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Russia Warns US against 'Hasty' actions on Ukraine

In this piece here.....not only do they say Obama has a credibility issue with Putin and Russia. But others that are our partners too.


Ukraine crisis: What’s the point of US military activity near Russia?

The modest US show of force – a handful of jet fighters in Eastern European skies and a single warship to the Black Sea – is intended more to calm the nerves of former Soviet republics and satellites nervous about Moscow’s actions in Ukraine, regional experts say, than it is designed to send Russia into retreat with its tail between its legs.

The US military activities “are clearly meant to reassure our allies about the US commitment to NATO and to them,” says Paul Saunders, executive director of the Center for the National Interest, a Washington think tank with expertise in US-Russia relations. “It’s really an effort to demonstrate to the new NATO members in particular,” he adds, “that the US is standing with them.”

As Heather Conley of the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington notes, there’s even a term for what the US is looking to accomplish with its ramped up NATO-area activity. “It’s really meant as ‘strategic reassurance’ as they say in NATO parlance,” says Ms. Conley, director of CSIS’s Europe Program.

The Pentagon announced this week that it sent six F-15 fighter jets to Lithuania to beef up a NATO air patrol mission over the Baltic states, and that it was expanding joint aviation exercises with Poland. On Friday the Navy announced it has sent a guided-missile destroyer, the USS Truxtun, into the Black Sea – where Crimea is located.

Secretary of State John Kerry underscored the importance of responding to the jitters running through Eastern Europe when he said at a press conference in Paris Wednesday that the Pentagon’s actions were “concrete steps to reassure our NATO allies.” What the US military steps do not portend, everyone agrees, is a US military intervention in the Ukraine crisis.

Russia is a nuclear-weapons state, and that makes it very unlikely the US would undertake military action against it,” he says. “The Russians understand we’re not going to risk a nuclear escalation over a part of Ukraine where some 2 million people live,” he adds. The downside of that reality is that it leaves Russia assuming that its actions are not going to get much push-back from the outside world, including the US.

The administration has a real credibility problem with Russia,” Saunders says.

That “credibility problem” afflicting President Obama extends beyond Russia to many US allies and partners, others say. Indeed the broader message of the US military steps in Eastern Europe may be that the US is an engaged and robust power that stands by its partners, the CSIS’s Conley says.....snip~

Ukraine crisis: What

We've got to be very careful, not to get into a tit for tat, with Russia. They have more interests in the Ukraine than we do and have a history of not backing down, when they think they're in the right. Back in the beginning of nuke testing and the Cold War, they tested a 57MegaTon: H-bomb called the Tsar Bomba that turned out to be far more powerful than they anticipated. It had effects for a 200 mile radius and was a little crazy, compared to anything previously tested. Things could spin out really fast.


 
What do you propose we do about it? And what is Ukraine to the U.S. anyway?
Ukraine intends to Europe. Being in Europe, Ukraine will become a NATO member. Becoming a member of NATO, Ukraine will be our ally. It's nice to get a country of 46 million citizens as an ally.
 
We've got to be very careful, not to get into a tit for tat, with Russia. They have more interests in the Ukraine than we do and have a history of not backing down, when they think they're in the right. Back in the beginning of nuke testing and the Cold War, they tested a 57MegaTon: H-bomb called the Tsar Bomba that turned out to be far more powerful than they anticipated. It had effects for a 200 mile radius and was a little crazy, compared to anything previously tested. Things could spin out really fast.




Mornin' Grip. :2wave: You are Right.....as I have said Putin would luv for nothing else but to see us get mired into an area where we really don't have much business. Waste money here and know that we are caught up elsewhere.


Russia sticks to its demands in Ukraine crisis.....

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Saturday the new Ukrainian government should stick to an agreement signed by the ousted president, signaling no change in Moscow's position over the Crimea crisis.

"This document is not being adhered to in terms of the obligations which these people undertook," Lavrov told a news conference in Moscow.

