Oh My God Global Warmingis Causing Snow

[Councilman]

National Weather Service Watch Warning Advisory Summary

As we brace or more more record low cold temperatures Omaba continues to pretned tha that the truth has not come out about the HOAX of global warming.

Please take your time and read the facts, and keep in mind that the facts out weigh the false BS presented by the Liberals who have forgotten how to use their brains to make their own decisions and rely on the party line.

Recent revalations should be enugh to det the Al Goer followers to" Shut the Hell Up" and go away but they ignore the truth like the Obama worshipers.

SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC
1234 PM EST FRI FEB 5 2010

DCZ001-MDZ004>007-009>011-013-014-016>018-VAZ042-050>057-501-502-
060145-
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA-FREDERICK MD-CARROLL-NORTHERN BALTIMORE-
HARFORD-MONTGOMERY-HOWARD-SOUTHERN BALTIMORE-PRINCE GEORGES-
ANNE ARUNDEL-CHARLES-ST. MARYS-CALVERT-LOUDOUN-ORANGE-CULPEPER-
PRINCE WILLIAM/MANASSAS/MANASSAS PARK-FAIRFAX-
ARLINGTON/FALLS CHURCH/ALEXANDRIA-STAFFORD-SPOTSYLVANIA-
KING GEORGE-NORTHERN FAUQUIER-SOUTHERN FAUQUIER-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...WASHINGTON...FREDERICK...WESTMINSTER...
GAITHERSBURG...COLUMBIA...BALTIMORE...ANNAPOLIS...WALDORF...
ST MARYS CITY...LEESBURG...CULPEPER...MANASSAS...MANASSAS PARK...
FAIRFAX...ALEXANDRIA...FALLS CHURCH...FREDERICKSBURG...WARRENTON
1234 PM EST FRI FEB 5 2010

...RECORD SNOWFALL FORECAST IN THE BALTIMORE-WASHINGTON DC REGION...

...EXTREMELY DANGEROUS WINTER WEATHER CONDITIONS DEVELOPING TONIGHT...

GUSTY NORTHEAST WINDS 20 TO 30 MPH WITH VISIBILITIES FREQUENTLY
FALLING BELOW ONE-QUARTER MILE DUE TO HEAVY SNOW WILL DEVELOP
TONIGHT TO PRODUCE NEAR-BLIZZARD AND EXTREMELY HAZARDOUS WINTER WEATHER
CONDITIONS TONIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY MORNING. TRAVEL IS HIGHLY
DISCOURAGED TONIGHT AND WILL BE VERY DANGEROUS.

LOOKING BACK AT THE BIGGEST STORM OF RECORD FOR WASHINGTON DC... THE
JANUARY 1922 KNICKERBOCKER STORM...28.0 INCHES OF SNOW WAS
PRODUCED FROM 3.02 INCHES OF LIQUID WATER. CURRENT FORECASTS FOR
THIS EVENT HAVE TOTAL LIQUID FALLING FROM THIS STORM APPROACHING 3
INCHES...WHICH ACCORDINGLY WOULD CREATE A SNOWFALL THAT WILL RIVAL
THE KNICKERBOCKER STORM TOTAL. GENERALLY ACROSS THE REGION...20 TO
30 INCHES OF SNOW WILL FALL BY SATURDAY EVENING.

BALTIMORES RECORD OF 26.8 INCHES FROM THE PRESIDENTS DAY FEBRUARY 2003
STORM WILL ALSO BE THREATENED.

 

[cpwill]

:sigh: cmon, councilman, it's Global Climate CHANGE.... "Global Warming" is soo 2002....

 

[Deuce]

People who make this "SEE THERE'S NO GLOBAL WARMING ITS COLD OUTSIDE" argument really lack basic understanding of weather patterns and the environment in general.

The short of it is: more energy in system (heat) -> more movement -> more circulation of moisture -> More severe weather. Also, you know it's currently summertime in the southern hemisphere, right?

So yes. Global warming can cause heavy snow. And more severe weather in general.

But you? You're willing to toss out the decades of research by thousands of scientists that all point in the same general direction, because you don't trust them because you just know better.

