I will only refute the following, rather than your conjecture.
You say the following,
The conversation/reply was Not about Global Jihad. Which I certainly understand better than you do.
then,
It was about whose side had the more radical Muslim population, and secondarily now, why.
And you understand 'Global Jihad'? it is called global jihad for a reason. Moreover, I didn't realize the UK and America were on different sides:doh I'm sure the latest casualty/death (a Grenadier Guard) in Afghanistan would be pleased to hear such togetherness.....
This is not just about Afghanistan either... barely at all in fact. But FYI it's the USA who has Guantanamo, while in the UK the same people preach in Finsbury :^)
Finsbury Park Mosque » Working for a better future. You really need to keep up to date with your info. It seems a
change at the top has brought Finsbury away from the fanatics. They put on an event to celebrate the Olympics.
"Finsbury Park Mosque was part of the Olympic-themed family picnic and sports day
along with other churches and mosques and community centres in Finsbury Park last Sunday 15/7/12 from 1-4pm. It was at track-in-park and events include running, football and children's activities such as sack rac"
They never encouraged other faiths to participate
that's it I'm calling the Police!! Interfaith intermingling...whatever next?
It's about one immigrants in one part of the world being absorbed better (Here) not only because of our countries outlook and their 'pre-selecting' themselves to come here, but second, about what their perception is of what they can get away with. Taking advantage of Euro/Scando-socialists and Post-colonial guilt is an easier target than trying to piss on less guilty don't try that shiite here Americans. It's quite amazing not just what the UK has tolerated, but the wholesale Jihadi/Islamist criminality in places like Sweden. If America had a Malmö (or even Oslo, Intifada Paris, or Londonistan), their would be Overwhelming public outcry and Strong government action. (Not to mention those exercising their second amendment rights)
Couldn't happen.
You are probably correct in the most part here. But correct only in so much as identifying the problems (perceived or otherwise) that the UK and Europe has had to deal with. The fact that Europe has
HISTORY something America has very little of, obviously works in favour of American not having to come too terms with previous policy disasters. The carving up of large parts of the ME/and tampering in the Maghreb has consequences. American uniqueness in being a country that 'immigrants bought into' obviously works in your favour. Who would argue that point? Please explain what is a 'Londonstan'? (if you are basing your claim on a book by Melanie Phillips, don't insult yourself).
Though many EU Countries and leaders, including the aforementioned Cameron, have Started to put their foot down.... Right wing parties have risen and immigration cut in some places. The USA has had to do very little of this, though we do have an active FBI.
Considering America had endured the despicable attacks on 9/11 it is of no surprise that America turned into the fortress it has now become. The worlds only superpower (until China supplants you) has infinite resources and mindset verging on paranoia when it comes to personal safety. Look at what the FBI think,
"The FBI is fully engaged in the worldwide effort to counter terrorism. We have taken that fight to our adversaries' own sanctuaries in the far corners of the world—Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan,
Europe, Asia, and Africa.
We have also worked to uncover terror cells and supporters within the United States, as well as to disrupt terrorists' financial, communications, and operational lifelines at home and abroad."
FBI — FBI Budget for Fiscal Year 2012
Another example where your own agency (FBI) acknowledges the danger of terrorism 'homegrown' and 'abroad'. It seems your hypothesis of a
them and
us has no substance, thus pretty much defunct. To summarize, Global Jihad is just that, GLOBAL with very few countries immune from its reach. I think someone is somewhat out of their depth....better do some reading up:2wave:
I think that's enough to refute mbig, again.
Paul
