe in studies as a way to better one's life, that this same motivation does not seem to exist within the black community.
 
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Typically, one of the prime motivators of crime has been poverty, where keeping up with the Joneses is obtained illegally by some criminally. And, as regards Income (which allows us to keep up with the Joneses), that comparative breakdown is shown here:
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Although poverty is a factor, it does NOT account for the huge difference in Racial Crime rates.

I'd say peoples make/have their cultures because of cognitive/behavioral attributes they independently evolved/now innately possess.
https://www.google.com/search?q=10,...me.0.69i59.11207j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Right about the Asians. They have a custom that seems to value human life more than ours. Moreover, when one looks at the average annual income by racial group in the US, they are the highest whilst the black race is the lowest. I maintain thusly that poverty breeds crime.

There is another reason for the very high crime-death rates, and it is the very easy ability to have a gun. Whyzat?

Because we live in a deadly part of the world: Homicide rates by region


Some whakos think that "freedom" spits from the barrel of a gun. Go figure - the reasons underlying Indiscriminate Violence that reigns across North America has multiple causes. I suggest for the US "An Experiment for Humane Living" - we ban all guns except long-rifles for hunting, and see what happens to the Homicide Rate in the US over a period of ten years. Then we hold a national referendum on the subject.

I think I know the results beforehand:
*This from a international study regarding firearm deaths here: Violent Death Rates: The US Compared with Other High-income OECD Countries, 2010.
RESULTS:
US homicide rates were 7.0 times higher than in other high-income countries, driven by a gun homicide rate that was 25.2 times higher. For 15- to 24-year-olds, the gun homicide rate in the United States was 49.0 times higher. Firearm-related suicide rates were 8.0 times higher in the United States, but the overall suicide rates were average. Unintentional firearm deaths were 6.2 times higher in the United States. The overall firearm death rate in the United States from all causes was 10.0 times higher. Ninety percent of women, 91% of children aged 0 to 14 years, 92% of youth aged 15 to 24 years, and 82% of all people killed by firearms were from the United States.
CONCLUSIONS:
The United States has an enormous firearm problem compared with other high-income countries, with higher rates of homicide and firearm-related suicide. Compared with 2003 estimates, the US firearm death rate remains unchanged while firearm death rates in other countries decreased. Thus, the already high relative rates of firearm homicide, firearm suicide, and unintentional firearm death in the United States compared with other high-income countries increased between 2003 and 2010.

*And from an EU study here, excerpt:
It is sometimes argued that, when no firearm is available, another instrument will be used for the suicide or
the homicide (‘substitution’). This would mean that in countries where firearm possession rates are lower,
there are more homicides and suicides using instruments other than firearms. However, this turns out not to
be the case
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Taking into consideration all figures, no relationship can be established between the number of firearms and
the total number of homicides and suicides: where there are more firearms, the total number of homicides and suicides is not consistently higher or lower, and vice versa. This is not surprising:
1) the numbers of homicides and suicides committed using a firearm only represent a part of the total number of homicides and suicides (20% and 9%, respectively), which renders a possible statistical effect on the total number of violent deaths difficult to detect within the larger picture; and
2) a lot of factors have an influence on the extent to which homicides and suicides take place in a country: the economic situation, mental healthcare, the law enforcement, government campaigns, gun laws, etc.

There is evidently still some controversy regarding the subject, and yet, I prefer to live in the EU where gun-laws are far more strict than in the US if only to salve my own conscience ...
 
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Right about the Asians. They have a custom that seems to value human life more than ours.

How so? China recently had government mandated abortion, as well as organ harvesting of criminals. You should specify who you're referring to as 'Asian' comprises billions of people.

Moreover, when one looks at the average annual income by racial group in the US, they are the highest whilst the black race is the lowest. I maintain thusly that poverty breeds crime.

You'd of course be wrong. Black Americans are rich compared with black Africans. Yet black Americans lead the country in crime rates.

There is another reason for the very high crime-death rates, and it is the very easy ability to have a gun.

Criminals shouldn't have guns. They also shouldn't be used as a reason to keep law abiding citizens from owning guns if they want to.

Some whakos think that "freedom" spits from the barrel of a gun. Go figure - the reasons underlying Indiscriminate Violence that reigns across North America has multiple causes. I suggest for the US "An Experiment for Humane Living" - we ban all guns except long-rifles for hunting, and see what happens to the Homicide Rate in the US over a period of ten years. Then we hold a national referendum on the subject.

So you'd like to create an even larger black market than what currently exists? Not very wise in my estimation.


There is evidently still some controversy regarding the subject, and yet, I prefer to live in the EU where gun-laws are far more strict than in the US if only to salve my own conscience ...

Speaking of black markets:
In France, the Paris-based National Observatory for Delinquency estimates that the number of illegal firearms has been increasing in double digits for years.

Jail terms and fines for illegally possessing a weapon were increased in 2012, after gunman Mohamed Merah shot dead seven people in a killing spree in France. It is not known how stringently the crackdown was enforced.

"The French black market for weapons has been inundated with eastern European war artillery and arms," Philippe Capon, the head of UNSA Police union told Bloomberg in January. "They are everywhere in France." AK-47s sell for €1,000-€1,500 (£700-£1,060) on the black market, he said.

As long as China and eastern Europe have guns to sell, prohibition will not completely end gun violence. Recent elections should tell you that you're on the fringe as far as American political sentiment goes.
 
