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'Islamization of Europe a good thing'

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'As concerns grow over the increasing number of Muslims in Europe, it appears not everyone is bothered by the issue, including an Israeli rabbi who even welcomes the phenomenon...

"With the help of God, the gentiles there will adopt a healthier life with a lot of modesty and integrity, and not like the hypocritical Christianity which appears pure but is fundamentally corrupt," (Rabbi Baruch Efrati) explained...

"Jews should rejoice at the fact that Christian Europe is losing its identity as a punishment for what it did to us for the hundreds of years were in exile there..."


'Islamization of Europe a good thing' - Israel Jewish Scene, Ynetnews

Sounds like yet another frothing-at-the-mouth wacko.
 
There is no islamisation of Europe.

That is a myth.

The birthrates of 2nd generation muslims drop to the standerds common within the country due to wealth.

Wealth is the main factor of influence in a countries birth rates.

The birth rates of islamic countries such as Turkey and Algeria have been dropping aswell with the increase of wealth in recent years to European levels of 2 children per family.
 
The German said:
There is no islamisation of Europe.

That is a myth.

The birthrates of 2nd generation muslims drop to the standerds common within the country due to wealth.

Wealth is the main factor of influence in a countries birth rates.

The birth rates of islamic countries such as Turkey and Algeria have been dropping aswell with the increase of wealth in recent years to European levels of 2 children per family.
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Same with the Iran too.
 
Canell said:
I'm afraid not.

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LOOOOOOOOOOOOL

You come to that conclusion after watching a vid with a populistic politician.


Well, my conclusion is based on social studies and numbers from ministries, univercities and scientific research institutions from all across the continent.

Now what has more weight?

The man who wants to ban the quoran? Or age old institutions which brought forwards people like Einstein and predicted the 2008 economic crisis?
 
The German said:
Well, my conclusion is based on social studies and numbers from ministries, univercities and scientific research institutions from all across the continent.
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Care to give a link to some official research documents?
 
Canell said:
Care to give a link to some official research documents?
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I would have to look for them if you have the time or could possibly remind me later on?
 
OK, I will. In the meantime...

 
 
I am disgusted by that guy.

'Islamization of Europe a good thing'
Rabbi Baruch Efrati believes Jews should 'rejoice at the fact that Europe is paying for what it did to us for hundreds of years by losing its identity.' He praises Islam for promoting modesty, respect for God
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"With the help of God, the gentiles there will adopt a healthier life with a lot of modesty and integrity, and not like the hypocritical Christianity which appears pure but is fundamentally corrupt," he explained.
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Screw him and all he stands for.

If you're ever wondering why some people hate the jews and why anti-semitism exists, it's because of people like this guy. Rabid rabbis.
 
The German said:
Here you go
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I meant in English. Sorry, I don't understand German.

The German said:
Generaly, birthrates are even going down throughout the entire islamic world.
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Their birthrates are going down but they are taking over us anyway. Wake up!

I say every culture and religion stays in it's own pond! If they want to be Muslims and walk around dressed like ninjas, fine, but NOT here! Go to your lands and be well.
 
The German said:
There is no islamisation of Europe.

That is a myth.

The birthrates of 2nd generation muslims drop to the standerds common within the country due to wealth.

Wealth is the main factor of influence in a countries birth rates.

The birth rates of islamic countries such as Turkey and Algeria have been dropping aswell with the increase of wealth in recent years to European levels of 2 children per family.
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While birthrates for muslims drop, there is an islamization of Europe going on.

'Jihadist' schoolboys return home to families - The Local

Two French school students who ran away to fight in Syria were back home this week with some explaining to do to their bewildered parents and teachers and the police.
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he two boys, aged 15 and 16, flew to Turkey on January 6 with the apparent intention of crossing the border into Syria and performing "jihad" or holy war alongside the thousands of foreign fighters who have joined rebels battling Bashar al-Assad's government forces.

The younger of the two succeeded in crossing the border but neither boy reached the front line, to the relief of anxious friends and family in Toulouse, where they were both pupils at the Arenes Lycee, or high school

The 16-year-old arrived home on Sunday while the 15-year-old, whose repatriation was delayed by complications linked to his entering Syria, got back on Tuesday
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No sign of radicalism

The case of the 15-year-old has been most surprising for his parents and teachers. Brought up in a devout Muslim family, he had never shown any sign of radicalism and had no history of trouble at school or with the police.

