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Muslim Ghettos Breed Terrorism

Where the hell am I justifying anything? I am pointing out that poverty and discrimination breeds crime.. it is just a fact. Does it justify the crime ? Of course not.. only an idiot would think that.

many people have zero understanding of group dynamics or psychology which is why their opinions are frequently laced with inference, anger, fear and loathing
 
I love how it's everything but the core belief system of the religion in question.
but it isn't everything else but the core belief system of the religion in question it is complex and there are many contributing factors...if yahoos such as those in this thread had the answers we wouldn't be in this mess

but they don't
 
I see.. but the problem is that "ideological/political crime" are not treated the same especially by people like you. When a Muslim does something then it is terror, but when a Christian does the exact same then it is not.

Case in point. Jared Lee Loughner.. killed because of politics.. that is absolutely clear and yet to this day it is not terror. He was sick is the most common excuse? Why is that? Oh yea he was a right wing fanatic that committed terror so it aint terror right?

Or Brevik. I can clearly remember the debate on these boards. He is a Christian terrorist, and yet most right wing Americans could not say that.

As for poverty breeds crime.. the very fact that you are in denial of this and that you go out of your way to deflect it when it comes to Muslims who grow up in poverty.. shows the true nature of your hatred against Muslims and you hypocrisy. It is ironic that when gangs in the US or Mexico commit horrors, then they are not labeled terrorists, but had it been Muslims.. oh boy..
The difference between various Christian lone nuts and the Muslim terrorists should be obvious: the latter operate as an organized group. Someone engineered those suicide belts, chose the targets, picked the time, coordinated the efforts and then pointed the fanatic in the right direction.

Your denial borders on being an outright lie.
 
I see.. but the problem is that "ideological/political crime" are not treated the same especially by people like you. When a Muslim does something then it is terror, but when a Christian does the exact same then it is not.

Case in point. Jared Lee Loughner.. killed because of politics.. that is absolutely clear and yet to this day it is not terror. He was sick is the most common excuse? Why is that? Oh yea he was a right wing fanatic that committed terror so it aint terror right?

Or Brevik. I can clearly remember the debate on these boards. He is a Christian terrorist, and yet most right wing Americans could not say that.

As for poverty breeds crime.. the very fact that you are in denial of this and that you go out of your way to deflect it when it comes to Muslims who grow up in poverty.. shows the true nature of your hatred against Muslims and you hypocrisy. It is ironic that when gangs in the US or Mexico commit horrors, then they are not labeled terrorists, but had it been Muslims.. oh boy..
because that type of ghetto hasn't touched their lives up until now...terrorism has and will

interesting point actually when you analyze it

but the same contempt would be felt
 
Why can't a terrorist be mentally ill.
Brevik BTW shows up in the terror statistics.

terrorists 'might' be mentally ill

mostly they are just programmed

programming people is an interesting and complex process too but they must first be vulnerable to programming or made vulnerable to programming
 
because that type of ghetto hasn't touched their lives up until now...terrorism has and will

Just so we're clear, you're saying I don't consider gang wars in Mexico to be terrorism because it hasn't touched my life?
And not because, you know, it isn't terrorism and isn't even a political/ideological crime to begin with?
Is that it?
 
Just so we're clear, you're saying I don't consider gang wars in Mexico to be terrorism because it hasn't touched my life?
And not because, you know, it isn't terrorism and isn't even a political/ideological crime to begin with?
Is that it?

no that isn't what I am saying at ALL

read the second comment to the OP, then combine them and that should make the level of comprehension on the understanding of human dynamics VERY clear
 
no that isn't what I am saying at ALL

Then be more clear next time since I don't see how you can interpret it otherwise when you are replying to a comment by Pete in reply to my post where he's saying that it's hypocritical I don't consider gang wars in Mexico to be terrorism, by saying it is so because it hasn't touched my life the way terrorism has.

