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Sweden Democrats make a nice Welcome to Sweden video

Beginning to sound more and more like a open bigot here... "Purity" :roll:


Explain to me. How does the swedish economic model, which essentially is social democracy, is dependent upon "ethnic/national purity"?

Don't shoot the messenger, it tends to eliminate the credibility of the trigger puller.

According to the latest statistics, the population breaks down as follows:

SWEDEN : general data

ethnic groups: Swedish 89,3%; Finn & Sami (Lapp) 3%; Yugoslav 0,8%; Iranian 0,6%; other 6,3%.

Contained in other literature, the Swedish Economic Model depends on a similarity in cultural objectives and interactions. With 90% of the population "Swedes", and the other 10% comprising all other cultural/ethnic groups, the homogenous demographic seen in the population mix is likely something many want to protect in order to maintain the social construct they have come to expect.
 
Don't shoot the messenger, it tends to eliminate the credibility of the trigger puller.

According to the latest statistics, the population breaks down as follows:

SWEDEN : general data

ethnic groups: Swedish 89,3%; Finn & Sami (Lapp) 3%; Yugoslav 0,8%; Iranian 0,6%; other 6,3%.

Contained in other literature, the Swedish Economic Model depends on a similarity in cultural objectives and interactions. With 90% of the population "Swedes", and the other 10% comprising all other cultural/ethnic groups, the homogenous demographic seen in the population mix is likely something many want to protect in order to maintain the social construct they have come to expect.

"According to a 2012 survey there were 1 473 256 foreign born within the country making up 15% of the population"
Fortsatt ökning av utrikes födda i Sverige

15% of the country is foreigners.. Thats more than percentage of US population who are immigrants (13%)... Really not buying this, Swedish model relies on the ethnic/national unity/"purity" argument or whatever it is...
 
"According to a 2012 survey there were 1 473 256 foreign born within the country making up 15% of the population"
Fortsatt ökning av utrikes födda i Sverige

15% of the country is foreigners.. Thats more than percentage of US population who are immigrants (13%)... Really not buying this, Swedish model relies on the ethnic/national unity/"purity" argument or whatever it is...

Ok. Don't buy it.

Sweden: A Role Model for Capitalist Reform? | Newgeography.com

Between 1870 and 1936, the start of the Social Democratic Era, Sweden had the highest growth rate in the industrialized world. In contrast, between 1936 and 2008 the growth rate was merely the 18th highest of 28 industrialized nations.

Second, more attention needs to be paid to social and cultural factors. This reflects factors such as the Lutheran work ethic and the cohesion of a largely homogeneous population with particular social values. The perceived advantage of Swedes over other countries rose before the rise of the welfare state. In 1950, before the rise of the high-tax welfare state, Swedes lived 2.6 years longer than Americans. Today the difference is 2.7 years. Sweden’s lower income inequality also stems back to at least the 1920s.

 
Ok. Don't buy it.

Sweden: A Role Model for Capitalist Reform? | Newgeography.com

Between 1870 and 1936, the start of the Social Democratic Era, Sweden had the highest growth rate in the industrialized world. In contrast, between 1936 and 2008 the growth rate was merely the 18th highest of 28 industrialized nations.

Second, more attention needs to be paid to social and cultural factors. This reflects factors such as the Lutheran work ethic and the cohesion of a largely homogeneous population with particular social values. The perceived advantage of Swedes over other countries rose before the rise of the welfare state. In 1950, before the rise of the high-tax welfare state, Swedes lived 2.6 years longer than Americans. Today the difference is 2.7 years. Sweden’s lower income inequality also stems back to at least the 1920s.


Little confused here. The social democratic era started according to the author "between 1870 and 1936" but the "high tax welfare state" didnt exist until the 1950's? Social democracy means a large welfare state... I mean during Per Albin Hansson reign as PM during the 30's and 40's such as "subsidised dental care, income-tested child allowances for invalidity pensioners and widows, maternity allowances through voluntary sickness insurance, and a 1935 law that introduced state subsidies for the construction of apartment houses for families with three of more children, combined with housing allowances for families with more than two children living in these houses", and also during Tage Erlander premiership during the 1940's universal healthcare was expanded, union controlled by state funded unemployment funds, universal housing expanded.

Also... Tax rates had several increases before the 50's....
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I think it has more to do with this: "Scandinavia was also not alone in developing comprehensive social welfare systems in the twentieth century. Across Western Europe, the kernel of a social compromise around the building of universal welfare institutions emerged in the early twentieth century in step with the rise of organized labor movements.. In the aftermath of World War II, European elites, wary of a radicalized workforce and the rise of Soviet Communism, found it necessary to compromise with labor in order to retain the capitalist system. This resulted in rapidly rising real wages and the building of social welfare institutions in all of US-controlled Western Europe, helped along by Marshall Aid and generous access to the American market.

Here again, Scandinavia conformed to the general West European trend. But this new model of social capitalism took a more radical form here than elsewhere. Under the hegemony of strong social-democratic parties, redistribution and welfare provisions in areas such as health care, education, transport, and housing reached an extent not seen anywhere else in Europe.