Lavrov said Moscow was ready for dialogue but accused the government in Kiev of taking orders from people he described as extremists and denied Moscow had any direct role in the crisis in Ukraine's Crimea peninsula.

"The interim government... is not independent. It depends, unfortunately, on radical nationalists who carried out an armed coup," Lavrov said.....snip~

Russia sticks to its demands in Ukraine crisis

Did you happen to notice this morning.....that most of the MS media has lessen their intensity over the Ukraine with their reporting. Almost down to damn near nil.
 
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Reuters – 1 hr 31 mins ago


Russia may suspend arms inspection deal with U.S. over Ukraine: reports


Russia may suspend nuclear arms inspections set down in a treaty with the United States in reaction to Western sanctions over Ukraine, Russian news agencies quoted an unnamed defense ministry source on Saturday as saying.

The source said the ministry was studying the possibility of suspending on-site inspections agreed in the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START) between Moscow and Washington.

The United States suspended military cooperation such as joint exercises and port visits with Russia on Monday as Washington sought ways to punish Moscow over its intervention in Ukraine without escalating the crisis.

"The ungrounded threats to Russia from the US and NATO over its Ukrainian policy are regarded by us as an unfriendly gesture and allow us to announce force majeure," the unnamed source is quoted as saying by the state-owned RIA Novosti news agency.

The treaty allows each side to conduct 18 on-site inspections per year in the other country.....snip~

Russia may suspend arms inspection deal with U.S. over Ukraine: reports
 
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Reuters – 1 hr 31 mins ago


Russia may suspend arms inspection deal with U.S. over Ukraine: reports


Russia may suspend nuclear arms inspections set down in a treaty with the United States in reaction to Western sanctions over Ukraine, Russian news agencies quoted an unnamed defense ministry source on Saturday as saying.

The source said the ministry was studying the possibility of suspending on-site inspections agreed in the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START) between Moscow and Washington.

The United States suspended military cooperation such as joint exercises and port visits with Russia on Monday as Washington sought ways to punish Moscow over its intervention in Ukraine without escalating the crisis.

"The ungrounded threats to Russia from the US and NATO over its Ukrainian policy are regarded by us as an unfriendly gesture and allow us to announce force majeure," the unnamed source is quoted as saying by the state-owned RIA Novosti news agency.

The treaty allows each side to conduct 18 on-site inspections per year in the other country.....snip~

Russia may suspend arms inspection deal with U.S. over Ukraine: reports

I understand the US pushing back a little, it's a necessary strategic move. We can't let Russia walk all over former provinces or they will reach for more, but it's a dicey game. We don't want to over play our hand or get to aggressive with it. At least Putin and Obama have been talking on a private phone.
 
I understand the US pushing back a little, it's a necessary strategic move. We can't let Russia walk all over former provinces or they will reach for more, but it's a dicey game. We don't want to over play our hand or get to aggressive with it. At least Putin and Obama have been talking on a private phone.

Yes.....an now obvious strategic moves. Also evidently going the way Putin planned it out. Also as the piece stated to help those NATO countries know we stand with them.

Putin isn't going to tolerate Obama trying to talk down to him.....and that has been shown with a 5 hr phone call, and the Russian response.

I picked up word that Putin has more Troops now moving into the Crimea, and despite this.....they are still willing to talk. Which is good news. No talk......bad news!


Russia open to 'equal' dialogue with West on Ukraine
AFP – 2 hrs 19 mins ago

Russia is open to having an "honest, equal" dialogue with foreign states on the crisis in Ukraine, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Saturday, insisting that Russia bore no responsibility for the situation.

"We are open to an honest, equal and objective dialogue with our foreign partners to find a way to help all of Ukraine come out of the crisis," Lavrov said at a televised news conference in Moscow with his Tajik counterpart, in a clear reference to the West.

"We are ready to continue dialogue on the understanding that this dialogue should be honest and partner-like, without attempts to portray us as one of the sides in the conflict."

But Lavrov challenged Western accusations that Russia was to blame for the crisis and implied the West had wanted to challenge Moscow's authority in the post-Soviet sphere.