 

[marduc]

Meanwhile in other recent news regarding global weather:

South Africa:

Heat wave still to hit top temps:

THE Garden Route, already in the grip of the worst drought in more than a century and plagued by rampant veld fires, is sweltering under a heat wave which is set to peak tomorrow.

Heat wave brings ‘autumn’ to Penang

Argentina:

Argentina's Electric Power Grid Holds Up Despite Heat Wave

Argentina's Electric Power Grid Holds Up Despite Heat Wave - WSJ.com

Malaysia:

Heat wave brings ‘autumn’ to Penang:

GEORGE TOWN: If it is not for the scorching tropical heat here, those visiting Penang would have thought it was autumn on the island.

The intense heat has caused leaves on the trees along major streets to wilt and turn yellow, creating an autumn-like look but without the cool weather.

Argentina's Electric Power Grid Holds Up Despite Heat Wave - WSJ.com

But none of this matters.. what matter is that this totally freakish occurrence of some cold white fluffy stuff called snow falls from the sky during "winter" How extraordinary!!!

I really cannot figure out why it is snowing.. odd.

 

[hazlnut]

It's amazing, no matter how many times you try to explain to the far-right drinkers of the dark-red kool aide, they just don't get it...

The difference between weather and climate AND

All weather (rain, snow, blizzards, droughts, hurricanes) is a function of ONE thing... Can you guess? Can you guess?

(Hint: Heat)

Do you realize how stupid you sound when you make comments about cold spells being evidence against global warming??:roll::roll:

Do you?

 

[Diogenes]

Do you realize how stupid you sound when you make comments about cold spells being evidence against global warming??:roll:

Do you?

Do you realize how stupid you sound when you make comments about cold spells being evidence OF global warming?? :roll:

Do you?

 

[digsbe]

There is science against anthropogenic climate change... it's just ignored by arrogant professors that spew corrupted data. Global warming is a hoax, and saying that warming will cause colder weather patterns isn't really logical. I would like to see the science behind the argument that warming will cause record low temperatures. The scientific community is about as corrupt as politics, only I think there is more arrogance on the side of science when dealing with opposing theories or data contrary to what they want to hear.

 

[Deuce]

There is science against anthropogenic climate change... it's just ignored by arrogant professors that spew corrupted data. Global warming is a hoax, and saying that warming will cause colder weather patterns isn't really logical. I would like to see the science behind the argument that warming will cause record low temperatures. The scientific community is about as corrupt as politics, only I think there is more arrogance on the side of science when dealing with opposing theories or data contrary to what they want to hear.

Just because you don't understand the logic doesn't make it illogical. More heat -> More energy -> more movement of moisture and heat -> more extreme weather on both sides is the really short and really dumbed down version of it. Why the hell do people with no meteorological background get so arrogant as to assume that they know better than people who spend a lifetime studying this stuff?

It's summertime in the southern hemisphere and some places are experiencing record high temperatures right now.

There are some great online meteorology courses out there that do a wonderful job of explaining how this all fits together, you should try it. As a pilot they taught me the basics, but I wanted to know more about how weather patterns affect eachother, how these computer models work, etc. It's really interesting stuff.

 

[Renae]

It's amazing, no matter how many times you try to explain to the far-right drinkers of the dark-red kool aide, they just don't get it...

The difference between weather and climate AND

All weather (rain, snow, blizzards, droughts, hurricanes) is a function of ONE thing... Can you guess? Can you guess?

(Hint: Heat)

Do you realize how stupid you sound when you make comments about cold spells being evidence against global warming??:roll::roll:

Do you?

Weather is just the daily result of climate.

You lefties are still stuck on "MAN CAUSED IT!" because it gives you a cause to increase the power of the Government over the people, whom you deem too stupid to do the right thing and require guidance.

 

[Ockham]

Weather is just the daily result of climate.

You lefties are still stuck on "MAN CAUSED IT!" because it gives you a cause to increase the power of the Government over the people, whom you deem too stupid to do the right thing and require guidance.