The other boy was known to the police in connection with minor offences and comes from a family which includes several Islamist hardliners. He is suspected of having perhaps influenced his younger friend.
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Even muslim children who aren't seen as radicals within their culture, they actually will go to fight and kill in Syria for islam. That is radicalism. If you ask me, they should have never been allowed to return back. I know they're just children, i was a child too. I was 15 just 8 years ago, and I never wanted to go to war.
We can't allow radicals in our society. Or rather, if we can smash one form of radicalism out of our society, it's going to be better later on for all of us.
 
Rainman05 said:
I am disgusted by that guy.

Screw him and all he stands for.

If you're ever wondering why some people hate the jews and why anti-semitism exists, it's because of people like this guy. Rabid rabbis.
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If you ever wondered why some people hate Jews, it's because.. they want to.

You have fallen quite willingly for the OP's Gambit to Bait Euro posters in resenting Jews. It's most of what he does here in several sections.

Ironically, and of course, it's Europe's Jews who suffer/have suffered Most from Europe's increased Muslim population.
 
mbig said:
If you ever wondered why some people hate Jews, it's because.. they want to.

You have fallen quite willingly for the OP's Gambit to Bait Euro posters in resenting Jews. It's most of what he does here in several sections.

Ironically, and of course, it's Europe's Jews who suffer/have suffered Most from Europe's increased Muslim population.
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I haven't fallen bait to anything.
The rabbi order has, within it's membership, quite the extremists and the racists. And when you see people like the rabbi in the OP and the **** they say, it just gives the people who hate jews or who want to hate the jews ammunition. And it won't be that racist asshole rabbi who is going to get his teeth knocked in. No. It will be some random jew who runs into some people who saw that stuff posted and decided it's time to react. Whether they be whites or muslims or whatever, doesn't matter. And that's f-ed up man.

So that's why screw that rabbi and all he stands for.
 
Rainman05 said:
So that's why screw that rabbi and all he stands for.
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Yeah, the rabbi wants all Muslims out of the ME, so he can live in peace, not constant fear of attack. Europe will be screwed? Who gives a shekel! :lamo
 
Canell said:
Yeah, the rabbi wants all Muslims out of the ME, so he can live in peace, not constant fear of attack. Europe will be screwed? Who gives a shekel! :lamo
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It's not about the muslims. Yes, most are assholes or enable an asshole culture, but this is not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about this sort of crap.
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French anti-government rally turns anti-Semitic
Protesters perform quenelle, a gesture reminiscent of the Hitler salute invented by the anti-Semitic French comedian Dieudonne and called on Jews to get out of France.
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I don't know if this is true or not. So far, the haaretz, which is a questionable newspaper, is the only one reporting it. So take it with a pinch of salt.

Now obviously, this protest didn't start BECAUSE that dumbass rabbi expunged his racist jewish ideology which is quite mainstream from what I can tell since there was no discearnable blacklash against his comments... But if someone would go to the protesters and say: Why are you anti-semites? They can use those words and many more as "motivation" as to why they hate the jews. And it's not going to be that rabbi or other rabbis who agree with the ****lord that are going to suffer, it's going to be jews who may not even be religious. It's going to be jews who do a day job like everyone else and try and make a living in a world that is already hard enough. they don't need some extremists to make their lives harder and they don't need their rabbis to give people who want to hate the jews more ammunition to validate that hate.

Anyway.
At least 150 protesters were arrested in the “Day of Anger” demonstrations on Sunday, according to reports. Nineteen police officers were injured in clashes with protesters, one seriously, the French news agency AFP reported. Police estimated that 17,000 participated in the march.
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So 150 people got arrested, most likely the more loudmouthed of the extremists who tagged along the anti-govt protest. The anti-govt protest in france is legitimate, I mean, the 17k people there have real issues to contend with against their socialist government. But the anti-semites tagged along and tried to hijack it, and they got arrested. Maybe a few nights in jail will cool them off.
 
In this video, Barbara Lerner Spectre, director of Paideia, The European Institute for Jewish Studies in Sweden, and which is funded by the Swedish govt, says:

"I think there is a resurgence of antisemitism because at this point in time Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the center of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will not survive."

This is worth noting because she does not attribute anti-Jewish attitudes to long-standing prejudices or the like. Instead she says that it’s because of the "leading role" played by Jews in the promotion of multiculturalism. This makes one wonder why Europe (and Australia, another example) could not survive as a group of mono-cultural societies.