"The crisis has been created artificially, out of geo-political motives," he said.

He added: "This crisis was not created by us (Russia). All the more, it was created in defiance of our repeated and longstanding warnings.".....snip~

Russia open to 'equal' dialogue with West on Ukraine
 
Yes.....an now obvious strategic moves. Also evidently going the way Putin planned it out. Also as the piece stated to help those NATO countries know we stand with them.

Putin isn't going to tolerate Obama trying to talk down to him.....and that has been shown with a 5 hr phone call, and the Russian response.

I picked up word that Putin has more Troops now moving into the Crimea, and despite this.....they are still willing to talk. Which is good news. No talk......bad news!


Russia open to 'equal' dialogue with West on Ukraine
AFP – 2 hrs 19 mins ago

Russia is open to having an "honest, equal" dialogue with foreign states on the crisis in Ukraine, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Saturday, insisting that Russia bore no responsibility for the situation.

"We are open to an honest, equal and objective dialogue with our foreign partners to find a way to help all of Ukraine come out of the crisis," Lavrov said at a televised news conference in Moscow with his Tajik counterpart, in a clear reference to the West.

"We are ready to continue dialogue on the understanding that this dialogue should be honest and partner-like, without attempts to portray us as one of the sides in the conflict."

But Lavrov challenged Western accusations that Russia was to blame for the crisis and implied the West had wanted to challenge Moscow's authority in the post-Soviet sphere.

"The crisis has been created artificially, out of geo-political motives," he said.

He added: "This crisis was not created by us (Russia). All the more, it was created in defiance of our repeated and longstanding warnings.".....snip~

Russia open to 'equal' dialogue with West on Ukraine

Their tactics remain unchanged since the Cold War.
 
Yes.....an now obvious strategic moves. Also evidently going the way Putin planned it out. Also as the piece stated to help those NATO countries know we stand with them.

Putin isn't going to tolerate Obama trying to talk down to him.....and that has been shown with a 5 hr phone call, and the Russian response.

I picked up word that Putin has more Troops now moving into the Crimea, and despite this.....they are still willing to talk. Which is good news. No talk......bad news!


Russia open to 'equal' dialogue with West on Ukraine
AFP – 2 hrs 19 mins ago

Russia is open to having an "honest, equal" dialogue with foreign states on the crisis in Ukraine, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Saturday, insisting that Russia bore no responsibility for the situation.

"We are open to an honest, equal and objective dialogue with our foreign partners to find a way to help all of Ukraine come out of the crisis," Lavrov said at a televised news conference in Moscow with his Tajik counterpart, in a clear reference to the West.

"We are ready to continue dialogue on the understanding that this dialogue should be honest and partner-like, without attempts to portray us as one of the sides in the conflict."

But Lavrov challenged Western accusations that Russia was to blame for the crisis and implied the West had wanted to challenge Moscow's authority in the post-Soviet sphere.

"The crisis has been created artificially, out of geo-political motives," he said.

He added: "This crisis was not created by us (Russia). All the more, it was created in defiance of our repeated and longstanding warnings.".....snip~

Russia open to 'equal' dialogue with West on Ukraine

It's definitely a miscalculation, on both sides, struggling for control over the gas pipelines into Europe. And I have no doubt the Putin backed, Assad Regime in Syria was partial reasoning for our countries frustrations. Another struggle over pipelines from Qatar and other countries.

We often use buzz words like "democracy" and "freedom" to create sympathy for our moves in the court of global public opinion. But it's obvious from the continuing mess of Iraq/Afghanistan and the Arab Spring in Libya/Egypt that we're not helping, by imposing our form of governing, as a smoke screen for trying to garner more resources for energy and Western capitalism.
 
We often use buzz words like "democracy" and "freedom" to create sympathy for our moves in the court of global public opinion. But it's obvious from the continuing mess of Iraq/Afghanistan and the Arab Spring in Libya/Egypt that we're not helping, by imposing our form of governing, as a smoke screen for trying to garner more resources for energy and Western capitalism.

