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07-30-07, 09:39 AM
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Current Mood: | Same US lead, different UK dog! Fellow Brits, seriously when did our country, one of the greatest ever to grace this planet become a slavish b**ch to America??
Our government cannot even bring itself to critise ANYTHING the current Administration does and will even make excuses for it. They would probably even make excuses for Katrina if prompted.
This "special relationship" is clearly one-sided. America says to Britain "jump", we ask "how f**king far?". I am all in favour of being allies as partners, but not this "lackie" syndrome that we seem to have.
Seriously the Bush Administration and probably previous administrations probably laugh at us and say the UK Prime minister are "pretty useful". Or use clearly very respectful greetings like "Yo, Blair."
Brown is clearly trying to upstage Blair in the kiss the Bush's *** competition.
Some European nations can be utter tossers but at least they treat us like an equal.
It makes me sick to my stomach how low we have sunk.
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07-30-07, 10:30 AM
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When Mr. Brown goes through the building and watches things, he is like
Mr.Brown: "What is this here?"
Mr. Bush: "Oh, this is nothing, only an old document ..."
Mr. Brown: "Let's see, Declaration of Independence"
Mr. Bush: "Yes, hmm, maybe it's from Florida or so, it's not important ..."  |
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07-30-07, 10:39 AM
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j/k dont blow a gasket... |
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07-30-07, 05:24 PM
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Current Mood: | Re: Same US lead, different UK dog! This whole idea of blair was bush's poodle is rubbish Blair was always in favour of Iraq and agreed with bush.
I agree with staying in Iraq and feel brown is right to do so even though i dont think he is totally genuine.
I would much rather have a united front with America than the united lets not get involved of much of western europe "if we dont get involved or agree they wont go after us, o wait people are plotting in are own countries?"
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07-30-07, 06:21 PM
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Lean: Slightly Liberal Gender:  | Re: Same US lead, different UK dog! I can see how you can be upset at the current situation of things, that the United Kingdomg might be acting as americas sidekick of sorts. However this isnt completely true. The United Kingdom just withdrew many many troops from Iraq,some thing the United States did not want the UK to do, yet it was done so anyways because of Britains self-interest. So just because the United States and the United Kingdom are in very very good terms right now does not mean that one is pocessive of the other, that the UK is nothing but an instrument of the United States.
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07-31-07, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by mikhail This whole idea of blair was bush's poodle is rubbish Blair was always in favour of Iraq and agreed with bush.
I agree with staying in Iraq and feel brown is right to do so even though i dont think he is totally genuine.
I would much rather have a united front with America than the united lets not get involved of much of western europe "if we dont get involved or agree they wont go after us, o wait people are plotting in are own countries?" | I have no problem standing side my side with America, even if it is with a policy I do not like. But there is standing side by side or standing behind the US like a sniviling beggar. The fact that we DON'T even critise the US government for anything. And this US government which has no credibillity left and has to be in contest for one of the most inept governments of US history.
The fact that Brown praised Bush on his fight against terrorism. A fight that has been poorly run, a fight that has been misunderstood, a fight that has been fought wrongly and a fight that has been lost. Do you not see something incredible wrong with this. We are a "Yes man", nothing more. Even the US government should be able to take criticism, they get it from their people all the time. But our unelected Prime Minister, yes unelected seems to think that the US is some infallible. It is dishonest, it is bull****. |
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07-31-07, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by -Locke- I can see how you can be upset at the current situation of things, that the United Kingdomg might be acting as americas sidekick of sorts. However this isnt completely true. The United Kingdom just withdrew many many troops from Iraq,some thing the United States did not want the UK to do, yet it was done so anyways because of Britains self-interest. So just because the United States and the United Kingdom are in very very good terms right now does not mean that one is pocessive of the other, that the UK is nothing but an instrument of the United States. | I'm not blaming the US for what I have said on this thread, I blame my own government.
We are "yes men" to you. Even if the US nuked a school in Switzerland b y accident, our government would still be making excuses for you. It has no dignity.
At least some other European nations stand up and say what they believe, even if that is critising the US. Whether they are wrong or right is not the point. I would kill for the UK to have that sort of dignity. |
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07-31-07, 10:14 AM
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| Re: Same US lead, different UK dog! Don't worry, Garza. With your domestic policies ensuring that the day will come when sharia is the law of your land, it is only a matter of time before you will be freed from that awful American influence. |
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07-31-07, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Gardener Don't worry, Garza. With your domestic policies ensuring that the day will come when sharia is the law of your land, it is only a matter of time before you will be freed from that awful American influence. | Well Sharia law is not even in the Muslim nation of Turkey or Eygpt or Morroco or alot of other Muslim nations, so it has a hell of long wa to go in a country with less than 10% Muslim population. Meh I'm not too worried. Even if the exaggerated claims (where it makes major assumptions) of "Londonistan" came true, every European nation would fight a civil war to stop it and our governments carry all the hardware.
And like I said I don't blame he US for this one-sided realtionship. I actually like America, don' always like its policies though. |
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07-31-07, 11:11 AM
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Current Mood: | Re: Same US lead, different UK dog! Well GarzaUK I would not be too worried. Brown has done things a tad different this time around than Blair. He was very business like with the US president, and did not use the words "war on terror" for example. He also visited France and Germany before the US. I do sense a change in the relationship... maybe Brown has the balls to stand up to US bullying. France and Germany did, and look what happened there.
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