The capitalist in my can't blame them Vicchio --- a few well placed lies, some strong arm tactics in the press, some brow beating in the Scientific community and some man-handled data over a long period of time nets billions and billions of dollars and government buy in to control over production, manufacturing and legislation. It's the Progressive wet dream come to life ... of COURSE MAN caused it all... we have to in any/all scenario's for this thing to work. If it's cylical and caused by nature, no money, no power, and poof... it's all over. Now they circle the wagons, continue to push the data points and appeal to the masses of sheep who bought off on it. That and continue to produce wildlife programs designed to push the "global warming" mantra on the Science Channel, Nature, and any other magazines or periodicals they can. It's all too predictable but you have to give them kudos... as manipulation goes, they did a helluva job.

 

[digsbe]

Just because you don't understand the logic doesn't make it illogical. More heat -> More energy -> more movement of moisture and heat -> more extreme weather on both sides is the really short and really dumbed down version of it. Why the hell do people with no meteorological background get so arrogant as to assume that they know better than people who spend a lifetime studying this stuff?

It's summertime in the southern hemisphere and some places are experiencing record high temperatures right now.

There are some great online meteorology courses out there that do a wonderful job of explaining how this all fits together, you should try it. As a pilot they taught me the basics, but I wanted to know more about how weather patterns affect eachother, how these computer models work, etc. It's really interesting stuff.

More moisture doesn't mean colder temperatures, (usually, all though water vapor is the principal green house gas) more heat -> more energy would lead to massive hurricanes, not blizzards. And I may not be a meteorologist, but I am a university student majoring in biology and minoring in chemistry. I may not have my degree yet, but I do know that AGW is due to gasses like CO2. CO2 dissolves in water, thus lowering the boiling point and causing less water to evaporate. One could argue and increase in CO2 would lead to less vapor which means less moisture. There are a lot of factors at play. What we do know is proven is that warming and cooling is due to the solar cycle, other plants are warming and cooling along with us.

What I would like to see explained is how global warming leads to record low temperatures or how it is causing the mini 20-30 year long ice age that scientists are predicting will happen (and that started this year). It's all due to climate trends, not climate change.

 

[roderic]

It' ging to be cold in Baltimore next week, so GW is a hoax and Obama a liar.

LOL

 

[Gill]

It' ging to be cold in Baltimore next week, so GW is a hoax and Obama a liar.

LOL

At least the last half of your sentence is correct..... :mrgreen:

 

[Arch Enemy]

Weather is just the daily result of climate.

You lefties are still stuck on "MAN CAUSED IT!" because it gives you a cause to increase the power of the Government over the people, whom you deem too stupid to do the right thing and require guidance.

Man did cause this ****ty weather we're getting here in Appalachia!

I'm going to kick the weather man's ass!

 

[Deuce]

More moisture doesn't mean colder temperatures, (usually, all though water vapor is the principal green house gas) more heat -> more energy would lead to massive hurricanes, not blizzards. And I may not be a meteorologist, but I am a university student majoring in biology and minoring in chemistry. I may not have my degree yet, but I do know that AGW is due to gasses like CO2. CO2 dissolves in water, thus lowering the boiling point and causing less water to evaporate. One could argue and increase in CO2 would lead to less vapor which means less moisture. There are a lot of factors at play. What we do know is proven is that warming and cooling is due to the solar cycle, other plants are warming and cooling along with us.

What I would like to see explained is how global warming leads to record low temperatures or how it is causing the mini 20-30 year long ice age that scientists are predicting will happen (and that started this year). It's all due to climate trends, not climate change.

Surely that almost-bachelor's in chemistry makes you a better expert than thousands of meteorology and climate phd's. Ok! You've convinced me! :rofl

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Just because that its warmer than normal in one place does not mean that it is every where else. Just because its colder than normal in one place does not mean thats its colder than normal everywhere else.

As I write this post, these are some temperature readings in North America:

Fairbanks, AK : 12 degrees (way above normal).

Whitehorse, Canada: 21 degrees (way above normal).

Edmonton, Canada: 27 degrees (way above normal).