In France, the Paris-based National Observatory for Delinquency estimates that the number of illegal firearms has been increasing in double digits for years.

Jail terms and fines for illegally possessing a weapon were increased in 2012, after gunman Mohamed Merah shot dead seven people in a killing spree in France. It is not known how stringently the crackdown was enforced.

"The French black market for weapons has been inundated with eastern European war artillery and arms," Philippe Capon, the head of UNSA Police union told Bloomberg in January. "They are everywhere in France." AK-47s sell for €1,000-€1,500 (£700-£1,060) on the black market, he said.
Yet another wonderful achievement of the European market. Opening our borders with Eastern European countries riddled with criminality and Russian mafias was such a great idea. It also resulted in an explosion of human traffics, by at least one order of magnitude.
 
How so? China recently had government mandated abortion, as well as organ harvesting of criminals. You should specify who you're referring to as 'Asian' comprises billions of people.



You'd of course be wrong. Black Americans are rich compared with black Africans. Yet black Americans lead the country in crime rates.



Criminals shouldn't have guns. They also shouldn't be used as a reason to keep law abiding citizens from owning guns if they want to.



So you'd like to create an even larger black market than what currently exists? Not very wise in my estimation.




Speaking of black markets:


As long as China and eastern Europe have guns to sell, prohibition will not completely end gun violence. Recent elections should tell you that you're on the fringe as far as American political sentiment goes.

Blah, blah, blah.

Pathetic ...
 
Right about the Asians. They have a custom that seems to value human life more than ours. Moreover, when one looks at the average annual income by racial group in the US, they are the highest whilst the black race is the lowest. I maintain thusly that poverty breeds crime.
Again, you left out the WHY.
I'll make it easier.
NE Asians have the Highest Average IQs and the lowest Testosterone (and/or receptors for such). Blacks at the other end of the spectrum on Both. 'Whites'/Euros in between on both.


Lafayette said:
There is another reason for the very high crime-death rates, and it is the very easy ability to have a gun. Whyzat?
Because we live in a deadly part of the world: Homicide rates by region
Africans/Caribbeans have have easy accessibility to Guns?

I'll give you another more enlightening look at 'Regions.'

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Note Africans and Northern South Americans/Hispanics/Afro-Caribbeans have exponentially the highest Murder rates, but not nearly the access to guns that we have in America.
In fact, without OUR populations of those peoples and their wildly higher Violent crime rates, as I outlined on the last page, we'd have about the same Homicide/Violent crime rates as Western Europe! (Light Green)

So Crime is Not about availability of guns as much as Who has them.
ie, Black Homicide rates are 5-8x higher BOTH in America and in Africa.
As I elaborated on the last page: NYC and Chicago without their two minorities who commit 90-95% of Murders and other gun crime, would be about as violent as Western Europe.
Your studies on OMIT that that Crucial un-PC fact.
 
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Again, you left out the WHY.[/B]

Why doesn't matter, the stats do. We are debating national homicide rates, and not necessarily which race commits them.

The stats, by region (Source, FBI), Murder rates per 100K of population:
REGION 2015
South 5.9
Midwest 5.0
West 4.2
Northeast 3.5
NATIONAL RATE 4.9

The homicide rates are NOT concentrated in just two cities, neither by blacks alone.

I'll give you another more enlightening look at 'Regions.'

My look at homicide rates internationally: Crime > Violent crime > Murder rate: Countries Compared (Source: United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime)

The US is 14th on a list of 200 countries.

No gold medal, nor silver, nor copper ...
 
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Typically, one of the prime motivators of crime has been poverty, where keeping up with the Joneses is obtained illegally by some criminally.
Then how do you explain this?
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Within the same lowest income decile in the same community, black people exhibit a 290 times higher homicide rate than white people. And it is still four times higher within the top income decile. Moreover white people exhibit no significant correlation between homicide rate and income, while it is extremely pronounced among black people.

Now you can imagine all sort of explanations. Maybe things would have been different in those Afro-Americans had grown into an Afro-American country, or if they had never experienced racism and discrimination. But there is no data to confirm or infirm this idea to my knowledge. Moreover they will always be a minority and discrimination and racism will never disappear - they are actually getting stronger since reciprocal self-segregation is on the rise in the USA.

So can we finally admit the failure of multiculturalism and multiethnicity, and discourage its reproduction in other countries? Or do you still want to pursue your large-scale social experiments and wreck more countries?
 
Nope, I am as good an observer as you, and perhaps better.

Because you are blinded by you own hatred for the poor and coloured - or any diversity whatsoever from your own particular "norm".

I'm done with you ...

The paternalism and subtle racism of this reply is the reason a 5000-year old civilization, that once looked up to everything French for over a century, now considers French cities **** holes, foreign French businesses persona-non-grata, and justifies massive property and winery purchases in France to protect themselves from currency devaluation as "protecting France from the Mohammedan French".
 
The paternalism and subtle racism of this reply is the reason a 5000-year old civilization, that once looked up to everything French for over a century, now considers French cities **** holes, foreign French businesses persona-non-grata, and justifies massive property and winery purchases in France to protect themselves from currency devaluation as "protecting France from the Mohammedan French".

BS of the purest sarcastic fabrication.

Bravo for "zero intellectual-content" in a post ... !
 
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