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You think Trump is anti-Islam, he is a nice and moderate person compared to Wilders!!

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coldjoint said:
Certainly does look that way. There are Islamic countries out there to relocate to. Of course there is no welfare.......
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Except that they are Dutch by birth (the people he wants to strip of their nationality) and this is their country and removing them from their home is not legal or constitutional and thus very much not reasonable.

And there is no welfare, there is a safety net but that it too little to live on and too much to die on. Being on welfare is not a pot of gold with no responsibilities or duties.
 
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Bodhisattva said:
I get sick of the people getting up on their self obssessed moral grandstand telling everybody that we have to accept everybody. It is dumb. Some peolle dont deserve OR EVEN WANT acceptance. Some people just want to kill you.
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There is no shame in having an enemy. The shame is not admitting it. Too moral, or just true?
 
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Peter King said:
Except that they are Dutch by birth (the people he wants to strip of their nationality) and this is their country and removing them from their home is not legal or constitutional and thus very much not reasonable.

And there is no welfare, there is a safety net but that it too little to live on and too much to die on. Being on welfare is not a pot of gold with no responsibilities or duties.
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Was Quissling born in Norway?
 
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coldjoint said:
Was Quissling born in Norway?
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What the hell are you talking about, you are making zero sense to bring this nazi into the discussion. But yes, he was born in Norway and again, what the hell does that have to do with taking the nationality of Dutch people for crimes that Dutch people would not be stripped of their nationality for the exact same crimes (violating the first amendment).
 
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Peter King said:
What the hell are you talking about, you are making zero sense to bring this nazi into the discussion. But yes, he was born in Norway and again, what the hell does that have to do with taking the nationality of Dutch people for crimes that Dutch people would not be stripped of their nationality for the exact same crimes (violating the first amendment).
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I am speaking of a traitor.
 
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Chagos said:
I made a Venetian blind once. Poked my finger in both his eyes.
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Have you ever made a Maltese cross?
 
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zyzygy said:
Have you ever made a Maltese cross?
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Yup, just after I made a Hawaiian flip.
 
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Peter King said:
What the hell are you talking about, you are making zero sense to bring this nazi into the discussion.But yes, he was born in Norway and again, what the hell does that have to do with taking the nationality of Dutch people for crimes that Dutch people would not be stripped of their nationality for the exact same crimes (violating the first amendment).
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But yes, he was born in Norway
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Actually only Quisling was.

No idea where Quissling was born though. As to what either of them have to do with this thread, well, some people can focus and some can't. Unless he's implying that people of Dutch or Norwegian nationality can be more easily shot at home, rather than deported. But Gawd knows what goes on in that head.

If the poster hasn't worked on any pitch so far, he should apply for the job. Nobody can move goalposts faster than he can. And right out of the game too. :mrgreen:
 
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coldjoint said:
I am speaking of a traitor.
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But that has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion now does it.
 
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Peter King said:
But that has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion now does it.
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Danish born people are very capable of hating Dutch society. Those could be the same people that approve of cultural suicide.
 
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coldjoint said:
Danish born people are very capable of hating Dutch society. Those could be the same people that approve of cultural suicide.
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Again, what on earth are you talking about?

We are talking about Wilders and his unhealthy obsession with his hatred of every single Muslim even the moderate and positive ones just because he is too idiotic to understand that the vast majority of Muslims aren't that different from the rest of the Dutch.
 
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Peter King said:
Again, what on earth are you talking about?

We are talking about Wilders and his unhealthy obsession with his hatred of every single Muslim even the moderate and positive ones just because he is too idiotic to understand that the vast majority of Muslims aren't that different from the rest of the Dutch.
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It is as if he does not know that the Netherlands once administrated the largest Muslim nation on Earth.
 
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Carjosse said:
It is as if he does not know that the Netherlands once administrated the largest Muslim nation on Earth.
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The colonial past of the Netherlands is not always something to be proud of, but yes, we once administrated Indonesia.
 
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Peter King said:
Again, what on earth are you talking about?

We are talking about Wilders and his unhealthy obsession with his hatred of every single Muslim even the moderate and positive ones just because he is too idiotic to understand that the vast majority of Muslims aren't that different from the rest of the Dutch.
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Wilders doesn't hate them, he just loves your culture and country more. He knows, like any sane individual, that a tolerant culture cannot survive an intlolerant one. He knows your culture will disappear and does not want to see that happen. And has figured out necessary steps to prevent it.
 
