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Lagerfeld: 'Paris nightmare now'...

Urethra Franklin said:
You should know all about being wrong - it's a permanent state for you.

We all have problems with crime, but we don't have the levels of indiscriminate shooting you have in the US.

Some people were killed at a swimming pool, in Spalding, UK today. The perpetrator was neither black, nor Arab, nor muslim. Funny that.
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That has nothing to do with the vast Muslim crime/terrorist problem plaguing Europe as we speak.

You are an apologist and I ain't buying any of it!

coldjoint said:
And that is why none of it is relevant to radical Islam. Excuses save 0 lives. Actually apologists now have blood on their hands.
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Precisely!

Urethra Franklin said:
Please go to the other thread and answer the question you're avoiding there.

And also answer this:

A muslim commits an atrocity - you say all muslims are terrorists or all muslims are rapists. Of course they're not. You judge all by the few.
A muslim like the Malian at the Paris Kosher supermarket puts his life on the line to hide and save the lives of Jewish customers. You don't say all muslims are heroes; and with good reason, not all of them are. Why judge all by one example.

My question is this, why on planet magenta is it OK to judge all by the few ONLY when it suits you?
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No one said all, but most of us say it's Muslims first and foremost committing these atrocities. Deal with it and stop apologizing for them!
 
coldjoint said:
MickeyW said:
Mother, daughters stabbed in French resort 'for being scantily dressed'...

A woman and her three daughters have been stabbed in a French resort for being ‘scantily dressed’.

An eight-year-old girl was left fighting for her life after the attack in the Garde-Colombe in the Hautes-Alpes region of Southern France.

The man is believed to have attacked the three girls outside the family’s apartment before entering the building and attacking the mother.

Jean-Marc Duprat, a deputy mayor for the town of Laragne-Monteglin in the Hautes-Alpes region said the suspect, who is not related to them, was upset they were wearing shorts and T-shirts.

French media says that the man is of Moroccan descent and is 37 years old. It is also reported that he is known by police for previous crimes.

Mother and three daughters stabbed in French resort 'for being scantily dressed' | Metro News


What? Another peaceful Muslim ....attacking in France? :shock:
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How about that? Almost daily now.
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The French prosecutor has confirmed that the man hasn't said anything yet so how do both of you know it was because they were scantily dressed?

And what is "almost daily now?"

Does this mean you are brave enough to answer my question?

coldjoint said:
Show me one lie. And I will prove it is not. Hit it.
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Let's start with the "almost daily" comment. Feel free to elaborate -

a) almost daily crimes in Europe by muslims because of their religion?
b) almost daily crimes in Europe by a select group of muslim followers of a particular brand of islam?
c) almost daily - please just prove this isn't a lie.
 
MickeyW said:
~......................No one said all, but most of us say it's Muslims first and foremost committing these atrocities. Deal with it and stop apologizing for them!
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Like another poster here you might want to acquaint yourself with command of a particular field of vocabulary more.

Like learning the difference between apology and apologetism.

The first constituting saying that one is sorry for a wrong-doing, the second constituting defence and rebuttal.

Just saying.
 
MickeyW said:
In a post-Godard world, to imagine Paris is to imagine glittering lights by nights on the Champs-Élysées; members of the intelligentsia debating politics at Café de Flore; and chic, slender women, the picture of sophistication and insouciance, wearing the world's most elegant labels.
But if you ask Karl Lagerfeld, the German-born creative director of the quintessential Parisian brand Chanel, this is all a myth -- and has been for a long time.

He's seen drastic changes since the times when Paris "looked like an old French movie."
"It was another world. There was no feeling of danger, and not even a boy of 16 years old can walk in the street," he explains. "Things are changing, but I have the feeling I lived in a world that no longer exists."

Karl Lagerfeld: How Paris has lost its glamor - CNN.com
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Paris is wonderful in Spring. Summer is better in the mountains and in but a few days of Fall it is better to go South beyond the Pyrenees.
 
Chagos said:
Like another poster here you might want to acquaint yourself with command of a particular field of vocabulary more.

Like learning the difference between apology and apologetism.

The first constituting saying that one is sorry for a wrong-doing, the second constituting defence and rebuttal.