So I take it you do realize that gang wars in Mexico aren't terrorism?

read the second comment to the OP, then combine them and that should make the level of comprehension on the understanding of human dynamics VERY clear

..What?
 
your level of comprehension is peeking out of your pants ;)

I comprehend just fine thank you. Remind me, what exactly are you offering to this discussion?
 
The difference between various Christian lone nuts and the Muslim terrorists should be obvious: the latter operate as an organized group. Someone engineered those suicide belts, chose the targets, picked the time, coordinated the efforts and then pointed the fanatic in the right direction.

Your denial borders on being an outright lie.

So you are saying that because the well known Christian terrorists are "lone nuts" then that is some how different to Muslim terrorists? Are they not terrorists?

And Christians also organise in terrorist organisations... we just often dont call them that. I would claim that the Mexican gangs presently pushing a reign of terror in Mexico and parts of the US, are in fact terrorist organisations. Then there is Lords Resistance Army in Uganda.. or one could argue the Anti-Abortion movement in the US or the radical green movement.. both have used bombs and killing to further their political views. Both are mostly Christian and especially the Anti-Abortion movement is religiously motivated.

Yes the "muslims" are more organized, but does that excuse others for committing similar acts of terror just because they are not as oppressed and have not "yet" organised into what we know as ISIS or AL Q today?

What is a problem is that we categorize criminal acts by Muslims automatically as terror, but when a non-muslim does the exact same thing.. then no it is not.. it is hypocrisy and damages the war against actual terror and the people who think it is justified for personal, economic, religious or political reasons to commit acts of crime that terrorise people.
 
Why can't a terrorist be mentally ill.

I would say all are mentally ill.

Brevik BTW shows up in the terror statistics.

Yes in Europe he does. But I clearly remember the debate on these boards and the American media.. they almost never called him what he was..
 
What? Are you saying terror is a core belief of Islam?



I'm saying objectively, that every time an islamic country is set up, women, gays, and non muslim rights get oppressed....


In police work, they call that a "clue".



Mysoginism, homophopia, are a big part of thie religion, yes.
 
but it isn't everything else but the core belief system of the religion in question it is complex and there are many contributing factors...if yahoos such as those in this thread had the answers we wouldn't be in this mess

but they don't




I have a solution.


withdraw from the mideast. let them set up thier barbaric caliphate and don't buy oil form them. *shrug*
 
So you are saying that because the well known Christian terrorists are "lone nuts" then that is some how different to Muslim terrorists? Are they not terrorists?

And Christians also organise in terrorist organisations... we just often dont call them that. I would claim that the Mexican gangs presently pushing a reign of terror in Mexico and parts of the US, are in fact terrorist organisations. Then there is Lords Resistance Army in Uganda.. or one could argue the Anti-Abortion movement in the US or the radical green movement.. both have used bombs and killing to further their political views. Both are mostly Christian and especially the Anti-Abortion movement is religiously motivated.

Yes the "muslims" are more organized, but does that excuse others for committing similar acts of terror just because they are not as oppressed and have not "yet" organised into what we know as ISIS or AL Q today?

What is a problem is that we categorize criminal acts by Muslims automatically as terror, but when a non-muslim does the exact same thing.. then no it is not.. it is hypocrisy and damages the war against actual terror and the people who think it is justified for personal, economic, religious or political reasons to commit acts of crime that terrorise people.

You're digging pretty deep to justify your Muslim love there, Pete. To date, very few groups will kill people over cartoons, like Muslims do. And, no religion except Islam calls for the death of apostates. Although, I agree some criminal organizations do kill those who try to leave. So, I'll agree with you that Islam can be compared to a criminal organization. :)
 
I'm saying objectively, that every time an islamic country is set up, women, gays, and non muslim rights get oppressed....

In police work, they call that a "clue".

Mysoginism, homophopia, are a big part of thie religion, yes.