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coldjoint said:
Wilders doesn't hate them, he just loves your culture and country more. He knows, like any sane individual, that a tolerant culture cannot survive an intlolerant one. He knows your culture will disappear and does not want to see that happen. And has figured out necessary steps to prevent it.
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Muslims in the Netherlands have demonstrated they are perfectly capable of integration into Dutch society. Take the mayor of Rotterdam for example, a Moroccan Muslim immigrant but unless I told you that you probably could not have guessed that. He is even popular among PVV voters.
 
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coldjoint said:
Wilders doesn't hate them, he just loves your culture and country more. He knows, like any sane individual, that a tolerant culture cannot survive an intlolerant one. He knows your culture will disappear and does not want to see that happen. And has figured out necessary steps to prevent it.
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Well, that is your opinion. And protecting our tolerant society is not achieved by being an bigoted intolerant ass wipe as Wilders is.

He tries to save our country by destroying and trampling our most sacred values as a society, and that is not what I call saving so thanks but no thanks Wilders, you can go to hell with your hatred and itolerance.
 
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Carjosse said:
Muslims in the Netherlands have demonstrated they are perfectly capable of integration into Dutch society. Take the mayor of Rotterdam for example, a Moroccan Muslim immigrant but unless I told you that you probably could not have guessed that. He is even popular among PVV voters.
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You can see that from Canada? Wilders is worried about the ones that haven't integrated. And the ones that have who support those who haven't. He knows Islams MO. Everyone should by now, but the facts about Islam are whitewashed or silenced. Multiculture with the Islamic culture is a death warrant for the other culture.
 
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Carjosse said:
Muslims in the Netherlands have demonstrated they are perfectly capable of integration into Dutch society. Take the mayor of Rotterdam for example, a Moroccan Muslim immigrant but unless I told you that you probably could not have guessed that. He is even popular among PVV voters.
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I seriously hope he is going to change his mind and lead our party to the next prime minister's position next year. A very capable, likeable and respectable man who can lead our country much better than that moron Wilders.
 
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Peter King said:
Well, that is your opinion. And protecting our tolerant society is not achieved by being an bigoted intolerant ass wipe as Wilders is.

He tries to save our country by destroying and trampling our most sacred values as a society, and that is not what I call saving so thanks but no thanks Wilders, you can go to hell with your hatred and itolerance.
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That is what he is trying to save you from. Your words describe Mohammad not Wilders.
 
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coldjoint said:
You can see that from Canada? Wilders is worried about the ones that haven't integrated. And the ones that have who support those who haven't. He knows Islams MO. Everyone should by now, but the facts about Islam are whitewashed or silenced. Multiculture with the Islamic culture is a death warrant for the other culture.
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Lack of integration is a failure of both sides, because this is the attitude of a lot of Dutch people

Integrate NOW!!!!!, we are not going to help you, we do not care how you do it but do it, we will actively make you feel unwanted and dislike but you still have to integrate NOW!!!!!

If you stand arms folded scowling at new people and do not at least try and communicate with new comers they will never feel at home or feel like they can integrate in a society. In this we could take a lesson from Americans who are much more tolerant of immigrants than we Dutch are.
 
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coldjoint said:
That is what he is trying to save you from. Your words describe Mohammad not Wilders.
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I was not aware I could time travel back to the early centuries AD, because if you have not guessed it, he lived in the Middle East when people were backward in their opinions. They were backward there in the Middle East and they were backward in Europe.

And my words were all about Wilders and his intolerance.
 
Re: You think Trump is anti-Islam, he is a nice and moderate person compared to Wilde

coldjoint said:
You can see that from Canada? Wilders is worried about the ones that haven't integrated. And the ones that have who support those who haven't. He knows Islams MO. Everyone should by now, but the facts about Islam are whitewashed or silenced. Multiculture with the Islamic culture is a death warrant for the other culture.
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My family is Dutch and I closely follow Dutch news. They integrate but they cannot be expected to integrate instantaneously and the more Muslims are seen as negative and rejected by society the harder it is for them to integrate.
 
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Peter King said:
I seriously hope he is going to change his mind and lead our party to the next prime minister's position next year. A very capable, likeable and respectable man who can lead our country much better than that moron Wilders.
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I hope so too, he could even win over PVV voters. But I would still prefer another Rutte government to Wilders. I would love to see D66 become the largest party but I know that will never happen.
 
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Carjosse said:
I hope so too, he could even win over PVV voters. But I would still prefer another Rutte government to Wilders. I would love to see D66 become the largest party but I know that will never happen.
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Any party except the SP is preferable over Wilders, hell, even the SP (a party I do not trust or like) would be better than the PVV.
 
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Peter King said:
Any party except the SP is preferable over Wilders, hell, even the SP (a party I do not trust or like) would be better than the PVV.
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Well most of the Dutch polls put Wilders chance of government at 0% so most likely we will never see that. I predict another Rutte government.
 
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