Churchill, Canada: 0 degrees (normal range).

Chicago, IL: 27 degrees (normal range).

Kansas City, MO: 26 degrees (normal range).

Columbus, OH: 33 degrees (normal range).

Raleigh, NC: 27 degrees (below normal).

So what have been the dominant short term climate factors for North America this winter.

1. We have had a much warmer than normal Arctic.

2. We have had a much warmer than normal Alaska and Yukon.

3. This has forced cold air from the upper latitudes down into the Midwest and East Coast.

4. We have an El Nino in the Pacific.

5. This has made for much wetter winter than normal across much of the continental United States.

6. The increased moisture combined with cold air being forced down from the arctic has lead to record snowfalls in parts of the east and Midwest, as well as above average snowfalls in the Sierra Nevada and Southern Rockies.

On balance, for North America as a whole, we will probably end up with higher than normal temperatures because of the much warmer arctic this year despite the cold in the East and Midwest.

Does that "prove" Global Warming? Of course not. It does however mean that just because we are colder in the Midwest and East Coast this year, Global Warming is some how a lie.

 

[digsbe]

Surely that almost-bachelor's in chemistry makes you a better expert than thousands of meteorology and climate phd's. Ok! You've convinced me! :rofl

Maybe it does? Considering they use flawed data and come at it all with bias opinions. What about other Phd's who don't agree with AGW? Are they all stupid for not believing the same way? I am just stating that I understand some of the basics, more then what most citizens understand. It's easy to believe anything an expert says, it's another thing to look at the evidence yourself and made a scientific opinion based on the science and not the scientist.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Maybe it does? Considering they use flawed data and come at it all with bias opinions. What about other Phd's who don't agree with AGW? Are they all stupid for not believing the same way? I am just stating that I understand some of the basics, more then what most citizens understand. It's easy to believe anything an expert says, it's another thing to look at the evidence yourself and made a scientific opinion based on the science and not the scientist.

Lets look at the facts that are not in dispute.

1. It is undeniable that all things being equal, increased concentrations of CO2 and Methane in the atmosphere will prevent less heat from radiating back into space and thus will warm the earth's climate. This one can be easily simulated in the lab.

2. It is undeniable that since the dawn of the industrial age, human activity has altered the composition of the atmosphere, and CO2 PPM has grown steadily since and tracked worldwide economic growth.

3. It is undeniable that the earth has warmed between .7 degrees and 1 degree C over the past 100 years, and that warming cannot be completely explained through natural forcing alone.

The debate is largely over the fact that all things are never equal, and thus there is a question as to how strong the anthropogenic signal is, and will be, over the next century. For example, will we warm another degree or so (manageable), or will we warm another 7 or 8 degrees (catastrophic)?

There is also the question of how much of a role urban heat islands have played and land use changes have played. Considering that man has significantly modified about 40% of the world's landmass over the past 100 years, I would say that land use changes play a larger role than some of the models indicate. Then there is the question as to whether or not government action with either Cap and Trade or Carbon Taxes, would actually result in a significant reduction in carbon emissions.

 

[danarhea]

Lets look at the facts that are not in dispute.

1. It is undeniable that all things being equal, increased concentrations of CO2 and Methane in the atmosphere will prevent less heat from radiating back into space and thus will warm the earth's climate. This one can be easily simulated in the lab.

2. It is undeniable that since the dawn of the industrial age, human activity has altered the composition of the atmosphere, and CO2 PPM has grown steadily since and tracked worldwide economic growth.

3. It is undeniable that the earth has warmed between .7 degrees and 1 degree C over the past 100 years, and that warming cannot be completely explained through natural forcing alone.

The debate is largely over the fact that all things are never equal, and thus there is a question as to how strong the anthropogenic signal is, and will be, over the next century. For example, will we warm another degree or so (manageable), or will we warm another 7 or 8 degrees (catastrophic)?

There is also the question of how much of a role urban heat islands have played and land use changes have played. Considering that man has significantly modified about 40% of the world's landmass over the past 100 years, I would say that land use changes play a larger role than some of the models indicate. Then there is the question as to whether or not government action with either Cap and Trade or Carbon Taxes, would actually result in a significant reduction in carbon emissions.

