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The Nervous Breakdown of British Politics

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Both Britain's major parties are changing rapidly. Where will this lead?

The nervous breakdown of British politics
By Anne Applebaum

The vulgarity is missing, as is the celebrity glitz. There aren’t any candidates ranting about sex tapes and adultery; there are no hacked emails. But even without the drama that only a U.S. election can provide, the crisis is similar: On both ends of the spectrum, the two major British political parties are suddenly suffering from the same kinds of identity crises as their distant American cousins — and with the same kinds of costs for British democracy.

For most of the past three decades, ever since Margaret Thatcher dragged it out of the shires and onto the international stage, the British Conservative Party has touted itself as the outward-looking, globally trading cheerleader for a country that “punched above its weight.” The party pushed privatization, lower taxes, lower spending, a smaller state. Some of that language is still there: In her speech at the party’s annual conference this week, Prime Minister Theresa May told her colleagues that “the Britain we build after Brexit is going to be a Global Britain.”

But almost in the next breath, she implied that her country would be severing its links with the European Union in a manner that may well result in the construction of new tariff walls and will certainly require prolonged trade negotiations. Later, she threw a few bones to xenophobes,hinting she would like to kick out the tens of thousands of foreign-born doctors who keep the vast British health service functioning and updating the old “rootless cosmopolitan” slur for a new audience: “If you believe you are a citizen of the world,” she declared, “you are a citizen of nowhere.”. . . .

Anyone uncomfortable with any part of this message — anyone who doesn’t like the encrypted xenophobia, anyone still attached to the Thatcherite ideals of the small state or worried about government borrowing, or indeed any member of the 48 percent who voted to keep Britain part of the European Union — is out of luck. Because the opposition Labour Party, transformed under Tony Blair into a centrist party that won three straight general elections, has now been captured by an extremist fringe that is so far outside the center its leaders no longer seem interested in parliamentary politics at all. Consumed by infighting, tarred by accusations of anti-Semitism, the party and its strangely detached leader, Jeremy Corbyn, are more interested in fighting Western democracy than authoritarianism, more interested in toeing extremist lines than winning elections. . . .
 
Both Britain's major parties are changing rapidly. Where will this lead?

The nervous breakdown of British politics
By Anne Applebaum

The vulgarity is missing, as is the celebrity glitz. There aren’t any candidates ranting about sex tapes and adultery; there are no hacked emails. But even without the drama that only a U.S. election can provide, the crisis is similar: On both ends of the spectrum, the two major British political parties are suddenly suffering from the same kinds of identity crises as their distant American cousins — and with the same kinds of costs for British democracy.

For most of the past three decades, ever since Margaret Thatcher dragged it out of the shires and onto the international stage, the British Conservative Party has touted itself as the outward-looking, globally trading cheerleader for a country that “punched above its weight.” The party pushed privatization, lower taxes, lower spending, a smaller state. Some of that language is still there: In her speech at the party’s annual conference this week, Prime Minister Theresa May told her colleagues that “the Britain we build after Brexit is going to be a Global Britain.”

But almost in the next breath, she implied that her country would be severing its links with the European Union in a manner that may well result in the construction of new tariff walls and will certainly require prolonged trade negotiations. Later, she threw a few bones to xenophobes,hinting she would like to kick out the tens of thousands of foreign-born doctors who keep the vast British health service functioning and updating the old “rootless cosmopolitan” slur for a new audience: “If you believe you are a citizen of the world,” she declared, “you are a citizen of nowhere.”. . . .

Anyone uncomfortable with any part of this message — anyone who doesn’t like the encrypted xenophobia, anyone still attached to the Thatcherite ideals of the small state or worried about government borrowing, or indeed any member of the 48 percent who voted to keep Britain part of the European Union — is out of luck. Because the opposition Labour Party, transformed under Tony Blair into a centrist party that won three straight general elections, has now been captured by an extremist fringe that is so far outside the center its leaders no longer seem interested in parliamentary politics at all. Consumed by infighting, tarred by accusations of anti-Semitism, the party and its strangely detached leader, Jeremy Corbyn, are more interested in fighting Western democracy than authoritarianism, more interested in toeing extremist lines than winning elections. . . .

It sounds like Little Britain.
 
