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Donald Trump’s Election Leaves Angela Merkel as the Liberal West’s Last Defender

Because we are suicidal after the ww2 and occupation trauma, and victims of our naive ideologies.

But our mental health may have started slowly improving during the recent years, and a new drug called ISIS has accelerated the recovery. I prefer to be cautious but we will see in the future how it really turns out.

I wish you the very best on your way to a white and peaceful France again.
 
Rather than trying to seize control of women's bellies, would not it be better to question why there are so few children?

Here are a few problems with Germany:
* Very few childcare options.
* Ostracism against mothers who have a job (nicknamed "raven mothers") and against female employees who have babies. Hence why women prefer to not make babies since they do not want to be unemployed, despised, lonely and bored at home.
* Many men want no children at all and do not want to educate them.

I note that you only blame women, not men.

In the last 20 years, German women had 2.5 million abortions. That's 2.5 million Germans who were not added to the head count.

This and what you listed above is all self-inflicted. So, saying that "Germany is dying" is a gross misrepresentation.

They are "dying" because they want to "die". We call it "suicide".

Remove abortions, provide welfare only for intact families, and give tax incentives to have kids, and Germany will not be "dying".
 
Sez you. Next.

Which brings me to reason #2 for the West's social ills; apathy. Those who express endless sympathy for the plight of, say, Syrian refugees, also tend to not care about their kinsmen who become addicted to heroin that was grown in the ME, even though the heroin addict probably grew up impoverished, just like the Syrian refugees.

with number of abortions decreasing in Germany, you don't have much of a point in that context.

Next.

Great, then maybe we can be friends now since we finally have something in common :mrgreen:
 
In the last 20 years, German women had 2.5 million abortions. That's 2.5 million Germans who were not added to the head count.
Considering that the ratio of abortions to births barely surpassed 18 pct in the years 2001- 2005, was below that before and after and did not reach 14 pct in 2014, Germany should be suffering the consequences of a population explosion then.

That quite apart from the cited figure not being correct anyway.
This and what you listed above is all self-inflicted. So, saying that "Germany is dying" is a gross misrepresentation.
I'll agree that the statement is a misrepresentation but it is that for reasons clearly beyond your grasp.
They are "dying" because they want to "die". We call it "suicide".
No idea how you represent "we" and who those "we" are, but you can call it whatever you like, it still remains rubbish.

Remove abortions, provide welfare only for intact families, and give tax incentives to have kids, and Germany will not be "dying".
Germany provides tax incentives (besides welfare) even for families that by your book wouldn't even count as intact.
 
Which brings me to reason #2 for the West's social ills; apathy. Those who express endless sympathy for the plight of, say, Syrian refugees, also tend to not care about their kinsmen who become addicted to heroin that was grown in the ME, even though the heroin addict probably grew up impoverished, just like the Syrian refugees.
................and again you expect this unsubstantiated opinion piece to be taken as fact on your word alone? Don't bother replying, I know you have nothing.
Great, then maybe we can be friends now since we finally have something in common
We have absolutely nothing in common.
 
................and again you expect this unsubstantiated opinion piece to be taken as fact on your word alone? Don't bother replying, I know you have nothing.

We pass unfortunate people in the street everyday, and many will step over the homeless guy or even laugh at him, and then turn around and proclaim themselves to be humanitarians for supporting migrants who they'll never even see face to face.


We have absolutely nothing in common.

True. I favor preventing the need of memorials like Je Suis Charlie, as I think they are unnecessary.
 
We pass unfortunate people in the street everyday, and many will step over the homeless guy or even laugh at him, and then turn around and proclaim themselves to be humanitarians for supporting migrants who they'll never even see face to face.
Ah, you've looked in the mirror?
True. I favor preventing the need of memorials like Je Suis Charlie, as I think they are unnecessary.
Let's face it, you don't really care much about Hebdo, it's more about letting off unsubstantiated rants in a forum where you are clearly out of your depth with any of its purposes. Over matters that you appear just as clearly overtaxed with on account of knowing little to nothing about them.

As much as you are with sticking to your own topic, seeing how your OP here (and elsewhere) is just an opener for you to pursue an agenda that you already show as having nothing to do with Germany or Merkel or whatever else in Europe.

You got anything on facts and figures (even where only reflecting current German mood) presented in post #6 ?

Yeah, didn't think so either.
 
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I wish you the very best on your way to a white and peaceful France again.
In France the debate is not about white people versus brown or black one. It is about the French civilization versus Islam, about the 21th century versus the 7th one.