If it wasn't for the idea of "democracy and freedom" the US would have left Iraq and Afghanistan years ago. It was trying to establish these ideals in areas of the world where religious conformity takes precedence over these natural rights (in the democracies) when the problems begin.

The lesson is to have a decisive and complete victory, as in WWII, and the positive changes, including peace, will naturally follow.
 
If it wasn't for the idea of "democracy and freedom" the US would have left Iraq and Afghanistan years ago. It was trying to establish these ideals in areas of the world where religious conformity takes precedence over these natural rights (in the democracies) when the problems begin.

The lesson is to have a decisive and complete victory, as in WWII, and the positive changes, including peace, will naturally follow.

Yea, we entered these conflicts without clear exit strategies. And nation building cost more and is less effective than we imagined. These people have little formal education, especially about western culture and are more comfortable and familiar with their own religious based systems.

These weren't all out Wars, as much as attempts at regional shaping.
 
Heya Coin. :2wave: Did you pick up on any of this today?


JETS, DESTROYER

Turkey scrambled jets after a Russian surveillance plane flew along its Black Sea coast and a U.S. warship passed through Turkey's Bosphorus straits on its way to the Black Sea, although the U.S. military said it was a routine deployment.....snip~

Ukraine standoff intensifies, Russia says sanctions will 'boomerang'

Can you believe Team Obama thinks China will be an ally on this issue ..... with the US?
Haven't read news these last 2 days.
If China will be an ally of US on this issue??
I do not believe it at all.
But even if we suppose that it will be, I'm sure that they will loose the EU (behind the scene).
 
Haven't read news these last 2 days.
If China will be an ally of US on this issue??
I do not believe it at all.
But even if we suppose that it will be, I'm sure that they will loose the EU (behind the scene).


Heya Coin. :2wave: Good seeing you back. Their not.....read back a few pages I have up what China was saying.
 
Ukraine intends to Europe. Being in Europe, Ukraine will become a NATO member. Becoming a member of NATO, Ukraine will be our ally. It's nice to get a country of 46 million citizens as an ally.

When you say “NATO” you really mean the U.S., because even as the number of NATO “allies” has grown since the fall of the Soviet Union the U.S.’ share of NATO’s budget has grown from about half to almost three-fourths (http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_67655.htm). As of 2012, only four of the twenty-eight member nations that agreed in 2006 to spend a minimum of 2% of their GDP on defense met that commitment (Will the U.S.‘Rebalance’ Its Contribution to NATO?). Since Ukraine is broke, I imagine what we’re looking at is an even greater money sink for the war-weary U.S. taxpayer. This is really a hard sell when you look at his suspicion that Ukraine really would not be a dependable ally. For example, a May, 2009 Gallup poll of Ukrainian attitudes about NATO showed about 40% of the populace viewed the alliance as a threat while another 33% were indifferent. Only 17% of the populace indicated a view that NATO was a source of protection. Notice in the poll of other countries, Georgia demonstrated the most favorable view of NATO, with 56% saying NATO was for protection with only 10% viewing the alliance as a threat. This came in the wake of the 2008 Georgian Crisis, so that result is not surprising. It’s amazing what military invasion will do to public attitudes. I’d venture a guess that our fair-weather, non-ethnic Russian friends in Ukraine have rethought some of their attitudes about NATO in light of recent events. Whether we should do the same is an open question. Personally, I'd say no.
 
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on Friday warned US Secretary of State John Kerry against Washington taking "hasty" action or imposing sanctions over Ukraine, in what has escalated into the biggest East-West crisis since the Cold War.

"Lavrov warned against hasty and unthought-through steps capable of causing harm to Russian-US relations, especially sanctions that will inevitably have a boomerang effect against the US itself," it added.

When Ukraine renounced its nuclear weapons in 1994 (nearly 2000 nuclear warheads), Russia, the United States and Britain signed the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances guaranteeing the Ukraine territorial integrity.

