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Reasons to stay in the EU thread [W:20]

Infinite Chaos

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OK there's two other discussion threads where hopefully people will pick apart / disagree / support the case for the thread title. What would be ideal is posting reasons so that others (even non forum members can be informed).

No guarantee people will read this request but I won't be responding to quotes in this thread - just hoping I and others can respect the thread title.

If you want to post reasons for leaving - use this thread.

If you wish to discuss how you would vote now - use this thread.

If you want to discuss things more specifically - use this thread.
 
Anthony Hilton said:
I once asked Rupert Murdoch why he was so opposed to the European Union. “That’s easy,” he replied. “When I go into Downing Street they do what I say; when I go to Brussels they take no notice.” Link.
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I think what that suggests is the power of grouping 28 countries together to stand against pressure groups and possible insider influencers as Rupert Murdoch.
 
Access to the single market. No matter what Farage et al might claim, there is no guarantee that exiting the EU would not mean leaving the single market.
 
If Europe got their act together, and formed a European military.
 
Regional development funds ensure money is spent developing the regions: no guarantee if we left that Westminster would spend the same amount of money on Cornwall, Wales etc etc.
 
copying this one over from the thread where Obama interference got derailed by British fisheries issues
Chagos said:
Far be it from me to quote anything as being totally objective on the matter of Bremain vs. Brexit (heck, which outlet is?), for some less rubbishy look this one does a fairly good job at trying to see both sides.

Fairly good considering the circumstance of not being free of financial and economic interests either.

P.S. seeing how it's actually better off in the both leave and stay threads (stickies), I'll post it in those as well.
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Andalublue said:
Access to the single market. No matter what Farage et al might claim, there is no guarantee that exiting the EU would not mean leaving the single market.
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There are no facts supporting the UK could NOT do better after Brexit either, though the fear campaign by in camp show they are just fear mongering, and I included a number of posts within threads supporting that very point. Boeing are making their HQ in UK regardless of whether the UK exits the block or not. The same can be said for Avon who are moving their HQ from USA to UK stating the same thing. Honda had invested over £billion in UK, and invested a further £200 million this year, as they expand operations, again, stating they would continue regardless of UK EU membership.
 
Phoenix One UK said:
There are no facts supporting the UK could NOT do better after Brexit either, though the fear campaign by in camp show they are just fear mongering, and I included a number of posts within threads supporting that very point. Boeing are making their HQ in UK regardless of whether the UK exits the block or not. The same can be said for Avon who are moving their HQ from USA to UK stating the same thing. Honda had invested over £billion in UK, and invested a further £200 million this year, as they expand operations, again, stating they would continue regardless of UK EU membership.
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Show some courtesy to the OP and try to abide by what is asked.

Reading #1 will help.
 
Phoenix One UK said:
Did read it. Hence, the reason for post. There are conflicts with what is and what is speculated.
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What's so bloody difficult in understanding this?
Infinite Chaos said:
OK there's two other discussion threads where hopefully people will pick apart / disagree / support the case for the thread title. What would be ideal is posting reasons so that others (even non forum members can be informed).

No guarantee people will read this request but I won't be responding to quotes in this thread - just hoping I and others can respect the thread title.

If you want to post reasons for leaving - use this thread.

If you wish to discuss how you would vote now - use this thread.

If you want to discuss things more specifically - use this thread.
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A thread for posting reasons to stay is helpfully supplied, a thread for stating reasons to leave is and one for discussing specifics is.

All the OP asks is that neither this thread nor the "leave thread" be turned into the usual argumentative brawl room.

No can you get that into yer noggin'?
 
Chagos said:
What's so bloody difficult in understanding this?
A thread for posting reasons to stay is helpfully supplied, a thread for stating reasons to leave is and one for discussing specifics is.

All the OP asks is that neither this thread nor the "leave thread" be turned into the usual argumentative brawl room.

No can you get that into yer noggin'?
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There is a big difference between posting a reason to stay and propaganda. As for how I would vote, I already responded to that one. I will be voting out. As for third option, no way. Some deserve their own threads rather than becoming lost within a one-size-fit-all policy. Hmm, kind of reminds me of EZ.
 
Chagos said:
What's so bloody difficult in understanding this?
A thread for posting reasons to stay is helpfully supplied, a thread for stating reasons to leave is and one for discussing specifics is.
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I tried Chagos - but like the old saying horses, water etc etc. Some just don't read.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
I tried Chagos - but like the old saying horses, water etc etc. Some just don't read.
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Oh they read all right. It's when it comes to comprehension that things appear to go South with some.

Ah well, never mind ;)
 
Phoenix One UK said:
Would that apply to thread on other side of debate? .[/snip]
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since you've probably missed it, here's a copy from there.

Just for you.
Chagos said:
OK, apologies to Infinite Chaos.

This isn't really the thread for this kind of exchange, even where it started in calling someone on their lack of manners and courtesy.

Again, sorry. My oversight.
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CBI report: Brexit to cost "could be as much as 5% of GDP and 950,000 jobs by 2020."

In a free trade scenario, PwC said average annual growth would be 2.7% between 2021 and 2025, and an average of 2.3% in the years to 2030.
In a WTO agreement, average annual GDP growth would be 2.6% between 2021 and 2025 and 2.4% up to 2030, forecast PwC.

By 2020, PwC said it expected employment to reach 32.2 million but it could fall by 550,000 in the free trade scenario and by 950,000 in a WTO agreement.
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I'll post Vote Leave's counter~claims in the reasons to leave thread.
 
Because Obysmal said so..
 
Moderator's Warning:
Any more attempted derailments will receive consequences and this will be the only warning given. Thanks for understanding.
 
The International Monetary Fund chief has said a vote by the UK to leave the European Union would have "pretty bad, to very, very bad" consequences.
Christine Lagarde said she had "not seen anything that's positive" about Brexit and warned that it could "lead to a technical recession". Link.
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From the IMF.

The Bank of England has given its starkest warning yet that a UK vote to leave the EU could hit the economy.
Mark Carney, the Bank's governor, warned that the risks of leaving "could possibly include a technical recession". Link.
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From the Bank of England.
 
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