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Germany: EU migrant crisis fuels biggest rise in Nazism since Adolf Hitler

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Germany: EU migrant crisis fuels biggest rise in Nazism since Adolf Hitler

THE huge number of migrants flooding into Germany has sparked a terrifying neo-Nazi revival which is threatening to plunge the country into anarchy, it was claimed today.

Police in the besieged nation have been confronted with its worst period of violence and civil unrest since the days of Hitler's Nazis as anger over Angela Merkel's open door policy reaches boiling point.

Moderate politicians have been drowned out at rallies and one was even stabbed in the throat by a neo-Nazi madman, leading a top German magazine to declare: "The hate is back."

Security sources in Germany, which has taken in more migrants and refugees than any other European country, say they have seen a sharp rise in violence linked to right-wing extremism in recent weeks.

EU migrant crisis: Arrival of refugees in Germany 'fuelling rise in neo-Nazi violence' | World | News | Daily Express

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I do not agree with headline, and can understand the reasons behind many people rising against what they see as an invasion and threat to their way of life, and not in just Germany. Protests against the continuing invasion of migrants/refugees are becoming more common throughout Europe.

Statements from EU said the refugee/migrant crisis may result in bringing an end to EU. There are many, including myself, who would like nothing better than seeing the EU custom union put in the dustbin where it belongs, but not like this.
 
I think that Merkel used the open doors policy because she believed that multiculturalism such as what we see here with Neo-Nazies failed in Deutchland before. She may have thought that putting desperate assertive non-Deutch people in the country with such numbers may change the direction multiculturalism over there.

It was only a matter of time Neo-Nazies would come up front. At least now they can be dealt with properly out in the open.
 
Another nonsense article by the Daily Express. Their mass rape story regarding refugees in camps has yet to be proven.
 
Before I read this, let me get a bag of salt first.
 
Phoenix One UK said:
................I do not agree with headline..........
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Not only that, it's a load of bumph in its whole content.

Alone to say it's the worst case of violence since the days of Hitler is ridiculous.

NeoNazis are on a roller coaster in Germany and always have been. Ups and downs depending on which opportunities present themselves.

At this one they're obviously dancing with glee, that doesn't put them on the rise, just gives them more presence.
 
Phoenix One UK said:
Germany: EU migrant crisis fuels biggest rise in Nazism since Adolf Hitler. THE huge number of migrants flooding into Germany has sparked a terrifying neo-Nazi revival which is threatening to plunge the country into anarchy, it was claimed today. Police in the besieged nation have been confronted with its worst period of violence and civil unrest since the days of Hitler's Nazis as anger over Angela Merkel's open door policy reaches boiling point. Moderate politicians have been drowned out at rallies and one was even stabbed in the throat by a neo-Nazi madman, leading a top German magazine to declare: "The hate is back." Security sources in Germany, which has taken in more migrants and refugees than any other European country, say they have seen a sharp rise in violence linked to right-wing extremism in recent weeks. EU migrant crisis: Arrival of refugees in Germany 'fuelling rise in neo-Nazi violence' | World | News | Daily Express


I do not agree with headline, and can understand the reasons behind many people rising against what they see as an invasion and threat to their way of life, and not in just Germany. Protests against the continuing invasion of migrants/refugees are becoming more common throughout Europe. Statements from EU said the refugee/migrant crisis may result in bringing an end to EU. There are many, including myself, who would like nothing better than seeing the EU custom union put in the dustbin where it belongs, but not like this.
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The term 'neo-Nazi' has been rather poorly applied over the years until it has become a symbol of any sort of political disagreement. The stabbing of innocents by Muslims has occurred in Sweden, Canada, the US, Germany and, of course, Israel.

Would these Muslims be 'neo-Nazis' also?
 
Grant said:
The term 'neo-Nazi' has been rather poorly applied over the years until it has become a symbol of any sort of political disagreement. The stabbing of innocents by Muslims has occurred in Sweden, Canada, the US, Germany and, of course, Israel.

Would these Muslims be 'neo-Nazis' also?
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Good question, as I had seen the term 'neo-Nazi' applied often in UK and other member states. I also noted Muslims are referred to as if they are a race. They are not, it is a religion. As for references to Express, I should mention the Express is not the only publication running such articles, though they all refer to two German publications, and I would advise reading what those publications say. As for attacks, I do not see this or any debating forum as court of law, and that equally applies to any publications. Further, I should add that such attacks are not limited to Muslim community, though a clash of cultures can result in violence. Seen it first hand enough times myself.
 
Phoenix One UK said:
As for references to Express, I should mention the Express is not the only publication running such articles, though they all refer to two German publications, and I would advise reading what those publications say.
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Please provide the other sources for these articles. Don't even bother using the Daily Mail, as it's the same xenophobic trash as the Daily Express.
 
le bouffon said:
Please provide the other sources for these articles. Don't even bother using the Daily Mail, as it's the same xenophobic trash as the Daily Express.
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I did say German publications, and the Daily Mail is not a German publication, though I understand it also referred to same sources, one of which is Der Spiegel.
 
Attacks on refugees: Police arrest in Dresden and Freital fixed four suspects

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After attacks on refugees and their supporters four suspects have been arrested in Dresden and Freital. As the Prosecutor General's Office and the charge of extremism Operative Response Centre in Saxony informed rushed, there are three men and a woman 24 to 28 years of age.

