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Isis Members Arrested in Germany, Used False Passports to Get In

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The three -- two Syrian teenagers and one man in his 20s, identified as Mohamed A. -- came to Germany in the middle of November 2015 via Turkey and Greece, the German Federal Prosecutor's Office said.

They were given passports provided by ISIS and received thousands of US dollars as well as mobile phones.

European security officials had estimated that 30 to 40 suspected ISIS terrorists who helped support the November Paris attacks are still at large, CNN reported last week.

Germany arrests: 3 alleged ISIS members detained in Paris attacks probe - CNN.com

They were able to pass through immigration with phony passports, and lived in Germany for almost a year before being caught.

All it takes for a terrorist to make it to Germany is a fake passport. No wonder Germans are outraged by what is going on there.

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Apparently ... what, Obama invented document forgery?
 
truthatallcost said:
The three -- two Syrian teenagers and one man in his 20s, identified as Mohamed A. -- came to Germany in the middle of November 2015 via Turkey and Greece, the German Federal Prosecutor's Office said.

They were given passports provided by ISIS and received thousands of US dollars as well as mobile phones.

European security officials had estimated that 30 to 40 suspected ISIS terrorists who helped support the November Paris attacks are still at large, CNN reported last week.

Germany arrests: 3 alleged ISIS members detained in Paris attacks probe - CNN.com

They were able to pass through immigration with phony passports, and lived in Germany for almost a year before being caught.

All it takes for a terrorist to make it to Germany is a fake passport. No wonder Germans are outraged by what is going on there.

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What has enraged people is that the political talking heads and media had told the population that there were no terrorists among the refugees.
 
truthatallcost said:
The three -- two Syrian teenagers and one man in his 20s, identified as Mohamed A. -- came to Germany in the middle of November 2015 via Turkey and Greece, the German Federal Prosecutor's Office said.

They were given passports provided by ISIS and received thousands of US dollars as well as mobile phones.

European security officials had estimated that 30 to 40 suspected ISIS terrorists who helped support the November Paris attacks are still at large, CNN reported last week.

Germany arrests: 3 alleged ISIS members detained in Paris attacks probe - CNN.com

They were able to pass through immigration with phony passports, and lived in Germany for almost a year before being caught.

All it takes for a terrorist to make it to Germany is a fake passport. No wonder Germans are outraged by what is going on there.

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All it takes for any terrorists to get into any country is a fake passport.. hardly unique to Germany. Much easier too, than going on a thousand km death march...
 
What is even more enraging is the perpetual spreading of the lie (#3) that the political class and the media ever made such a claim at all.

The potential of radicals "swimming in the sea" of refugees was adequately addressed long before last September.
 
Chagos said:
What is even more enraging is the perpetual spreading of the lie (#3) that the political class and the media ever made such a claim at all.

The potential of radicals "swimming in the sea" of refugees was adequately addressed long before last September.
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You obviously were not following German television and news very closely at the time.

As a matter of fact, Dr Merkel is quoted in the Frankfurter Allgemeinen, which is one of the better papers to say that the increased danger of has nothing to do with the refugees as recently as the 18th of last month. The link pops up as the first on a simple Google search in German.
 
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Chagos said:
What is even more enraging is the perpetual spreading of the lie (#3) that the political class and the media ever made such a claim at all.

The potential of radicals "swimming in the sea" of refugees was adequately addressed long before last September.
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The offspring of refugees will likely carry out more attacks than their parents, but these will be labeled as German or French citizens who were discriminated against. The media will swoon over these poor darlings, while stepping over the bodies of the innocent.
 
Maybe be careful with the "obviously". That tends to backfire a lot.

Germany was on alert long before September last year and if that fact is missed by some, that doesn't mean that others missed it.
 
truthatallcost said:
The offspring of refugees will likely carry out more attacks than their parents,..........~
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A really pertinent appraisal, so rooted in the reliability of whatever crystal ball you're using. Surprising is how that gadget even allows the caveat of "likely".

:roll:
 
Chagos said:
What is even more enraging is the perpetual spreading of the lie (#3) that the political class and the media ever made such a claim at all.

The potential of radicals "swimming in the sea" of refugees was adequately addressed long before last September.
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I have seen that quite often, but not in this case. The lie is not coming from #3.
 
Chagos said:
A really pertinent appraisal, so rooted in the reliability of whatever crystal ball you're using. Surprising is how that gadget even allows the caveat of "likely".