Cap and trade is nothing but a gimmick and a joke, but Global Warming is real.

1) When I was in Junior High School, more than 40 years ago, I learned the basic fact that carbon dioxide traps heat at the Earth's surface. That was elementary Junior High science class in the early 1960's.

2) Look at all the carbon dioxide being pumped into the atmosphere by man.

Any questions about the obvious?

 

[Renae]

Cap and trade is nothing but a gimmick and a joke, but Global Warming is real.

1) When I was in Junior High School, more than 40 years ago, I learned the basic fact that carbon dioxide traps heat at the Earth's surface. That was elementary Junior High science class in the early 1960's.

2) Look at all the carbon dioxide being pumped into the atmosphere by man.

Any questions about the obvious?

Average change per year in PPM of CO2? 1.333 extra carbon molecule per million, per year. scary **** man.

How about the fact that it takes an order of magnitude MORE CO2 to increase the trapping effect. I.E. if you had NO CO2 in the air, and added 1 PPM, it'd take 2, then 4, then 8, then 16, then 32, then 64 then 128, then 256, then 512, then 1028 etc. etc. etc.

 

[spud_meister]

CO2 dissolves in water, thus lowering the boiling point and causing less water to evaporate. One could argue and increase in CO2 would lead to less vapor which means less moisture.

wouldn't lowering the boiling point cause more water to evaporate, as less heat needs to be put into it to cause evaporation?

 

[VanceMack]

People who make this "SEE THERE'S NO GLOBAL WARMING ITS COLD OUTSIDE" argument really lack basic understanding of weather patterns and the environment in general.

The short of it is: more energy in system (heat) -> more movement -> more circulation of moisture -> More severe weather. Also, you know it's currently summertime in the southern hemisphere, right?

So yes. Global warming can cause heavy snow. And more severe weather in general.

But you? You're willing to toss out the decades of research by thousands of scientists that all point in the same general direction, because you don't trust them because you just know better.

People who make this man-made global warming claim ignore the fact that 'climate change' has occured throughout time, with or without the benefit of man. Yes...climate change can cause record highs...and record laws...and often in cycles leaving drought in some places and flood in others.

But you and people like you? You are willing to toss out the scientific reality that there always HAS been climate change...always WILL be climate change, and no amount of fabricated evidence, flawed science, or taxation for the sake of control of peoples assets will change that reality and make it suddenly be about human beings....

say...this IS fun...

 

[VanceMack]

Surely that almost-bachelor's in chemistry makes you a better expert than thousands of meteorology and climate phd's. Ok! You've convinced me! :rofl

right...because apparently you need a double doctorate in some form of climate related field to be able to manipulate data to get it to show the results you want (when the actual data shows the opposite) or to learn how to bury data you dont like, or hide research that disproves your theories, or move weather monitoring stations from neutral temp sites to black top covered parking lots, mounted on red brick structures, or place the equipment next to HVAC vents...

Climate change is real and naturally occuring and always has been. The man made impact of climate change is only proven in the minds of those with an agenda and lacking in scientific curiosity (say...isnt that what they said about George bush?).

 

[Alvin T. Grey]

There is science against anthropogenic climate change... it's just ignored by arrogant professors that spew corrupted data. Global warming is a hoax, and saying that warming will cause colder weather patterns isn't really logical. I would like to see the science behind the argument that warming will cause record low temperatures. The scientific community is about as corrupt as politics, only I think there is more arrogance on the side of science when dealing with opposing theories or data contrary to what they want to hear.

Really,
Here is another interesting little factoid regarding climate change. During an iceage deserts actually expand.
That seems counterintuitive and illogical too. But it happens.

 

[VanceMack]

Really,
Here is another interesting little factoid regarding climate change. During an iceage deserts actually expand.
That seems counterintuitive and illogical too. But it happens.

Thats what happens when you have a closed eco-system...a finite amount of water. If it is frozen one place it wont be available in others.

The ONLY real fact is that we DO experience climate change on the planet and always have.