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Oh My God Global Warmingis Causing Snow

No, everyone who suggests it is joking and often trying to get the goat of people who get raving mad at the suggestion. That at least has been my observation.

Wow, you've really got your head buried in the snow.

Sit down before you read this:

There are lots and lots and lots of people who are completely and totally serious about it. Just like the ones who really believe it's all a hoax, or a liberal plot to take over the world, etc. And most of them happen to be on your side of the political fence, by the way. They are dead serious.
 
Man did cause this ****ty weather we're getting here in Appalachia!

I'm going to kick the weather man's ass!
I hear they're building fires around the weather stations in the colder regions so the instruments won't freeze up. :lol:
 
Wow, you've really got your head buried in the snow.

Sit down before you read this:

There are lots and lots and lots of people who are completely and totally serious about it.

Maybe, but I have yet to see a single one. Lots of people use it as a joke, though, and every time it happens someone goes bonkers thinking that they're serious.

Just like the ones who really believe it's all a hoax, or a liberal plot to take over the world, etc. And most of them happen to be on your side of the political fence, by the way. They are dead serious.

I do believe it's a hoax, if that's what you want to call it, and while nobody believes it's a liberal plot to take over the world, it is almost certainly, for many people, just a means to push a liberal political agenda.
 
Maybe, but I have yet to see a single one. Lots of people use it as a joke, though, and every time it happens someone goes bonkers thinking that they're serious.

Then you're not paying attention. They are all around you. Perhaps some who you think are joking aren't really. I know, it's cognitive dissonance.

I do believe it's a hoax, if that's what you want to call it, and while nobody believes it's a liberal plot to take over the world, it is almost certainly, for many people, just a means to push a liberal political agenda.

Yeah, whatever. Do you believe the globe isn't warming, or that it isn't cause by human activity?
 
Yeah, whatever. Do you believe the globe isn't warming, or that it isn't cause by human activity?

According to this guy the earth hasn't warmed since 1995. He also concedes any warming the planet has experienced may not be man made. Global warming religionists should be concerned if only because the whole theory of globam warming is based largely on his organization's work.


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Climategate U-turn as scientist at centre of row admits: There has been no global warming since 1995
By Jonathan Petre
Last updated at 1:51 PM on 14th February 2010

Data for vital 'hockey stick graph' has gone missing
There has been no global warming since 1995
Warming periods have happened before - but NOT due to man-made changes
Data: Professor Phil Jones admitted his record keeping is 'not as good as it should be'
The academic at the centre of the ‘Climategate’ affair, whose raw data is crucial to the theory of climate change, has admitted that he has trouble ‘keeping track’ of the information.
Colleagues say that the reason Professor Phil Jones has refused Freedom of Information requests is that he may have actually lost the relevant papers.
Professor Jones told the BBC yesterday there was truth in the observations of colleagues that he lacked organisational skills, that his office was swamped with piles of paper and that his record keeping is ‘not as good as it should be’.
The data is crucial to the famous ‘hockey stick graph’ used by climate change advocates to support the theory.

Professor Jones also conceded the possibility that the world was warmer in medieval times than now – suggesting global warming may not be a man-made phenomenon.
And he said that for the past 15 years there has been no ‘statistically significant’ warming.
The admissions will be seized on by sceptics as fresh evidence that there are serious flaws at the heart of the science of climate change and the orthodoxy that recent rises in temperature are largely man-made.
Professor Jones has been in the spotlight since he stepped down as director of the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit after the leaking of emails that sceptics claim show scientists were manipulating data.
 
According to this guy the earth hasn't warmed since 1995. He also concedes any warming the planet has experienced may not be man made. Global warming religionists should be concerned if only because the whole theory of globam warming is based largely on his organization's work.


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So since 1900 there has been warming, but it slowed down the last 15 years?
And it might not be man made? So it might be man made?
 
It's hysterically funny watching religious rightists (on the whole) accusing those who subscribe to the concept of anthropogenic climate change as a "religion", using the word as an epithet.
 
It's hysterically funny watching religious rightists (on the whole) accusing those who subscribe to the concept of anthropogenic climate change as a "religion", using the word as an epithet.

Some think Al Gore invented global warming.

"In the 1940's there were developments in infrared spectroscopy for measuring long-wave radiation. At that time it was proven that increasing the amount of atmospheric carbon dioxide resulted in more absorption of infrared radiation. It was also discovered that water vapor absorbed totally different types of radiation than carbon dioxide. Gilbert Plass summarized these results in 1955. He concluded that adding more carbon dioxide to the atmosphere would intercept infrared radiation that is otherwise lost to space, warming the earth."

Read more: History of the greenhouse effect and global warming
 
Al Gore uses alot of energy in his house, therefore global warming doesn't exist.