We have few black people (2%), so things go rather well between us because they accept they will always be a tiny minority, and black activism is pretty rare. Moreover they have diverse histories, ranging from recent immigration to old families from the islands, we have no segregation past and slavery only took place on the islands. Of course, just like any outgroup, I deem desirable to limit immigration at some point (I would suggest 3% of the population per outgroup, 10% in total). But so far this poses no problem.

Our problem really is with Islam and Arabic cultures. They amount to 8% (four times more than in the USA), Islam is radicalizing and strengthening as an identity and a religion, and cohabitation has been worse every year for the past two or three decades.
 
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In France the debate is not about white people versus brown or black one. It is about the French civilization versus Islam, about the 21th century versus the 7th one.

We have few black people (2%), so things go rather well between us because they accept they will always be a tiny minority, and black activism is pretty rare. Moreover they have diverse histories, ranging from recent immigration to old families from the islands, we have no segregation past and slavery only took place on the islands. Of course, just like any outgroup, I deem desirable to limit immigration at some point (I would suggest 3% of the population per outgroup, 10% in total). But so far this poses no problem.

Our problem really is with Islam and Arabic cultures. They amount to 8% (four times more than in the USA), Islam is radicalizing and strengthening as an identity and a religion, and cohabitation has been worse every year for the past two or three decades.

And since they multiply at the rate you cannot match you are screwed. France should have thought about the long term consequences before allowing this cancer in.
 
Ah, you've looked in the mirror?

I've lived around several migrant families, some that were so new, they had the clothes on their backs and nothing else. They were my neighbors, so yes I've seen them face to face.


Let's face it, you don't really care much about Hebdo, it's more about letting off unsubstantiated rants in a forum where you are clearly out of your depth with any of its purposes. Over matters that you appear just as clearly overtaxed with on account of knowing little to nothing about them.

And your experience is..? You've read a lot, and I'll give you all the brownie points being sought for that achievement. Now, what's your real-world experience?

As much as you are with sticking to your own topic, seeing how your OP here (and elsewhere) is just an opener for you to pursue an agenda that you already show as having nothing to do with Germany or Merkel or whatever else in Europe.

The BBC reported last night that Hollande's approval rating has hit the single digit mark. Merkel is publicly regretting her own decisions, which will affect the current generation's grandchildren and great-grandchildren. The UK surprised the world by voting to leave the EU.

Who's really out of touch, you or me?

You got anything on facts and figures (even where only reflecting current German mood) presented in post #6 ?

Only this; American pollsters put Trump at a 4% chance to win the Republican primary, and he hand the GOP their ass on a plate. American media further unanimously predicted Hillary Clinton to be the winner, prior to the election.

I would assume that the same forces are at work in Germany's media, with Petry always being shown as dead last in the voters minds. Trump and Petry have much in common there. And that is keeping in line with the OP.
 
I've lived around several migrant families, some that were so new, they had the clothes on their backs and nothing else. They were my neighbors, so yes I've seen them face to face.

And your experience is..? You've read a lot, and I'll give you all the brownie points being sought for that achievement. Now, what's your real-world experience?
It's not up for discussion. To the point that I don't speak about any of its details, not even to family, let alone you.

But you can quit trying to make comparisons anyway. Like I said we have absolutely nothing in common.

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Only this; American pollsters put Trump at a 4% chance to win the Republican primary, and he hand the GOP their ass on a plate. American media further unanimously predicted Hillary Clinton to be the winner, prior to the election.

I would assume that the same forces are at work in Germany's media, with Petry always being shown as dead last in the voters minds. Trump and Petry have much in common there. And that is keeping in line with the OP.
I would assume
not only would you, you do. So thanks for clearing that up.

Beyond which you know nothing of German pollster methods nor anything about reliability of forecasts. Just to say that they're usually more accurate than those in the US, possibly on account of Germans polled being more open about their stuff than Yanks apparently were and possibly on account of a "mere" 80 million people in an area smaller than Montana supplying easier means of identifying a representative sample.

As to your persistent and mindless attempts to compare everything to your own country (and assume that that makes things match one to one), it's surprising how your past experiences on here (and possibly elsewhere) do nothing to cure you of such delusions. Possibly explained by the echo chamber you live in letting nothing in on account of its own emissions drowning everything out that tries to enter.

In short there's sufficient evidence documented already over how clueless you are on matters of Europe in general and Germany in particular.

And where it's conceivable that I (still) know more about the US than you do about Europe, you'll notice that I don't go shooting my mouth off in any related forum here.

Another example of how we have nothing in common.
 
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And since they multiply at the rate you cannot match you are screwed. France should have thought about the long term consequences before allowing this cancer in.
Their fertility rate flirts with ours as soon as the second generation. The remaining differential could be offset through assimilation policies that would deislamize them just like we dechristianized and dejewized French people.