Now the U.S. and UK government as so-called guarantors of Ukrainian territorial integrity only imitate "action steps" to support Ukraine. The proposed sanctions against only several Russian politics and military officers are laughable and only provoke Russia to proceed.

In reality none of so-called guarantors of Ukrainian territorial integrity are ready to provide real help. They do not want to confront Russian monster with real sanctions because they realize that such actions may destroy quiet life of "civilized" world in their countries. But that is a short term perspective!

If Russian troops are not stopped now, they will occupy all Ukrainian territories. Moreover, sooner or later U.S., UK, Germany, Italy, France and rest of "civilized" Europe will discover pro-Russian demonstrations in Georgia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Poland, and Baltic countries (this countries historically was a part of Russian Empire) and then their government will be overthrown and another self-proclaimed leader will cry for Russian troops to invade to save them from “fascists” and radicals. And this will be only the first step. The next step will be recreation of the Empire of evil - USSR 2. Very soon all European countries will be under threat of Russian military invasion. I'm afraid European politicians are afraid even to analyze such possibility. Such "blind" approach helps to realize Mr. Putin's plan on Ukraine annexation.

What U.S., UK, European Union can do now? Immediately help Ukraine with troops and weapons able to stop Russians. Frightening? Yes, but imagine that similar scenario will be implemented soon in other Europe countries.

The United States and the European Union can also use REAL economic sanctions to the Russian Federation that are needed to de-escalate the conflict in Ukraine:
- denial of visas for ALL Russians traveling to Europe and USA;
- freezing of bank accounts of ALL Russian state-owned corporations;
- stop the construction of the South Stream;
- Apply the 15 billon euros fine (10 percent of annual revenues) against Gazprom for breaching EU antitrust legislation, European Union's antitrust investigation shows that Gazprom abused its position as the dominant supplier in eight central and eastern European nations, restricting the free flow of gas and unfairly pegging gas prices to oil prices in long-term contracts), although antitrust investigation is finished but CORRUPTED European politics put 15 billion sanctions on halt;
- expel Russian Federation as military aggressor from OECD organization, European parliament and G8 with returning to G7 format;
- put a proposition to the assembly of United Nation to expel Russian Federation as military aggressor;
- freezing negotiations on establishing a free trade zone with Russia.

But if unprecedented military and diplomatic betrayal of Ukraine continue. It will be a direct signal to Iran, Israel, North Korea, India, Japan, Brazil and other countries that international law is not working anymore and so-called guarantees is just a diplomatic trick, no one can be safe without its own nuclear weapons arsenal or at least chemical and bacteriological weapons. U.S. and UK diplomatic tricks now open the “Pandora box” - the risk of proliferation of nuclear weapons and other weapons of mass destruction in the world. You, the so-called "guarantors" and verbal “defenders” will be responsible for this and millions deaths after.
 
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When Ukraine renounced its nuclear weapons in 1994 (nearly 2000 nuclear warheads), Russia, the United States and Britain signed the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances guaranteeing the Ukraine territorial integrity.

Now the U.S. and UK government as so-called guarantors of Ukrainian territorial integrity only imitate "action steps" to support Ukraine. The proposed sanctions against only several Russian politics and military officers are laughable and only provoke Russia to proceed.

In reality none of so-called guarantors of Ukrainian territorial integrity are ready to provide real help. They do not want to confront Russian monster with real sanctions because they realize that such actions may destroy quiet life of "civilized" world in their countries. But that is a short term perspective!

If Russian troops are not stopped now, they will occupy all Ukrainian territories. Moreover, sooner or later U.S., UK, Germany, Italy, France and rest of "civilized" Europe will discover pro-Russian demonstrations in Georgia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Poland, and Baltic countries (this countries historically was a part of Russian Empire) and then their government will be overthrown and another self-proclaimed leader will cry for Russian troops to invade to save them from “fascists” and radicals. And this will be only the first step. The next step will be recreation of the Empire of evil - USSR 2. Very soon all European countries will be under threat of Russian military invasion. I'm afraid European politicians are afraid even to analyze such possibility. Such "blind" approach helps to realize Mr. Putin's plan on Ukraine annexation.