Prime Minister Theresa May told her colleagues that “the Britain we build after Brexit is going to be a Global Britain.”

But almost in the next breath, she implied that her country would be severing its links with the European Union in a manner that may well result in the construction of new tariff walls and will certainly require prolonged trade negotiations.
Personally I see no contradiction.


Since the 90's we have built, through the latest WTO treaties and EU, an untenable globalization, one that strips nations from their sovereignties and therefore renders political power impotent and voids democracy of its substance. The EU is simply a dead-end, that attempts to fix its contradiction by becoming a national political community, something that can only be achieved through the construction of an European identity and culture at the expense of existing identities and cultures. And some even dreams of something even more absurd like a global government despite the manifest gap between our respective civilizational ideals.

All of this is rendered even more absurd by the fact that we are getting richer and richer, which should have made economy less and less relevant. Instead of that we are now sacrificing more than ever in the name of competitiveness, forced to put wealth above social order, political stability, environment and democracy in the name of the stronger global competition created by the accrued laissez-faire.

We need a new globalization, one that is compatible with national sovereignty, politics and democracy. Each country should be sovereign, in position to decide whether it wants to prioritize the total national wealth or other considerations, acknowledging that others are also free to retaliate, without diplomatic dramas. I do not think it would cause the end of the global free market, we should continue to encourage it, simply prevent excessive usage of economic might, and make sure that all countries can access the global market.


It would be great if Britain could pave the way to this inevitable reinvention of globalization. Unfortunately I am afraid the EU will attempt to enforce its outdated vision of globalization, and impose its imperialism.
 
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It's been downhill since Brexit and i doubt this will end well for them.
 
It's been downhill since Brexit and i doubt this will end well for them.

Hmmm.

[h=3]Brexit boom: The five charts which show Britain has escaped an ...[/h]www.telegraph.co.uk › Business


The Daily Telegraph


Aug 19, 2016 - The first economic data for July – the month following the Brexit ... Here are the latest figures showing the UK's performance since the vote. .... on a par with the GDP expansion seen in therecovery years of 2011 and 2012.



[h=3]Recession fears fade as UK's growth engine rebounds at record pace ...[/h]www.telegraph.co.uk › Business


The Daily Telegraph


Sep 5, 2016 - The UK economy is on track to avoid recession this year, according to a closely ... fade as UK's growth engine rebounds at record pace after Brexit shock ... expansion plans and a recoveryin the energy sector," Markit said.



[h=3]Britain's post-Brexit economy is growing faster than expected... just as ...[/h]https://www.thesun.co.uk/.../britains-post-brexit-economy-is-growing-faster-t...


The Sun


Sep 8, 2016 - BRITAIN'S economy is growing faster than predicted post-Brexit as Europe's ... weeks of gloomy growth downgrades in the weeks after the June vote. ... Mr Draghi said: “The economic recovery in the euro area is expected to ...






 
brexit hasn't actually happened yet.
 
Hmmm.

[h=3]Brexit boom: The five charts which show Britain has escaped an ...[/h]www.telegraph.co.uk › Business


The Daily Telegraph


Aug 19, 2016 - The first economic data for July – the month following the Brexit ... Here are the latest figures showing the UK's performance since the vote. .... on a par with the GDP expansion seen in therecovery years of 2011 and 2012.



[h=3]Recession fears fade as UK's growth engine rebounds at record pace ...[/h]www.telegraph.co.uk › Business


The Daily Telegraph


Sep 5, 2016 - The UK economy is on track to avoid recession this year, according to a closely ... fade as UK's growth engine rebounds at record pace after Brexit shock ... expansion plans and a recoveryin the energy sector," Markit said.



[h=3]Britain's post-Brexit economy is growing faster than expected... just as ...[/h]https://www.thesun.co.uk/.../britains-post-brexit-economy-is-growing-faster-t...


The Sun


Sep 8, 2016 - BRITAIN'S economy is growing faster than predicted post-Brexit as Europe's ... weeks of gloomy growth downgrades in the weeks after the June vote. ... Mr Draghi said: “The economic recovery in the euro area is expected to ...







Yet the pound is at a 30-year low before it's happened! Any other government who devalued the currency by 15% would be facing a swift exit.
 
