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French voters call for FREXIT

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Maybe I should have added Netherlands and the Czech Republic, though I suspect others may also want a say on their EU membership.

The biggest fear the EU possesses is Brexit. Should the UK exit the bloc and show that there is life beyond the EU, I do not think it a far stretch to say others will follow. All it takes is that first domino, and others will fall one after another. Note this is pure speculation on my part, so, let us wait and see what happens.
 
Yep, I think we could be living in a post-EU era soon.
 
For the life of me I cannot understand the mostly right wing hatred For the EU.

It's a great idea, not without its problems mind you, but an idea worth fighting for, improving and preserving.
 
Well, looks like all the soft-soap about the EU 'needing' us to survive was right.

Pity they didn't 'need' us enough to hand over decent rebates or not bully nations into handing over sovereignty.

All we wanted was a European Economic Community, as originally advertised.
 
For the life of me I cannot understand the mostly right wing hatred For the EU.
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Something to do with sovereignty and full political and economic union for proud fully-formed member states.

Funny how people get tetchy when PC people take those freedoms away; right, citizens of the ex-Eastern Bloc territories?!
 
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Well, looks like all the soft-soap about the EU 'needing' us to survive was right.

Pity they didn't 'need' us enough to hand over decent rebates or not bully nations into handing over sovereignty.

All we wanted was a European Economic Community, as originally advertised.
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You do know that we don't need to get rid of the EU to give nations back their sovereignty, right?
 
The issue's not about getting rid of it but leaving its opt-in rule.

Something we hit all kinds of road blocks in trying to do. Threats of the sky caving in and such. Having to pay for the privilege of trading with the Germans. You know, all that kind of fairness we can credit the EU for.

And this whole issue of EU reform for renogotiated sovereignty is something both main parties struggled to do, and at which today's government will fail at too, I shouldn't wonder.
 
Well, I'm not French but I'd still like a crate of Freixenet.
 
A European Union that cave whenever Turks blackmail her is just worthless!
 
I never had a problem with the EU personally. It seemed like a situation where the whiners in the U.S. should have kept their noses out of it.
 
Jetboogieman said:
For the life of me I cannot understand the mostly right wing hatred For the EU.

It's a great idea, not without its problems mind you, but an idea worth fighting for, improving and preserving.
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I never had a problem with the EU personally. It seemed like a situation where the whiners in the U.S. should have kept their noses out of it, although I never saw it as a great idea as exemplified but Germans mostly financing the bailout of Greece.
 
Jetboogieman said:
For the life of me I cannot understand the mostly right wing hatred For the EU.

It's a great idea, not without its problems mind you, but an idea worth fighting for, improving and preserving.
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The reason they oppose it is that it makes a convenient boogeyman. The EU is big and not many people know how it works or how it affects them, which makes it ripe to blame everything and anything on, even though it may not even have anything to do with it. They can say it is nothing wrong with "insert EU nation here", it is the EU that is causing everything bad to happen. That kind of no fault of our own rhetoric is why these far-right parties are popular and blaming the EU works. Many people fail to realize how much of an impact the EU has on their lives. The EU falling part would be disastrous for not only Europe, but the world. Getting rid of the EU or even the Euro would be the quickest way to plunge the world into another depression.
 
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~ All we wanted was a European Economic Community, as originally advertised.
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Wow, something I can agree with you on at last. Unfortunately for this argument, when we voted for membership of the EEC, the intricacies of the Treaty of Rome were never publicised by those here in the UK to the voting population. The rest of Europe was pretty clear on what EEC membership would lead to but we (the population) were blithely ignorant.
 
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