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Why Europe's Utopian Experiment Is Unraveling

MickeyW

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A couple of years ago, the European Union’s highest court ruled that people and events have the right to be forgotten. Individuals living in the EU can now demand that Google remove certain links in search results, even if they refer to lawful and accurately represented events.

Some thought the EU went too far with this landmark ruling, calling it a monstrous push down the slippery slope from a free society to a censored one. Once you begin that treacherous journey, there’s no turning back.

Actually, that was my position at the time. Still is. But this week, after the latest ISIS-related terror attacks took the lives of at least 30 people and injured hundreds more in Brussels, I understood that the EU was much further along that dark path than I’d originally thought.
Why Europe's Utopian Experiment Is Unraveling | Fox Business
 
That's one reason the EU needs to be so deadhanded: Too many national interests to cover, too may options, too many points of view, too many vested interests and too many madnesses. They try and unite on the madness concept at least but even that falls short.

It was head-in-the-clouds time for unified currencies and open internal borders. Reality comes home to roost and, well, no wonder EU fans can only bluster how everyone else is to blame except them on everything.
 
MickeyW said:
A couple of years ago, the European Union’s highest court ruled that people and events have the right to be forgotten. Individuals living in the EU can now demand that Google remove certain links in search results, even if they refer to lawful and accurately represented events.

Some thought the EU went too far with this landmark ruling, calling it a monstrous push down the slippery slope from a free society to a censored one. Once you begin that treacherous journey, there’s no turning back.

Actually, that was my position at the time. Still is. But this week, after the latest ISIS-related terror attacks took the lives of at least 30 people and injured hundreds more in Brussels, I understood that the EU was much further along that dark path than I’d originally thought.
Why Europe's Utopian Experiment Is Unraveling | Fox Business
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The EU is a mess. This is true for its values and fundamental treaties, its understanding of itself, its misunderstanding of what democracy and rule of law are. There is no question therein, but for how much further damage they will do their populations and the rest of the world before their bluff's final call.
 
David Cameron says the UK is safer in the EU... then a suicide bomb explodes a few hundred meters away from where the unelected EU commission building is. Got to love the establishment.
 
1 - I sure wish I could read a nonpartisan news outlet on this story. It is interesting but obviously full of bias.
2 - What does this have to do with "Business"?

If the story is completely accurate then, no, nobody should be able to censor google searches UNLESS they are personal information that people should not be able to just google (i.e. people should not be able to google pics of my 4 year old just because they know her name or similar things). Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should is becoming less and less a motto on the internet.
I am still interested in the context of the article but that notwithstanding, it is a road no country should go down, censorship for the "betterment" of its citizens.
 
Ntharotep said:
1 - I sure wish I could read a nonpartisan news outlet on this story. It is interesting but obviously full of bias.
2 - What does this have to do with "Business"?

If the story is completely accurate then, no, nobody should be able to censor google searches UNLESS they are personal information that people should not be able to just google (i.e. people should not be able to google pics of my 4 year old just because they know her name or similar things). Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should is becoming less and less a motto on the internet.
I am still interested in the context of the article but that notwithstanding, it is a road no country should go down, censorship for the "betterment" of its citizens.
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There is no such thing as non-partisan news outlet. Each have their own agenda.
 
MickeyW said:
A couple of years ago, the European Union’s highest court ruled that people and events have the right to be forgotten. Individuals living in the EU can now demand that Google remove certain links in search results, even if they refer to lawful and accurately represented events.

Some thought the EU went too far with this landmark ruling, calling it a monstrous push down the slippery slope from a free society to a censored one. Once you begin that treacherous journey, there’s no turning back.

Actually, that was my position at the time. Still is. But this week, after the latest ISIS-related terror attacks took the lives of at least 30 people and injured hundreds more in Brussels, I understood that the EU was much further along that dark path than I’d originally thought.
Why Europe's Utopian Experiment Is Unraveling | Fox Business
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Social democracy in Europe is to blame for Islamic terrorism?
 
As in dilution of European culture and instilling a replacement one where folks are fearful of their own feelings when bad guys strike?

Oh god, yeah! Just like in England where Labour politicians repeatedly colluded to cover over Muslim sex gangs attacking young girls, as calling it out would see other leftards call them racist!

Honestly, that's what happened!
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Social democracy in Europe is to blame for Islamic terrorism?
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No, regressive liberal socialists who are in favor of this failed multicultural experiment are to blame for creating and encouraging the conditions for radical Islam to grow.

Like in Molenbeek the notorious Muslim ghetto where this jihad cell/s are based the socialist mayor admits he did this on purpose. He encouraged and assisted Moroccans to get citizenship just because he knew they vote for government dependency (socialism) therefore securing his job.
Molenbeek ex-mayor defends record after Paris attacks - Yahoo News
 
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As in dilution of European culture and instilling a replacement one where folks are fearful of their own feelings when bad guys strike?