It's snowing, therefore global warming doesn't exist.

Some idiot blamed some obscure weath problem on global warming once, therefore global warming doesn't exist.

So much evidence against global warming!
 
Al Gore uses alot of energy in his house, therefore global warming doesn't exist.

It's snowing, therefore global warming doesn't exist.

Some idiot blamed some obscure weath problem on global warming once, therefore global warming doesn't exist.

So much evidence against global warming!

Wow, three strawmen in one post.
 
So since 1900 there has been warming, but it slowed down the last 15 years?
And it might not be man made? So it might be man made?

From the 1880's to 95 the average temperature raised by about 1.5 deg far. Since 1995 the termperature stopped raising. It actually went down. That's the problem the global warming gurus were all fired up about in their e-mails.
 
From the 1880's to 95 the average temperature raised by about 1.5 deg far. Since 1995 the termperature stopped raising. It actually went down. That's the problem the global warming gurus were all fired up about in their e-mails.

So you agree that there was global warming up until '95?


The website[1] of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration contains detailed data of the annual land and ocean temperature since 1880.[2]

Each of the last 12 years (1997-2008) was one of the warmest on record. These years could be the warmest years for the last several thousand years according to the temperature record, not just since 1880, but the most recent data is the most accurate
 
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So you agree that there was global warming up until '95?


The website[1] of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration contains detailed data of the annual land and ocean temperature since 1880.[2]

Each of the last 12 years (1997-2008) was one of the warmest on record. These years could be the warmest years for the last several thousand years according to the temperature record, not just since 1880, but the most recent data is the most accurate

I really don't know. there have been questions concerning the accuracy of the data, the placement of the temperature stations and the data itself. The raw data from the east anglia research center has, apparently, been lost/destroyed.

Concerning the data from the noaa, I don't know. Assuming the data is correct, and assuming the data is accurate, two big unknowns, that would give us an average temperature increase of something like 1 deg far in the last century. It also means the computer simulations which mann bases his hockey stick predictions didn't predict the stall in temperature increase in the last 15 years or so. I find that significant.
 
It also means the computer simulations which mann bases his hockey stick predictions didn't predict the stall in temperature increase in the last 15 years or so. I find that significant.

The NOAA holds the position that the last twelve years were some of the warmest on record. I do believe NASA supports that position too.
 
The NOAA holds the position that the last twelve years were some of the warmest on record. I do believe NASA supports that position too.

Would that be the same NASA that is no longer exploring space but following Obama's directive to concentrate on global warming? Is that the NASA you are refering to?

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Obama Is No Kennedy: Redefines NASA’s Mission As Global Warming
Posted January 27th, 2010 at 4:11pm in Ongoing Priorities with 11 comments Print This Post

Today, the Orlando Sentinel reports that President Obama will introduce a budget next week which will cut future exploration funding from NASA, including the planned missions to the Moon and Mars set in motion following the Columbia disaster. On first glance, this may appear to be a budget cutting move to fall in line with the drop-in-a-bucket spending freeze Obama has proposed. But it isn’t. In fact, NASA’s budget is increasing. So if NASA’s budget is increasing, why are exploration plans being put on hold? Obama is halting America’s exploration of the unknown so we can explore…global warming............
 
Would that be the same NASA that is no longer exploring space but following Obama's directive to concentrate on global warming? Is that the NASA you are refering to?

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NASA was a proponent of Global warming long before anyone even knew who Obama was.
Global warming could indeed be the greatest threat to mankind. If it is then don't you think we should star addressing it, instead of wasting money on going to the moon again?

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2003/1023esuice.html
 
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NASA was a proponent of Global warming long before anyone even knew who Obama was.
Global warming could indeed be the greatest threat to mankind. If it is then don't you think we should star addressing it, instead of wasting money on going to the moon again?

NASA - Top Story - RECENT WARMING OF ARCTIC MAY AFFECT WORLDWIDE CLIMATE - October 23, 2003

I'm not willing to give up on space much less trash what's left our economy over the (possible) rise of 1 to 1.5 deg far over the space of one century. On this we are simply going to have to agree to disagree, once again, usa-1.
 
I'm not willing to give up on space much less trash what's left our economy over the (possible) rise of 1 to 1.5 deg far over the space of one century. On this we are simply going to have to agree to disagree, once again, usa-1.

Where in the constitution does it say our government can use our taxdollars for space?
I don't think we should trash our economy either. I believe the answer is not with carbon taxes but with technology and innovation. The money wasted for space could help solve the global climate change problem. Ignoring the problem or denying that it exists will accomplish nothing.


Why do you people assume that just because we believe in global warming, we agree with the policies to address it?
 