Yet the pound is at a 30-year low before it's happened! Any other government who devalued the currency by 15% would be facing a swift exit.

On the contrary, devaluation can be a useful tool to spur growth.
 
On the contrary, devaluation can be a useful tool to spur growth.

Harold Wilson is still revered for his masterly speech on the value of the pound in your pocket still being the same....
 
On the contrary, devaluation can be a useful tool to spur growth.
Not if that development is spurred by market forces outside of one's own making and not in an economy heavily dependent on imports.

That said, yesterday's Sterling "plummet" was a flash drop from which it meanwhile recovered, albeit not completely. One (likely) primary reason being automatic algorithms, triggered by initial aggressive currency selling from opportunistic traders.

But it's still down considerably since the date of Brexit vote and UK measures had little to nothing to do with that.
 
Harold Wilson is still revered for his masterly speech on the value of the pound in your pocket still being the same....

After a costly battle, market pressures forced the government into devaluation in 1967. Wilson was much criticised for a broadcast in which he assured listeners that the "pound in your pocket" had not lost its value. It was widely forgotten that his next sentence had been "prices will rise". Economic performance did show some improvement after the devaluation, as economists had predicted. The devaluation, with accompanying austerity measures, successfully restored the balance of payments to surplus by 1969. This unexpectedly turned into a small deficit again in 1970. The bad figures were announced just before polling in the 1970 general election, and are often cited as one of the reasons for Labour's defeat.[SUP][26][/SUP]

Harold Wilson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Wilson

Wikipedia


James Harold Wilson, Baron Wilson of Rievaulx, KG, OBE, PC, FRS, FSS (11 March 1916 – 24 May 1995) was a British Labour Party politician who served as ...Early life · ‎Member of Parliament (1945–64) · ‎First term as Prime Minister ...
 
What would Gladstone say?

He'd wonder what your white supremacist websites had to say on the matter. Have you got an comment from American Renaissance to throw into this thread?
 
Both Britain's major parties are changing rapidly. Where will this lead?

The nervous breakdown of British politics
By Anne Applebaum

The vulgarity is missing, as is the celebrity glitz. There aren’t any candidates ranting about sex tapes and adultery; there are no hacked emails. But even without the drama that only a U.S. election can provide, the crisis is similar: On both ends of the spectrum, the two major British political parties are suddenly suffering from the same kinds of identity crises as their distant American cousins — and with the same kinds of costs for British democracy.

For most of the past three decades, ever since Margaret Thatcher dragged it out of the shires and onto the international stage, the British Conservative Party has touted itself as the outward-looking, globally trading cheerleader for a country that “punched above its weight.” The party pushed privatization, lower taxes, lower spending, a smaller state. Some of that language is still there: In her speech at the party’s annual conference this week, Prime Minister Theresa May told her colleagues that “the Britain we build after Brexit is going to be a Global Britain.”

But almost in the next breath, she implied that her country would be severing its links with the European Union in a manner that may well result in the construction of new tariff walls and will certainly require prolonged trade negotiations. Later, she threw a few bones to xenophobes,hinting she would like to kick out the tens of thousands of foreign-born doctors who keep the vast British health service functioning and updating the old “rootless cosmopolitan” slur for a new audience: “If you believe you are a citizen of the world,” she declared, “you are a citizen of nowhere.”. . . .

Anyone uncomfortable with any part of this message — anyone who doesn’t like the encrypted xenophobia, anyone still attached to the Thatcherite ideals of the small state or worried about government borrowing, or indeed any member of the 48 percent who voted to keep Britain part of the European Union — is out of luck. Because the opposition Labour Party, transformed under Tony Blair into a centrist party that won three straight general elections, has now been captured by an extremist fringe that is so far outside the center its leaders no longer seem interested in parliamentary politics at all. Consumed by infighting, tarred by accusations of anti-Semitism, the party and its strangely detached leader, Jeremy Corbyn, are more interested in fighting Western democracy than authoritarianism, more interested in toeing extremist lines than winning elections. . . .

Jesus Christ she sounds like Donald Trump.
 
My favorite Wilde quote comprises his last words. "Either that wallpaper goes or I do."
Very apt for here (DP, not necessarily you ;))

"By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, journalism keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community."

:mrgreen:
 
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