What U.S., UK, European Union can do now? Immediately help Ukraine with troops and weapons able to stop Russians. Frightening? Yes, but imagine that similar scenario will be implemented soon in other Europe countries.

The United States and the European Union can also use REAL economic sanctions to the Russian Federation that are needed to de-escalate the conflict in Ukraine:
- denial of visas for ALL Russians traveling to Europe and USA;
- freezing of bank accounts of ALL Russian state-owned corporations;
- stop the construction of the South Stream;
- Apply the 15 billon euros fine (10 percent of annual revenues) against Gazprom for breaching EU antitrust legislation, European Union's antitrust investigation shows that Gazprom abused its position as the dominant supplier in eight central and eastern European nations, restricting the free flow of gas and unfairly pegging gas prices to oil prices in long-term contracts), although antitrust investigation is finished but CORRUPTED European politics put 15 billion sanctions on halt;
- expel Russian Federation as military aggressor from OECD organization, European parliament and G8 with returning to G7 format;
- put a proposition to the assembly of United Nation to expel Russian Federation as military aggressor;
- freezing negotiations on establishing a free trade zone with Russia.

But if unprecedented military and diplomatic betrayal of Ukraine continue. It will be a direct signal to Iran, Israel, North Korea, India, Japan, Brazil and other countries that international law is not working anymore and so-called guarantees is just a diplomatic trick, no one can be safe without its own nuclear weapons arsenal or at least chemical and bacteriological weapons. U.S. and UK diplomatic tricks now open the “Pandora box” - the risk of proliferation of nuclear weapons and other weapons of mass destruction in the world. You, the so-called "guarantors" and verbal “defenders” will be responsible for this and millions deaths after.

Heya Dreadnought :2wave: Yeah.....but not what does the US and EU do since they now have taken the stance. That it was alright for the Ukrainian to stage a Coup and flip the Democratic Process.....all over a trade deal that the EU were hoping to get and didn't.
 
-- But if unprecedented military and diplomatic betrayal of Ukraine continue. It will be a direct signal to Iran, Israel, North Korea, India, Japan, Brazil and other countries that international law is not working anymore and so-called guarantees is just a diplomatic trick, no one can be safe without its own nuclear weapons arsenal or at least chemical and bacteriological weapons. U.S. and UK diplomatic tricks now open the “Pandora box” - the risk of proliferation of nuclear weapons and other weapons of mass destruction in the world. You, the so-called "guarantors" and verbal “defenders” will be responsible for this and millions deaths after.

Apart from slandering Israel, you also nicely put the blame for deaths on the US and UK?

If memory serves, it was a domestic Ukrainian protest that removed Yanukovych. There are limits on the Budapest agreement and even then, the US and UK have set out their position to the Russians regarding the Russian troops in Crimea.
 
When Ukraine renounced its nuclear weapons in 1994 (nearly 2000 nuclear warheads), Russia, the United States and Britain signed the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances guaranteeing the Ukraine territorial integrity.

Right. And as far as I know, the U.S. has not invaded Ukraine. Russia has. So the Ukrainians need to talk to them.

Now the U.S. and UK government as so-called guarantors of Ukrainian territorial integrity only imitate "action steps" to support Ukraine.

Whoa, Nelly! I think you're misconstruing a promise to not nuke or otherwise invade Ukraine as some sort of unidirectional defense treaty. Please direct me to the clause where the U.S. promises to send troops to Ukraine if Russia invades it.

In reality none of so-called guarantors of Ukrainian territorial integrity are ready to provide real help. They do not want to confront Russian monster with real sanctions because they realize that such actions may destroy quiet life of "civilized" world in their countries. But that is a short term perspective!

Would it be helping, or would it be making things worse? Our recent record in this regard leaves something to be desired.