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Global warming is a farce all so the government can fool gullible people so they won't feel so bad paying out taxes to save the planet. Screw the planet.
 
Researcher on Climate Is Cleared in Inquiry - NYTimes.com

Oh hey the allegations are false what a surprise.

WASHINGTON — An academic board of inquiry has largely cleared a noted Pennsylvania State University climatologist of scientific misconduct, but a second panel will convene to determine whether his behavior undermined public faith in the science of climate change, the university said Wednesday.
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The scientist, Dr. Michael E. Mann, has been at the center of a dispute arising from the unauthorized release of more than 1,000 e-mail messages from the servers of the University of East Anglia in England, home to one of the world’s premier climate research units.

While the Pennsylvania State inquiry, conducted by three senior faculty members and administrators, absolved Dr. Mann of the most serious charges against him, it is not likely to silence the controversy over climate science. New questions about the work of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, to which Dr. Mann was a significant contributor, have arisen since the hacked e-mail messages surfaced last November.

That faculty board did not look into the science of climate change itself, the university said in announcing its results. That, it said, is “a matter more appropriately left to the profession.”

Dr. Mann was named in 377 of the e-mail messages, including several that critics took to suggest that he had manipulated or destroyed data to strengthen his case that human activity was changing the global climate.

In the best-known message, Phil Jones, a climatologist of the University of East Anglia, refers to a “trick” in a graph produced a decade ago showing 1,000 years of essentially steady global surface temperatures followed by a sharp upward spike in the 20th century, seemingly corresponding to increased levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. The so-called hockey stick graph has become an icon for environmentalists. It was prominently displayed in a 2001 United Nations report concluding that greenhouse gases from human activities had probably caused most of the warming measured since 1950.

In some of the e-mail messages, Dr. Mann refers to his assembly of data from a number of different sources, including ancient tree rings and earth core samples, as a “trick.” Critics pounced on the term and said it was evidence that Dr. Mann and other scientists had manipulated temperature data to support their conclusions. But the Pennsylvania State inquiry board said the term “trick” was used by scientists and mathematicians to refer to an insight that solves a problem. “The so-called trick was nothing more than a statistical method used to bring two or more different kinds of data sets together in a legitimate fashion by a technique that has been reviewed by a broad array of peers in the field,” the panel said.

The e-mail messages also contained suggestions that Dr. Mann had hidden or destroyed e-mail messages and other information relating to a United Nations climate change report to prevent other scientists from reviewing them. Dr. Mann produced the material in question, and the Pennsylvania State board cleared him of the charge.

There were also questions about whether Dr. Mann misused confidential data and engaged in a conspiracy with like-minded scientists to withhold information from competing scholars. The board found nothing to support the charge.

Dr. Mann, in an e-mail response to a request for comment, said he was pleased that the panel had found “no evidence of any of the allegations against me.”

“Three of the four allegations have been dismissed completely,” he wrote. “Even though no evidence to substantiate the fourth allegation was found, the University administrators thought it best to convene a separate committee of distinguished scientists to resolve any remaining questions about academic procedures. This is very much the vindication I expected since I am confident I have done nothing wrong.”

Senator James M. Inhofe, Republican of Oklahoma, a skeptic of climate change called for an independent investigation. “We need to reassure the American people that their tax dollars are supporting objective scientific research rather than political agendas,” he said.

This article has been revised to reflect the following correction:

Correction: February 8, 2010
An article on Thursday about an academic inquiry that largely cleared a Pennsylvania State University climatologist, Michael E. Mann, of scientific misconduct misattributed an e-mailed comment about a “trick” used in combining temperature data. Phil Jones, a climatologist of the University of East Anglia, sent the e-mail message, not Dr. Mann. (The inquiry board found that Dr. Mann’s use of the data was legitimate and noted that “trick” is a term used by scientists to refer to an insight that solves a problem.)
 
faculty board did not look into the science of climate change itself

The scientist was cleared of any unprofessional behavior. That's nice, but global warming is a hoax. Let me put another log on the fire. I'm still shivering.
 
The scientist was cleared of any unprofessional behavior. That's nice, but global warming is a hoax. Let me put another log on the fire. I'm still shivering.

When did this hoax start? And who created it?
 
When did this hoax start? And who created it?

Back in the late 1960’s the United Nations assigned Canadian Maurice Strong the responsibility of giving form to the nascent concept of global warming. Actually the climate change issue started with predictions of a coming Ice Age, but that theme was quickly abandoned in favour of the warming scenario. The earth’s apparent rapid warming gained traction first at a UN conference held in Switzerland in 1971.

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=17244

And the politicians and hand-wringers took it from there.
 
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Politicians created the lies.

I thought it was scientists that promoted the global warming/greenhouse effect theories over 40 years ago.
 
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