Considering that multiculturalism offers a host of problems with few benefits if any, and considering that if there's one thing that's characterized Jewish society over the centuries then it's its mono-cultural nature, why do Jews like Spectre feel they have to take a "leading role" in the promotion of multiculturalism in the West?

 
More Perverse posting by shanners and no answer to my point that European Jews Are the most directly effected victims OF the large increase in the Muslim immigration.
The fact he has found another leftist/collaborationist Jew doesn't change that.
Not surprising she's funded by the Perverse govt of Sweden.
The large increase in that Muslim population had ZERO to do with Swedish Jew's opinions.
Sweden will get/is getting the country their self-hating illness deserves.
Hopefully Lerner herself will become a victim of a Muslim attack and get her head straight. (A conservative is a liberal who's been mugged).

Jews are leaving/being chased out of Europe by Muslims and their bigoted Left Wing partners.
Europe is getting what it deserves: Chasing away Nobel Prize winners and promoting immigration of unabsorbable welfare collecting criminals who want Sharia.
Great trade!

https://www.google.com/search?q=jew...-8#q=jews+leaving+europe,+muslims&safe=active
 
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mbig said:
Jews are leaving/being chased out of Europe
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Not proven by a long shot. Fact is that the only ones saying this are Jewish organisations who's whole basis is to keep the idea of Jew persecution alive.. because that is how they get their funding and maintain relevancy.
 
Rainman05 said:
I am disgusted by that guy.




Screw him and all he stands for.

If you're ever wondering why some people hate the jews and why anti-semitism exists, it's because of people like this guy. Rabid rabbis.
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So what? I can find you dozens of Christian priests who are worse, and dozens of Muslim priests who are even worse than that.

Every religion has its fanatic nuts.
 
PeteEU said:
Not proven by a long shot.
Fact is that the only ones saying this are Jewish organisations who's whole basis is to keep the idea of Jew persecution alive.. because that is how they get their funding and maintain relevancy.
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I know what you mean.
Those Jews play the 'Jew' card to the limit, and further, you can't trust Any of their organizations either.
More objective would be You perhaps.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_Europe#Antisemitism_in_the_21st_century said:
Antisemitism in the 21st century

Antisemitism has increased significantly in Europe since 2000, with significant increases in verbal attacks against Jews and vandalism such as graffiti, fire bombings of Jewish schools, desecration of synagogues and cemeteries. Those incidents took place not only in France and Germany, where antisemitic incidents are the highest in Europe but also in counties like Belgium, Austria and the United Kingdom. In those countries, physical assaults against Jews including beatings, stabbings and other violence, increased markedly, in a number of cases resulting in serious injury and even death.[8][9] Moreover, the Netherlands and Sweden have also had consistently high rates of antisemitic attacks since 2000.[10]

This rise in antisemitic attacks is associated one the one hand with the Muslim Anti-Semitism and on the other hand with the rise of far right parties as a result of the economic crisis of 2008. The failure of assimilation of Muslim immigrants communities in Europe together with economic and social problems and the spread of fundamentalist ideas among the Muslim youth in Europe has led to radicalization inside the Muslim communities and especially among the youth. This, together with the escalation of the Israeli- Palestinian conflict and the failure of the Oslo peace process, the Jews in Europe were more and more perceived as promoters and favors of pro-Israeli ideas. Thus, the thin line that existed before between antisemitism and anti-Zionism has become even thinner. A number of studies conducted among the Muslim youth in various western European countries have showed that Muslim children have far more anti-Semitic ideas than Christian children- in 2011 Mark Elchardus, a Belgian sociologist, published a report on Dutch-language elementary schools in Brussels. He found that about 50% of Muslim students in second and third grade could be considered anti-Semites, versus 10% of others. In the same year Unther Jikeli published his findings from the 117 interviews he conducted with Muslim male youngsters (average age 19) in Berlin, Paris and London.. The majority of the interviewees voiced some, or strong anti-Semitic feelings. They expressed them openly and often aggressively.[11]

A large number of violent antisemitic attacks in Europe were done by Muslims..".."
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See
Fearful of anti-Semitism, 22% of European Jews hide identity | The Times of Israel

and:

Aliyah: French Jews Fleeing To Israel To Escape Rising Anti-Semitism, Muslim Extremism, And Economic Crisis
By Palash Ghosh
Nov 26 2013
International Business Times