If Russian troops are not stopped now, they will occupy all Ukrainian territories. Moreover, sooner or later U.S., UK, Germany, Italy, France and rest of "civilized" Europe will discover pro-Russian demonstrations in Georgia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Poland, and Baltic countries (this countries historically was a part of Russian Empire) and then their government will be overthrown and another self-proclaimed leader will cry for Russian troops to invade to save them from “fascists” and radicals. And this will be only the first step. The next step will be recreation of the Empire of evil - USSR 2. Very soon all European countries will be under threat of Russian military invasion. I'm afraid European politicians are afraid even to analyze such possibility. Such "blind" approach helps to realize Mr. Putin's plan on Ukraine annexation.

This sounds like a restatement of the "Domino Theory," used to justify U.S. intervention in Southeast Asia. 58,286 deaths later, we still pulled out, and the world didn't end. Today, Vietnam loves American businesses and tourists. :)
 
When Ukraine renounced its nuclear weapons in 1994 (nearly 2000 nuclear warheads), Russia, the United States and Britain signed the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances guaranteeing the Ukraine territorial integrity.

Now the U.S. and UK government as so-called guarantors of Ukrainian territorial integrity only imitate "action steps" to support Ukraine. The proposed sanctions against only several Russian politics and military officers are laughable and only provoke Russia to proceed.

In reality none of so-called guarantors of Ukrainian territorial integrity are ready to provide real help. They do not want to confront Russian monster with real sanctions because they realize that such actions may destroy quiet life of "civilized" world in their countries. But that is a short term perspective!

If Russian troops are not stopped now, they will occupy all Ukrainian territories. Moreover, sooner or later U.S., UK, Germany, Italy, France and rest of "civilized" Europe will discover pro-Russian demonstrations in Georgia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Poland, and Baltic countries (this countries historically was a part of Russian Empire) and then their government will be overthrown and another self-proclaimed leader will cry for Russian troops to invade to save them from “fascists” and radicals. And this will be only the first step. The next step will be recreation of the Empire of evil - USSR 2. Very soon all European countries will be under threat of Russian military invasion. I'm afraid European politicians are afraid even to analyze such possibility. Such "blind" approach helps to realize Mr. Putin's plan on Ukraine annexation.

What U.S., UK, European Union can do now? Immediately help Ukraine with troops and weapons able to stop Russians. Frightening? Yes, but imagine that similar scenario will be implemented soon in other Europe countries.

The United States and the European Union can also use REAL economic sanctions to the Russian Federation that are needed to de-escalate the conflict in Ukraine:
- denial of visas for ALL Russians traveling to Europe and USA;
- freezing of bank accounts of ALL Russian state-owned corporations;
- stop the construction of the South Stream;
- Apply the 15 billon euros fine (10 percent of annual revenues) against Gazprom for breaching EU antitrust legislation, European Union's antitrust investigation shows that Gazprom abused its position as the dominant supplier in eight central and eastern European nations, restricting the free flow of gas and unfairly pegging gas prices to oil prices in long-term contracts), although antitrust investigation is finished but CORRUPTED European politics put 15 billion sanctions on halt;
- expel Russian Federation as military aggressor from OECD organization, European parliament and G8 with returning to G7 format;
- put a proposition to the assembly of United Nation to expel Russian Federation as military aggressor;
- freezing negotiations on establishing a free trade zone with Russia.

But if unprecedented military and diplomatic betrayal of Ukraine continue. It will be a direct signal to Iran, Israel, North Korea, India, Japan, Brazil and other countries that international law is not working anymore and so-called guarantees is just a diplomatic trick, no one can be safe without its own nuclear weapons arsenal or at least chemical and bacteriological weapons. U.S. and UK diplomatic tricks now open the “Pandora box” - the risk of proliferation of nuclear weapons and other weapons of mass destruction in the world. You, the so-called "guarantors" and verbal “defenders” will be responsible for this and millions deaths after.

If this is allowed to stand, the future is massive proliferation of nuclear weapons. There is no deal to make left to prevent it since no country would dare believe any agreement is anything but a trick to expose their country to invasion and conquest.

The partisan - and therefore corrupt - media does not even discuss what is the real issue.
 
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