Just saying.
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Are you sure of the term "apologetism". I know "apologetics" or "apologist", but have not actually ever run into "apologetism".

But as you like to say: "Like another poster here you might want to acquaint yourself with command of a particular field of vocabulary more." ;)
 
MickeyW said:
That has nothing to do with the vast Muslim crime/terrorist problem plaguing Europe as we speak.

You are an apologist and I ain't buying any of it!



Precisely!



No one said all, but most of us say it's Muslims first and foremost committing these atrocities. Deal with it and stop apologizing for them!
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Nobody is apologising for terrorists of any persuasion.

You are scapegoating an entire group of people.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
The French prosecutor has confirmed that the man hasn't said anything yet so how do both of you know it was because they were scantily dressed?

And what is "almost daily now?"

Does this mean you are brave enough to answer my question?



Let's start with the "almost daily" comment. Feel free to elaborate -

a) almost daily crimes in Europe by muslims because of their religion?
b) almost daily crimes in Europe by a select group of muslim followers of a particular brand of islam?
c) almost daily - please just prove this isn't a lie.
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a)How many crimes go unreported? Your media does not print every crime and even less when committed by a Muslim, and less when committed by a refugee.
Now are you going to deny that? And religion or culture is just an excuse not to punish them, or hardly punish them.

b)Where did I say a select group?

c) Just the attacks that have been posted prove that.
 
coldjoint said:
a)How many crimes go unreported? Your media does not print every crime and even less when committed by a Muslim, and less when committed by a refugee.
Now are you going to deny that? And religion or culture is just an excuse not to punish them, or hardly punish them.
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Ever heard of the "prove a negative" fallacy? It's also called argument from ignorance and you've just committed it.

coldjoint said:
b)Where did I say a select group?
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If you'd been following my question to you rather than ignore it, you'd see I was the one mentioning the select group of muslims (otherwise known as Wahhabis of the Sunni sect)

That's the bit you've ignored when I asked you whether you felt all muslims were criminals / terrorists etc or just some.

coldjoint said:
c) Just the attacks that have been posted prove that.
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Ahhh... so the whole of the European press has been ignoring terrorist attacks in Western Europe by Turks, Iranians and all other non-Sunni groups?

Conspiracy theory much do you?
 
Infinite Chaos said:
Ever heard of the "prove a negative" fallacy? It's also called argument from ignorance and you've just committed it.



If you'd been following my question to you rather than ignore it, you'd see I was the one mentioning the select group of muslims (otherwise known as Wahhabis of the Sunni sect)

That's the bit you've ignored when I asked you whether you felt all muslims were criminals / terrorists etc or just some.



Ahhh... so the whole of the European press has been ignoring terrorist attacks in Western Europe by Turks, Iranians and all other non-Sunni groups?

Conspiracy theory much do you?
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Islam itself is a conspiracy against freedom and human rights.
 
coldjoint said:
Islam itself is a conspiracy against freedom and human rights.
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Infinite Chaos said:
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Nothing to say about Islam freedom and human rights? Islam has nothing that even comes close to those ideas for anyone but Muslim men. Time you admitted as much. Silly memes are silly. People are dying because of Islam and your media does cover things up.
 
coldjoint said:
Nothing to say about Islam freedom and human rights? Islam has nothing that even comes close to those ideas for anyone but Muslim men. Time you admitted as much. Silly memes are silly. People are dying because of Islam and your media does cover things up.
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People are dying because of a radical interpretation of Islam.

In this world hatred ceases not by Hatred. It ceases only by love.
 
Kiwimac said:
People are dying because of a radical interpretation of Islam.

In this world hatred ceases not by Hatred. It ceases only by love.
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That interpretation is not radical. It is straight out of the Koran. But it is killing people.
 
Chagos said:
Like another poster here you might want to acquaint yourself with command of a particular field of vocabulary more.

Like learning the difference between apology and apologetism.

The first constituting saying that one is sorry for a wrong-doing, the second constituting defence and rebuttal.

Just saying.
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Just saying nothing that has to do with the topic. Why do you even bother? Everyone knows the program.
 
Many Muslims and religious scholars would disagree.

In this world hatred ceases not by Hatred. It ceases only by love.
 
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