Almost seven decades after the fall of the Nazi Third Reich, anti-Semitism remains an intractable problem in Europe, prompting more Jews to seek to immigrate to Israel ("aliyah" in Hebrew). Nowhere is this phenomenon more pronounced than in France. The Jewish Telegraphic Agency (JTA) reported that in the first nine months of 2013, the number of French Jews departing for Israel soared by 49% (from 1,469 to 2,185) compared to the same period in 2012. In all of 2012, 1,907 Jews arrived in Israel from France, JTA said, citing figures from the Jewish Agency for Israel, a nonprofit Jewish organization. Under the Law of Return, all Jews residing outside Israel have the legal right to immigrate and settle in Israel and be granted Israeli nationality.

In September alone, 148 French Jewish immigrants arrived in Israel, a big jump from the 90 who came in September 2012. “September numbers are usually predictive of the total numbers for the year,” said Howard Flower, director of aliyah for the International Christian Embassy Jerusalem, a partner of the Jewish Agency. In contrast, the proportion of Jews moving to Israel from North America fell by 8% over that nine-month time frame (from 2,737 to 2,524). On the whole, some 13,905 people made aliyah from around the world through the first nine months of this year, a 1% increase over the comparable 2012 period.

But the number of Jewish immigrants from Western Europe has surged by 26% over the prior year, likely reflecting growing worries about anti-Semitism on the continent. Earlier this month, the European Union’s Fundamental Rights Agency released a survey of Jews from nine European states in which one-third said they did “not feel safe” living as Jews and considered immigrating to Israel. In three such countries – France, Belgium and Hungary – such fears were particularly pronounced. In total, more than three- quarters (76%) of respondents said they detected rising anti-Semitism across Europe. An extraordinary 90% said they have encountered countrymen who did not consider Jews to be their fellow nationals.

The Local newspaper cited a report from February 2013 that claimed anti-Semitic attacks in France (both physical and verbal) have skyrocketed 82% in the country last year. Perhaps the most shocking incident of anti-Jewish violence of that year occurred in March, when an al-Qaeda-inspired Muslim gunman named Mohammed Merah killed seven people, including four Jews, in and around the southern France city of Toulouse."..."
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and
Jews are attacked in France, flee to Israel | Reporting on the Middle East, Science, and Education

and
Jews Under Muslim Attack in Europe | FrontPage Magazine

and so many more.
 
shanners said:
In this video, Barbara Lerner Spectre, director of Paideia, The European Institute for Jewish Studies in Sweden, and which is funded by the Swedish govt, says:

"I think there is a resurgence of antisemitism because at this point in time Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the center of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will not survive."

This is worth noting because she does not attribute anti-Jewish attitudes to long-standing prejudices or the like. Instead she says that it’s because of the "leading role" played by Jews in the promotion of multiculturalism. This makes one wonder why Europe (and Australia, another example) could not survive as a group of mono-cultural societies.

Considering that multiculturalism offers a host of problems with few benefits if any, and considering that if there's one thing that's characterized Jewish society over the centuries then it's its mono-cultural nature, why do Jews like Spectre feel they have to take a "leading role" in the promotion of multiculturalism in the West?

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Why do you obsess over Jews? Your continuing anit-Jewish postings render you increasingly irrelevant.
 
Rainman05 said:
I am disgusted by that guy.




Screw him and all he stands for.

If you're ever wondering why some people hate the jews and why anti-semitism exists, it's because of people like this guy. Rabid rabbis.
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Yeah, that must be it. It's always the fault of 'Da Joooos!', isn't it? No wonder those hard working Germans felt that they owed it to the world to eliminate them from the face of the earth.
 
Rainman05 said:
I haven't fallen bait to anything.
The rabbi order has, within it's membership, quite the extremists and the racists. And when you see people like the rabbi in the OP and the **** they say, it just gives the people who hate jews or who want to hate the jews ammunition. And it won't be that racist asshole rabbi who is going to get his teeth knocked in. No. It will be some random jew who runs into some people who saw that stuff posted and decided it's time to react. Whether they be whites or muslims or whatever, doesn't matter. And that's f-ed up man.

So that's why screw that rabbi and all he stands for.
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Except, of course, you justified anti-Semitism on the basis of this extremist. You fell for everything the number 1 Jew baiter on the forum posted.
 
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