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Terrorism in Western Europe Used to Be Much Worse

reinoe said:
The European response to terrorist attacks...
meh, could be worse!
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Who said it was a response? It is just a statistical fact that I was bringing. Stop making a mountain out of a mole hill.

I don't sympathize with people who bring tragedy upon themselves so deliberately. I felt bad for what happened at Charlie Hebdo, but maybe my feelings were misplaced.
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So you are not sympathetic about 9/11? You also believe that America brought it on it self?
 
Abbazorkzog said:
I was thinking of "The Troubles".
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Which appears to account for about 75% of this list. Given the fact that the IRA waged its war primarily on the British military, is it fair to compare international Islamic terrorism to the IRA?

Without the IRA, this list would still be dominated by radical Islam !
 
truthatallcost said:
Which appears to account for about 75% of this list. Given the fact that the IRA waged its war primarily on the British military ~
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I can tell you Northern Ireland wasn't a peachy place to be, I served in the 80's. The catholics hated us and for a squaddie like me who was the wrong colour in an area where the National Front and BNP drew a lot of support I read comments about no go zones in the UK and p**s myself laughing.

You guys know nothing of no-go zones until you feel the hairs on the back of your neck tickling because an IRA sniper may be watching you.
 
truthatallcost said:
Which appears to account for about 75% of this list. Given the fact that the IRA waged its war primarily on the British military, is it fair to compare international Islamic terrorism to the IRA?

Without the IRA, this list would still be dominated by radical Islam !
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I think it is fair to compare them to Islamists. They are both terrorist organizations. They should both be treated and held equally accountable for their actions.
 
Abbazorkzog said:
I think it is fair to compare them to Islamists ~
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Maybe we learned a lot in dealings with the IRA and our security services are much better at infiltrating such groups (I'm thinking of how groups like Combat 18 had at one time more secret service members that actual fascists, hopefully we also have people in and among the jihadis too) but the situation and threat level is nowhere near the same in the UK as it was in the 70's and 80's.

So, you can loosely compare them but they haven't had as much success in the UK as the IRA did.
 
OrphanSlug said:
Why all the effort to diminish what is happening?
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It's reality orientation for the Kermit-the-frog "the terrorists are coming to get us!" types. We in Europe got the t shirt a long time ago.
 
Manc Skipper said:
It's reality orientation for the Kermit-the-frog "the terrorists are coming to get us!" types. We in Europe got the t shirt a long time ago.
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Glass of wine nearly all over the laptop screen...
 
truthatallcost said:
Which appears to account for about 75% of this list. Given the fact that the IRA waged its war primarily on the British military, is it fair to compare international Islamic terrorism to the IRA?

Without the IRA, this list would still be dominated by radical Islam !
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The IRA killed quite a few civilians. (650 civilian) (1200 military) Approx: 33% civilian deaths.
 
RetiredUSN said:
The IRA killed quite a few civilians. (650 civilian) (1200 military) Approx: 33% civilian deaths.
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I had the figure for UK military deaths at around 7-800 but that's for the troubles, your figure probably includes the early 20th Century campaign which saw Eire created.

As for civilian casualties, the IRA also invented the quaint tradition of kneecapping too. Wonder what that little statistic is..
 
PeteEU: Everyone chill, there's nothing to worry about. Open your borders, Europe, there's no harm in letting 'em all in! *takes another hit of the bong* They'll enrich your countries. And heck, terrorism used to be b]worse[/b] in the past, so these refugees/migrants/undocumented workers/courageous settlers can actually reduce! the number of terrorist attacks.
 
Manc Skipper said:
They made the AR15 infamous here. (or Armalite, as it was known then.)
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I had a crazy older cousin in the IRA. I never really understood why he went over there, but he was "all in".

Pretty stupid for a guy that grew up in Boston and didn't have any ties, or immediate family in Ireland.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
I can tell you Northern Ireland wasn't a peachy place to be, I served in the 80's. The catholics hated us and for a squaddie like me who was the wrong colour in an area where the National Front and BNP drew a lot of support I read comments about no go zones in the UK and p**s myself laughing.

You guys know nothing of no-go zones until you feel the hairs on the back of your neck tickling because an IRA sniper may be watching you.
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I see what you're saying, and I'm sure that would have been a f*cked place to be for a young soldier. I'm not downplaying how bad that was, I'm saying that comparing a conflict that was isolated to mostly Northern Ireland and England isn't the same as Islamic terror, which isn't confined to any borders.

It amazes me how complacent some Europeans are about this. Like releasing Abdelbaset al-Megrahi after he was responsible for killing 270 people. I mean that's completely insane.
 
reinoe said:
The European response to terrorist attacks...
meh, could be worse!

I don't sympathize with people who bring tragedy upon themselves so deliberately. I felt bad for what happened at Charlie Hebdo, but maybe my feelings were misplaced.
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What about this is a European response? It's an article in 'Mother Jones' about a statistical chart commissioned by Huffington Post.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
Maybe we learned a lot in dealings with the IRA and our security services are much better at infiltrating such groups (I'm thinking of how groups like Combat 18 had at one time more secret service members that actual fascists, hopefully we also have people in and among the jihadis too) but the situation and threat level is nowhere near the same in the UK as it was in the 70's and 80's.

So, you can loosely compare them but they haven't had as much success in the UK as the IRA did.
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I mean as far as illegality and categorization of "threat-type" goes.
 
Grand Mal said:
What about this is a European response? It's an article in 'Mother Jones' about a statistical chart commissioned by Huffington Post.
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He said the European response is...meh, could be worse! Reading is succeeding.
 
the head-in-sand mentality is frightening, do europeans really not understand what is about to happen to them?
 
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