This was to a large degree the product of uniquely strong labor movements, politically empowered by robust alliances with social-democratic parties. Labor managed to achieve political hegemony by forging alliances with other popular movements supporting egalitarianism and democratization, most notably the peasant-based corporative movement and the women’s movement after the 1970s." https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/08/national-review-williamson-bernie-sanders-sweden/

Not some cultural unity or what not..
 
Little confused here. The social democratic era started according to the author "between 1870 and 1936" but the "high tax welfare state" didnt exist until the 1950's? Social democracy means a large welfare state... I mean during Per Albin Hansson reign as PM during the 30's and 40's such as "subsidised dental care, income-tested child allowances for invalidity pensioners and widows, maternity allowances through voluntary sickness insurance, and a 1935 law that introduced state subsidies for the construction of apartment houses for families with three of more children, combined with housing allowances for families with more than two children living in these houses", and also during Tage Erlander premiership during the 1940's universal healthcare was expanded, union controlled by state funded unemployment funds, universal housing expanded.

Also... Tax rates had several increases before the 50's....
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I think it has more to do with this: "Scandinavia was also not alone in developing comprehensive social welfare systems in the twentieth century. Across Western Europe, the kernel of a social compromise around the building of universal welfare institutions emerged in the early twentieth century in step with the rise of organized labor movements.. In the aftermath of World War II, European elites, wary of a radicalized workforce and the rise of Soviet Communism, found it necessary to compromise with labor in order to retain the capitalist system. This resulted in rapidly rising real wages and the building of social welfare institutions in all of US-controlled Western Europe, helped along by Marshall Aid and generous access to the American market.

Here again, Scandinavia conformed to the general West European trend. But this new model of social capitalism took a more radical form here than elsewhere. Under the hegemony of strong social-democratic parties, redistribution and welfare provisions in areas such as health care, education, transport, and housing reached an extent not seen anywhere else in Europe.

This was to a large degree the product of uniquely strong labor movements, politically empowered by robust alliances with social-democratic parties. Labor managed to achieve political hegemony by forging alliances with other popular movements supporting egalitarianism and democratization, most notably the peasant-based corporative movement and the women’s movement after the 1970s." https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/08/national-review-williamson-bernie-sanders-sweden/

Not some cultural unity or what not..

I'm not sure where your heading here. I'm not questioning the Swedish Welfare State, or it's origins. I've been commenting on the concerns Swedes have for the continuity and purpose of the government and economic structure they have created.

There are many articles on the matter, but the operative sentence in the one I offered was in bold. Here it is again:

"Second, more attention needs to be paid to social and cultural factors. This reflects factors such as the Lutheran work ethic and the cohesion of a largely homogeneous population with particular social values."​

As has been observed by countless numbers of researchers and economists, the Swedish Economic Model, as well as other Nordic Models, have counted on the homogenious population to maintain the work ethic and social contract from the State.

As I have been pointing out, there appears many in Sweden who are concerned migrants aren't interested in assimilation, just accommodation, which could threaten the social structure and fabric Swedes have created for themselves.

If you care, you can comment on that. That is all I am commenting on.
 
I'm not sure where your heading here. I'm not questioning the Swedish Welfare State, or it's origins. I've been commenting on the concerns Swedes have for the continuity and purpose of the government and economic structure they have created.

There are many articles on the matter, but the operative sentence in the one I offered was in bold. Here it is again:

"Second, more attention needs to be paid to social and cultural factors. This reflects factors such as the Lutheran work ethic and the cohesion of a largely homogeneous population with particular social values."​

As has been observed by countless numbers of researchers and economists, the Swedish Economic Model, as well as other Nordic Models, have counted on the homogenious population to maintain the work ethic and social contract from the State.

As I have been pointing out, there appears many in Sweden who are concerned migrants aren't interested in assimilation, just accommodation, which could threaten the social structure and fabric Swedes have created for themselves.

If you care, you can comment on that. That is all I am commenting on.

I mean, if this is true, the Swedes are less "homogenous" than us. They have a larger foreigner population than the USA....
 
I mean, if this is true, the Swedes are less "homogenous" than us. They have a larger foreigner population than the USA....

Yes. And it's growing, which appears to be of a concern to many Swedes who see such a trend as a threat to the future of the socialist society they have created.
 
Yes. And it's growing, which appears to be of a concern to many Swedes who see such a trend as a threat to the future of the socialist society they have created.

Not socialist, they are a social democracy. Im just failing to see how this homogenous argument works, its not like the Swedish economy is anywhere near the verge of collapse.... Unemployment is trending down, GDP is going up, GDP per capita is going up. Just failing to see this argument and any evidence..
 
Not socialist, they are a social democracy. Im just failing to see how this homogenous argument works, its not like the Swedish economy is anywhere near the verge of collapse.... Unemployment is trending down, GDP is going up, GDP per capita is going up. Just failing to see this argument and any evidence..

Sweden Will Seriously Restrict the Number of Refugees It Accepts

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/behind-swedens-warm-welcome-for-refugees-a-backlash-is-brewing/2015/10/17/b5f4110c-661d-11e5-bdb6-6861f4521205_story.html
 
What does this have to do anything with their economy and its strength and success as a social democracy and that being directly related to being a "homogenous" population?

It would appear you are unable to remain within the context of the comments I have posted. As such, I don't see any reason to continue our discussion. Happy Thanksgiving.
 
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