Putting the debate in its proper prospective. From here:
Mapping Police Violence
And,
[IMG ]https://static1.squarespace.com/static/54ecf211e4b0ed744420c5b6/t/57f5266ae58c62fa2fd474aa/1475683952958/PoliceKillingsTrendline.png?format=1500w[/IMG]
Moreover,
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/54ecf211e4b0ed744420c5b6/t/57f51bffe58c62fa2fd3e973/1475681294088/NotaboutCrime.png?format=1500w[/IMG ][/QUOTE]It has certainly been disturbing/outrageous to see what amounts to Executions of some Blacks in encounters with police.
But it has to be noted how Incredibly more Violent that part of society is:
1. [b]Race and crime in the United States - Wikipedia[/b]
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States#Homicide[/url]
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[indent][b]Homicide[/b]
According to the US Department of Justice, [b]blacks accounted for 52.5% of homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008,[/b] with whites 45.3% and "Other" 2.2%. [b]The offending rate for Blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites[/b] (per 100,000), and the victim rate 6 times higher (per 100,000). Most murders were intraracial, with 84% of white homicide victims murdered by whites, [b]and 93% of black victims murdered by blacks.[/b][33][34][35]
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[b]Robbery[/b]
According to the National Crime Victimization Survey in 2002, [b]the black arrest rate for robbery was 8.55 times Higher than whites,[/b] and blacks were 16 times more likely to be incarcerated for robbery than non-Hispanic whites. [b]Robberies with White victims and Black offenders were more than 12 Times more common than the reverse.[/b][38][39][/indent]
2. 89% of all Crime in NYC Nonwhite
March 4, 2016 - by A.N. Wyatte
[url=http://newobserveronline.com/89-crime-nyc-nonwhite/]89% of all Crime in NYC Nonwhite - The New Observer[/url]
[indent]Nonwhites commit 89% of all crime in New York City, [b]including [u]97.7% of all shootings[/u], 96% of all robberies, 94.2% of all Murders, 94.9% of all Juvenile Felony and Misdemeanor crimes, and 90.6% of all rapes.[/b]
These figures are contained in the New York City Police Department’s latest [i]“Crime and Enforcement Activity in New York City”[/i] report, which covers the dates January 1 to December 31, 2015. It can be found on the New York Government website here (PDF). [url=http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/analysis_and_planning/crime_and_enforcement_activity.shtml]NYPD Report - Crime and Enforcement Activity in New York City[/url]
The report is almost Unique in present-day America because it Openly presents statistics on race and crime compiled from the New York City Police Department’s records management system—statistics that are most often Suppressed by other police departments.
In addition, the NYPD breaks down the racial categories correctly, listing “Hispanic” separately instead of grouping it together with “white,” which is what most of the US government does (thereby artificially inflating the “white” crime levels).[/indent]
3. 'Color of Crime' update/summary/excerpts
[url=http://www.amren.com/the-color-of-crime/]The Color of Crime | American Renaissance[/url]
[indent]Crime rates
There are dramatic race differences in crime rates. [u]Asians have the Lowest rates[/u], followed by whites, and then Hispanics. Blacks have notably high crime rates. This pattern holds true for virtually all crime categories and for virtually all age groups. In 2013, a black was Six times more likely than a non-black to commit murder, and 12 times more likely to murder someone of another race than to be murdered by someone of another race.
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Urban centers
In 2014 in New York City, a black was 31 times more likely than a white to be arrested for Murder, and a Hispanic was 12.4 times more likely. [u]For the crime of “shooting[/u]”—defined as firing a Bullet that hits someone—a black was 98.4 times more likely than a white to be arrested, and a Hispanic was 23.6 times more likely.
[b]If New York City were all white, the Murder rate would drop by 91%, the robbery rate by 81%, and the Shootings rate by 97%.
In an all-white Chicago, Murder would decline 90%, rape by 81%, and robbery by 90%.[/b]
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When people want to have an "open discussion" on Race and Crime, they only want to talk about 'disproportionate stops' or longer drug sentences, never the Elephant in the Room: the staggering rate, and cost to society of Minority (2) crime. Without those bulges, which are blamed on guns, this country's violent crime resembles that of Europe.