:roll:
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What he said has already been proven by the offspring who are citizens of their parents host countries. Did you forget about that?
 
Chagos said:
A really pertinent appraisal, so rooted in the reliability of whatever crystal ball you're using. Surprising is how that gadget even allows the caveat of "likely".

:roll:
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You're right, millions of first generation Muslim Europeans are going to assimilate seamlessly into the rich cultural fabric of Europe, as is the case with first Gen Muslim Americans!

While immigrants draw much of the attention, it’s their children who are proving to be the most fruitful recruiting ground for radical jihad in the U.S., accounting for at least half of the deadly attacks over the past decade.

In other cases, attackers were immigrants brought to the U.S. as young children. They grew up in the U.S. but were besieged by questions of identity.

The same identity struggles affect other first-generation Americans, but Asian and Hispanic immigrants, for example, don’t have al Qaeda or Islamic State recruiters interested in them, Mr. Beutel said. Instead, they are typically targeted for recruitment by criminal gangs.

American-born children of immigrants proving fruitful recruiting ground for jihad in U.S. - Washington Times

Lets keep our fingers crossed.
 
PeteEU said:
All it takes for any terrorists to get into any country is a fake passport.. hardly unique to Germany. Much easier too, than going on a thousand km death march...
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It also takes a complacent native populace which has been spoiled by high living standards, thus forgetting that while Germans and French may harbor no hostility towards Arabs and Africans, Europeans are hated by many in the Muslim world.
 
truthatallcost said:
It also takes a complacent native populace which has been spoiled by high living standards, thus forgetting that while Germans and French may harbor no hostility towards Arabs and Africans, Europeans are hated by many in the Muslim world.
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Well said.
 
truthatallcost said:
It also takes a complacent native populace which has been spoiled by high living standards, thus forgetting that while Germans and French may harbor no hostility towards Arabs and Africans, Europeans are hated by many in the Muslim world.
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You mean like the British and Americans? Germans are not that hated as they never really got an empire.. so your argument falls apart there. Now the French, sure..
 
truthatallcost said:
The three -- two Syrian teenagers and one man in his 20s, identified as Mohamed A. -- came to Germany in the middle of November 2015 via Turkey and Greece, the German Federal Prosecutor's Office said.

They were given passports provided by ISIS and received thousands of US dollars as well as mobile phones.

European security officials had estimated that 30 to 40 suspected ISIS terrorists who helped support the November Paris attacks are still at large, CNN reported last week.

Germany arrests: 3 alleged ISIS members detained in Paris attacks probe - CNN.com

They were able to pass through immigration with phony passports, and lived in Germany for almost a year before being caught.

All it takes for a terrorist to make it to Germany is a fake passport. No wonder Germans are outraged by what is going on there.

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so they dont need to hide with immigrants and thats why we should be angry at people fleeing isis?
 
Chagos said:
"Either......, or" and "neither........, nor".

The latter if you want to use the negative.
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Try something on topic for a change.
 
Chagos said:
You really do not seem to know enough about Germany or what transpired there both in official channels and the media to be able to make any pertinent assessment.
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I did not say anything about Germany. I said I see people perpetuating lies. Pay attention.
 
Chagos said:
When people have difficulty with the language they want to use on a topic, I try to help out.
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And it has been determined that is not your job and is nothing more than a veiled insult. Ask a mod.
 
My bad. I confused the "here" with another forum where I DO respond.
 
PeteEU said:
You mean like the British and Americans? Germans are not that hated as they never really got an empire.. so your argument falls apart there. Now the French, sure..
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970,000 Muslim migrants are jobless in Germany. Even if most Muslims typically bear no ill will towards Germans, they will .

The current situation in Germany requires the government to financially support migrants, and whatever offspring they will have in Germany, for many years to come. This arrangement will keep the migrants from starving, while not providing much in the way of material possessions. Meanwhile, these migrants will encounter Germans on a daily basis driving Mercedes Benz and BMW, as many Germans enjoy prosperity.
Hostility will turn to radicalism, and Germany will pay dearly.

Of course, those who are already radical in their beliefs don't need an excuse to hate Germans, considering Germany's secular society, women's rights, gay rights, Christian heritage, etc. Reports have surfaced stating that religious zealots were amongst the 2015 influx of refugees, so the seeds of destruction may be sown as we speak.
 
They didn't travel under their own names? Is there no depth of depravity to which these people will not sink?
 
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