Since the morning nine apartments were searched in both cities. It had been found explosives, a swastika and other Nazi memorabilia. "The use in Freital and Dresden shows that the Free State of Saxony is not only the will, but also is able to consistently take action against right-wing violence offenders and arsonists," said Saxony's Interior Minister Markus Ulbig (CDU). He expressed hope that the "clear signal arrives in the country".

https://translate.google.co.uk/tran...ma/deutschland_rechtsextremismus/&prev=search
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The above was extracted from Der Spiegel, and I used the translate function on Google. There are a number of references to rising violent actions against refugees/migrants in Germany, so I have no idea which of these the Express was referring to.
 
Phoenix One UK said:
The above was extracted from Der Spiegel, and I used the translate function on Google. There are a number of references to rising violent actions against refugees/migrants in Germany, so I have no idea which of these the Express was referring to.
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That nonsense Daily Express article you used said, "Germany: EU migrant crisis fuels biggest rise in Nazism since Adolf Hitler". The Der Spiegel articles you used said, "Attacks on journalists: right-wing extremists attack again Reporter", "Opposition to right-wing extremists: Köln defies Hogesa", "Attacks on refugees: Racist violence is terror", etc.

Where does it state on Der Spiegel the claim that Daily Express made? There have been attacks against the refugees, fueled by racism and xenophobia, but nowhere on Der Spiegel does it mention anything close to "Germany: EU migrant crisis fuels biggest rise in Nazism since Adolf Hitler".
 
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le bouffon said:
That nonsense Daily Express article you used said, "Germany: EU migrant crisis fuels biggest rise in Nazism since Adolf Hitler". The Der Spiegel articles you used said, "Attacks on journalists: right-wing extremists attack again Reporter", "Opposition to right-wing extremists: Köln defies Hogesa", "Attacks on refugees: Racist violence is terror", etc.

Where does it state on Der Spiegel the claim that Daily Express made? There have been attacks against the refugees, fueled by racism and xenophobia, but nowhere on Der Spiegel does it mention anything close to "Germany: EU migrant crisis fuels biggest rise in Nazism since Adolf Hitler".
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I did not write the article nor do I agree with headline used, and stated as much within that first post. However, I believe you would find it hard to argue that the flood of refugees/migrants has indeed fuelled violence and hatred against such, and not just in Germany.
 
Phoenix One UK said:
I did not write the article nor do I agree with headline used, and stated as much within that first post. However, I believe you would find it hard to argue that the flood of refugees/migrants has indeed fuelled violence and hatred against such, and not just in Germany.
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The logic of the Daily Express headline matches the logic of your sentiment. Hatred has always been around, even before the "flood" of refugees. Since WWII, Germany has been the dominant immigrant destination in Europe and has the highest immigrant population.

Phoenix One UK said:
Hey, le bouffon , I note you are located in London. Are you anywhere near that massive protest there?

Million Mask March: Anonymous protesters hurl fireworks and set police car on fire in London - live - Telegraph
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I live in London, but don't venture near Whitehall during Bonfire Night. It's the hour of idiots.
 
le bouffon said:
The logic of the Daily Express headline matches the logic of your sentiment. Hatred has always been around, even before the "flood" of refugees. Since WWII, Germany has been the dominant immigrant destination in Europe and has the highest immigrant population.
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Now I get it, you're a Europhile. Should of guessed! :lol:
 
le bouffon said:
Ignorance and bigotry. Race never was mentioned. Nice try.
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Really? So what is a bigot?

Anyway, you did not respond to post regarding the massive protest in London. Are you anywhere near it? I'm in Swindon, so I can only go on what publications like telegraph tell me. Probably on news also, but if you are there, I believe that is one better.
 
Phoenix One UK said:
Really? So what is a bigot?

Anyway, you did not respond to post regarding the massive protest in London. Are you anywhere near it? I'm in Swindon, so I can only go on what publications like telegraph tell me. Probably on news also, but if you are there, I believe that is one better.
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bigot
n.
a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.

East London here, so not close. A police car was burned a few hours ago, with a protester standing next to it. The Guardian is running a good story on it.

Good debate. Cheers.
 
le bouffon said:
bigot
n.
a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.

East London here, so not close. A police car was burned a few hours ago, with a protester standing next to it. The Guardian is running a good story on it.

Good debate. Cheers.
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Yep, but it is used in another context also, which includes pulling the race card. Hence, the reason I asked if you were pulling the race card on me. I was not sure what context you were using.

Thanks, and have a good night yourself.
 
Grant said:
Noticed they're using the same anti-Police campaign there also. Think there might be a connection\?
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Do not know, but I did note it started peacefully enough, and the riot only involved a minority within that group. I also noted police were mixing with protesters (according to news reports) prior to riot kicking off. This reminded me of another riot in 1979 that kicked off in Newcastle NSW Australia. In that instance the Star Hotel was closing down and offered free booze to everyone on last day. Then it happened, the police stepped and tried to stop the celebration. That was it, the people responded and riot ensued resulting not only in police car being burned but rocks thrown at fire brigade every time they attempted to put out the fire. And no, I was not part of it, I was just passing through on my way to Brisbane, and I do not drink.
 
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