Oh god, yeah! Just like in England where Labour politicians repeatedly colluded to cover over Muslim sex gangs attacking young girls, as calling it out would see other leftards call them racist!

Honestly, that's what happened!
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While the Labour party cries on about everyday sexism while they hold segregated Muslim Labour rallies.

The imams command Mosque attendees to vote Labour because leftists cannot admit ISLAM IS POLITICAL.

The left don't care they just want votes and power and to fulfill their political agenda.
 
'Course it's political. The Koran's mostly about what Muslims should do to be 'good' Muslims as well as how to police everyone else!


One verse in the Hadith has Muhammad order that all 'new converts' be herded into mosques, on pain of being burned alive inside their own houses!

Islam and Burning People Alive | Frontpage Mag

HOLY GOD ON EARTH, MUSLIMS! WHAT IS IT WITH YOU PEOPLE TO BE OK WITH THAT? How on earth is it reasonable for people to discard all scepticism for your horrible death creed?
 
Europe is going through sort of a battered wife syndrome where they justify the violence against them and try to find ways to just blame themselves. We need to put Europe through some counseling. EUROPE IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT, STAND UP TO THIS
 
MickeyW said:
A couple of years ago, the European Union’s highest court ruled that people and events have the right to be forgotten. Individuals living in the EU can now demand that Google remove certain links in search results, even if they refer to lawful and accurately represented events.

Some thought the EU went too far with this landmark ruling, calling it a monstrous push down the slippery slope from a free society to a censored one. Once you begin that treacherous journey, there’s no turning back.

Actually, that was my position at the time. Still is. But this week, after the latest ISIS-related terror attacks took the lives of at least 30 people and injured hundreds more in Brussels, I understood that the EU was much further along that dark path than I’d originally thought.
Why Europe's Utopian Experiment Is Unraveling | Fox Business
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What the **** does the censorship ruling have to do with being attacked by terrorists ?

Do you realize that we were attacked by terrorists ?
 
It's all intertwined with freedom and what we can do with any remnants.

Read my topic about that guy being arrested, for either probing for knowledge of grassroots understanding of sensitive issues... or being a dick, if you believe leftists.
 
PakPuk said:
No, regressive liberal socialists who are in favor of this failed multicultural experiment are to blame for creating and encouraging the conditions for radical Islam to grow.

Like in Molenbeek the notorious Muslim ghetto where this jihad cell/s are based the socialist mayor admits he did this on purpose. He encouraged and assisted Moroccans to get citizenship just because he knew they vote for government dependency (socialism) therefore securing his job.
Molenbeek ex-mayor defends record after Paris attacks - Yahoo News
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:thumbs:

PakPuk said:
While the Labour party cries on about everyday sexism while they hold segregated Muslim Labour rallies.

The imams command Mosque attendees to vote Labour because leftists cannot admit ISLAM IS POLITICAL.

The left don't care they just want votes and power and to fulfill their political agenda.
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Sounds just like the US Democrats....;)
 
And over here. One of Tony Blair's right hands, Andrew Neather, confessed about 'Rubbing the Right's nose in Diversity', by Labour flooding the place withmillions of variable quality incomers just for that juicy, sweet Labour vote.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - The liberals and left ARE Pathological Demand Avoidance! They are walking behavioural disorders!




The main features of PDA are:

* resists and avoids the ordinary demands of life

* appearing sociable, but lacking depth in understanding

* excessive mood swings and impulsivity

* comfortable in role play and pretend, sometimes to an extreme extent

* obsessive behaviour, often focussed on people.
 
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And over here. One of Tony Blair's right hands, Andrew Neather, confessed about 'Rubbing the Right's nose in Diversity', by Labour flooding the place withmillions of variable quality incomers just for that juicy, sweet Labour vote.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - The liberals and left ARE Pathological Demand Avoidance! They are walking behavioural disorders!




The main features of PDA are:

* resists and avoids the ordinary demands of life

* appearing sociable, but lacking depth in understanding

* excessive mood swings and impulsivity

* comfortable in role play and pretend, sometimes to an extreme extent

* obsessive behaviour, often focussed on people.
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Fear of Firearms and firearm owners, by liberals, fits that narrative to a T..........
 
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Too many national interests to cover, too may options, too many points of view, too many vested interests and too many madnesses. They try and unite on the madness concept at least but even that falls short.
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Says someone that I presume is from the United States?
 
No country holds a monopoly on foolishness
 
The EU is a fool's experience, yes. There was enough trouble balancing the first few national interests, never mind nearly twenty. And when Turkey comes in, we're not even Europe any more.

The wider you spread, the more compromise you have and the less accountability to publics.
 
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