Our situation can still be solved, especially if we take into account that a fair number of them are non-citizens we could expel. However it would be nothing easy or trivial, and it would require changes in many fields, including communication to promote phobia of the Islamic religion as a whole (not of Muslims), and constitutional changes to infringe on various human rights and European treaties (no immigration of foreign relatives, unbounded detention of illegals until expulsion, limited freedom of religion).

Challenging but not half of what it seemed five years ago. Thank you ISIS, Brexit and Trump.
 
It's not up for discussion. To the point that I don't speak about any of its details, not even to family, let alone you.

Which equates to more hot air. Maybe global warming would cease if progressives spent a year abstaining from speech?

But you can quit trying to make comparisons anyway. Like I said we have absolutely nothing in common.

My comparison was merely to illustrate that I'm not a well pampered elitist dolt living on a trust fund while generously giving away my country to strangers. That does happen you know.



Beyond which you know nothing of German pollster methods nor anything about reliability of forecasts. Just to say that they're usually more accurate than those in the US, possibly on account of Germans polled being more open about their stuff than Yanks apparently were and possibly on account of a "mere" 80 million people in an area smaller than Montana supplying easier means of identifying a representative sample.

Thanks.

As to your persistent and mindless attempts to compare everything to your own country (and assume that that makes things match one to one), it's surprising how your past experiences on here (and possibly elsewhere) do nothing to cure you of such delusions. Possibly explained by the echo chamber you live in letting nothing in on account of its own emissions drowning everything out that tries to enter.

The people's opinion doesn't decide who becomes chancellor. But does the Reichstag listen to its constituency and vote accordingly? That would be sensible to me.

In short there's sufficient evidence documented already over how clueless you are on matters of Europe in general and Germany in particular.

More clueless than creating an underclass of poverty stricken foreigners who will represent a massive threat to civility? Let me remind you of your own cluelessness.

And where it's conceivable that I (still) know more about the US than you do about Europe, you'll notice that I don't go shooting my mouth off in any related forum here.

Didn't you say you've lived here? Your claims should possess validity if that is so.

Another example of how we have nothing in common.

Thanks God.
 
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My comparison was merely to illustrate that I'm not a well pampered elitist dolt living on a trust fund while generously giving away my country to strangers. That does happen you know.
I don't recall having said that you were anything of the sort.
Pleasure. Let it also be added that the poll figures are just a snapshot of today's moment. National elections are almost a year away and anything can happen in the meantime.
The people's opinion doesn't decide who becomes chancellor.
Well, seeing how the chancellor is not elected directly, that's true. OTH (to exaggerate for the sake of illustration) if one wants Merkel in the seat, one would be pretty dumb to vote Greens, let alone AfD or the Left. She or anyone else will need the majority of votes in the new parliament (Bundestag)to be (re-) elected as chancellor. If you don't have the majority you don't get that.
But does the Reichstag listen to its constituency and vote accordingly? That would be sensible to me.
Dunno what you mean by Reichstag, that's just the name of the building from olden times. The German parliament is the Bundestag.

There is something similar to (not the same as) an electoral college when it comes to electing the Federal President. But that doesn't compare to the POTUS either in that s/he merely has a representative role (a bit like the Queen in UK) and not much clout beyond that (unlike the chancellor). There's nothing resembling any electoral college when it comes to appointing the chancellor. The party that wins or manages to form coalitions for sufficient support (majority of parliament seats) does that. And the voters know what to expect and cast their votes accordingly beforehand.

Incidentally as little a representative vote (as in popular vote) as it is in the US, even where both examples differ vastly.
More clueless than creating an underclass of poverty stricken foreigners who will represent a massive threat to civility? Let me remind you of your own cluelessness.
Again we have just your word for that, better said your description of how you FEEL. That doesn't make for much.
Didn't you say you've lived here? Your claims should possess validity if that is so.
Well you don't seem to get it. My centre of existence has been elsewhere for years. On that point I might as well spout forth on how Outer Mongolia should run its affairs.

As an example I'd not hold the US election system to be desirable over here (winner takes all, popular vote trashed). But that's how it's done over your end and has been done ever since the US was founded. It works for you and that means "don't fix what ain't broken". I wouldn't presume to say otherwise and certainly wouldn't presume to shove any electoral system that works over here onto somebody else over your end.

Same reason I stay out of the gun controversy, the abortion fights and the whole Dems vs. Rep fracas. I don't live in the relevancy of any of those so I won't shoot off the mouth at those that do, whatever their individual take.
Thanks God.
Yeah, I share the sentiment.
 
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