Eh when was an "Islamic state" set up recently? And no the ISIS controlled area is not a state. Do countries where Islam is part of the political sphere and traditional aspect... do they do bad things? Sure. But so do Christian nations.. the more religious the worse they are in many ways. The Vatican is hardly a tolerant place. Uganda, where American evangelicals have been able to push for death to gays.. so spare the anti-Islam bull****. The problem is not Islam, it is religion.

And women and gays have been and are oppressed in a considerable number of Christian countries. One could argue that your own country is one of the abusers.. even on "non-Muslim" rights argument, considering what your hero Drumpf has been spewing of hate speech.
 
I have a solution.


withdraw from the mideast. let them set up thier barbaric caliphate and don't buy oil form them. *shrug*


The oil is going to run low anyway. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow. But soon. Then this whole Axis Of Evil will truly lose a great deal of its potency and prominence, with barbaric Islamic dictatorships sliding back into the dunes. International diplomacy will just pass them right on by, with even declining numbers of liberals willing to defend their cultures. There'll be other things to talk about.


And yes, we are back to liberals simply ignoring the reality of murderous creeds and cults. Islam directly drives these religious nuts in desert clothing, while 'Christian' terrorists misappropriate Jesus for the things they were going to do anyway.

Indeed, we still have to cover the sme old ground. I honestly think their counterparts in the parallel universe spend all day denying Nazi war atrocities. (Well, having said that, many of them are right here, in Labour, denying stuff that's very similar!)
 
I have a solution.


withdraw from the mideast. let them set up thier barbaric caliphate and don't buy oil form them. *shrug*

On this issue, I almost have to agree with Trump: Take their oil and kill the ones who complain.

(not serious)
 
Then be more clear next time since I don't see how you can interpret it otherwise when you are replying to a comment by Pete in reply to my post where he's saying that it's hypocritical I don't consider gang wars in Mexico to be terrorism, by saying it is so because it hasn't touched my life the way terrorism has.

So I take it you do realize that gang wars in Mexico aren't terrorism?



..What?
your comprehension is NOT my problem...I was replying to PETE

when I address you, I will address you

hope that is clear

gang wars in Mexico don't concern me

people in ghettos do

you are missing HIS point too
 
your comprehension is NOT my problem...I was replying to PETE

when I address you, I will address you

hope that is clear

gang wars in Mexico don't concern me

people in ghettos do

you are missing HIS point too

No, it is absolutely not clear. I'm not missing anything and I certainly have no reading comprehension problems and I have made it clear that what you said and the way you replied to his words that were addressing me left no room for any misunderstanding.

What is clear is that your understanding of the English language is pretty much nonexistant, and that generally speaking you're a very strange and confused individual. Please do see that you never address me again, not by replying to my own posts or to parts of posts of other posters that are referring to me specifically, my supposed positions and my supposed attitudes thank you very much. ;)
 
No, it is absolutely not clear. I'm not missing anything and I certainly have no reading comprehension problems and I have made it clear that what you said and the way you replied to his words that were addressing me left no room for any misunderstanding.

What is clear is that your understanding of the English language is pretty much nonexistant, and that generally speaking you're a very strange and confused individual. Please do see that you never address me again, not by replying to my own posts or to parts of posts of other posters that are referring to me specifically, my supposed positions and my supposed attitudes thank you very much. ;)
then put me on ignore, go back to your gang and have some peace of mind that you are right

easy peasy dude

peace out
 
Dont forget the 'fool' Bishop Nazir Ali who complained of Muslim no-go zones in his locality, or when Gordon Brown pathetically said that he didn't accept that there were no go areas in Britain.

There are indeed places where even police fear to tread without heavy backup. No thugs should rule, especially where religiously motivated or merely given to desecration of war memorials.

Same is true in Sweden. Two of my nephews are para medics, one in in Stockholm and one in my local city, Uppsala. In both their are defined areas where they are not allowed to drive their ambulances without police cars in support. Even with police presence they run the risk of being stoned by gangs of immigrant youths.
 
And PeteEU blames being potless.

Well I suppose he'd know, what with his favourite people involved with the Eurozone floppiness and stuff.
 
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