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Earliest mention of Climate Change in the media

Please explain what your opinion is to what I am misconstruing.

It's not my opinion.. it is the articles in which you take a partial sentence, do not examine the entire sentence, and make a judgement based on three words taken out of context. That is .. highly anti-intellectual.
 
It's not my opinion.. it is the articles in which you take a partial sentence, do not examine the entire sentence, and make a judgement based on three words taken out of context. That is .. highly anti-intellectual.

I see you don't show us the example.

So be it.
 
Thanks for confirming that you have access to only a small part of the literature.

I never claimed otherwise. How many times have you repeatedly lied, trying to convince people I only have access to one?

You have proven you have absolutely no integrity!
 
So you claim I have never worked in engineering departments...

Why are you wasting my time?

Why are you wasting humanity's time. Please note the lack of a question mark, you won't be able to respond to that substantively any more than you could respond to my other questions.

You can't fake expertise.
 
Why are you wasting humanity's time. Please note the lack of a question mark, you won't be able to respond to that substantively any more than you could respond to my other questions.

You can't fake expertise.
Since you are new to the group, perhaps you should articulate what you think the ECS for doubling the CO2 level is and why?
and please cite publication, or outline your math in support of you position.
 
Why are you wasting humanity's time. Please note the lack of a question mark, you won't be able to respond to that substantively any more than you could respond to my other questions.

You can't fake expertise.

You said that I haven't done the work.

You are full of stupid assumptions.
 
It's not my opinion.. it is the articles in which you take a partial sentence, do not examine the entire sentence, and make a judgement based on three words taken out of context. That is .. highly anti-intellectual.

Care to share any particular example with us, or are you talking from where the sun doesn't shine?

Are you saying you have never read a paper that uses assumptions that end up as implied fact in the conclusions? What about how ambiguous some are?

Oh wait...

I get it...

You have probably never read a climate paper.

I think its safe to assume you have only read what bloggers or other pundits say about a paper.

Am I right or wrong?

What is you source for climate science facts?
 
Why are you wasting humanity's time. Please note the lack of a question mark, you won't be able to respond to that substantively any more than you could respond to my other questions.

You can't fake expertise.

Do you by chance have any questions worth a serious response, or just all these accusations about me, when you don't know me?
 
I never claimed otherwise. How many times have you repeatedly lied, trying to convince people I only have access to one?

You have proven you have absolutely no integrity!

Sorry. You have access to TWO.

Mea magna culpa.
 
Sorry. You have access to TWO.

Mea magna culpa.

LOL...

You really want me to call you a troll, so you can complain to the moderators, and get me sanctioned.

Don't you?

Keep trying.

You only reveal your ignorance and lack of integrity to all.
Or perhaps, you have a comprehension problem, with simple words like "several?"

Maybe you should pull out a dictionary, and see if "two" qualifies as "several" when I say I subscribe to "several" journals...
 
Yes, it is. Especially the climate sciences that have so many variables with such huge error margins.

So what crap am I shoveling? I'm sorry, but I can only assume your bias, and I don't like guessing.

In the sadly defunct Political Asylum of the Audio Asylum, we had a guy that was one of the IPCC guys. It was hilarious watching him dismantle idiots.

You pack in a lot of mistakes and propaganda. I'm not going to chase your ignorance around while you pretend nothing happened.

You repeat propaganda, you don't demonstrate a working knowledge of that science, of post grad methodology or even the culture of science.
 
In the sadly defunct Political Asylum of the Audio Asylum, we had a guy that was one of the IPCC guys. It was hilarious watching him dismantle idiots.

You pack in a lot of mistakes and propaganda. I'm not going to chase your ignorance around while you pretend nothing happened.

You repeat propaganda, you don't demonstrate a working knowledge of that science, of post grad methodology or even the culture of science.

Still no example of my propaganda.

Just empty words.

I will ask again, do you read climate related journals, or are your parroting what the pundits say?
 
Still no example of my propaganda.

Just empty words.

I will ask again, do you read climate related journals, or are your parroting what the pundits say?

That's a good example of your act.

This isn't a scientific forum, you aren't a scientist, and the scientific community has accepted the theory.

You can fake it all you want, but at the end of the day you're a propagandist who can't walk the walk.
 
Care to share any particular example with us, or are you talking from where the sun doesn't shine?

Are you saying you have never read a paper that uses assumptions that end up as implied fact in the conclusions? What about how ambiguous some are?

Oh wait...

I get it...

You have probably never read a climate paper.

I think its safe to assume you have only read what bloggers or other pundits say about a paper.

Am I right or wrong?

What is you source for climate science facts?

You are wrong. However,facts don't seem to matter. I don't see you actually citing any.


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That's a good example of your act.

This isn't a scientific forum, you aren't a scientist, and the scientific community has accepted the theory.

You can fake it all you want, but at the end of the day you're a propagandist who can't walk the walk.

LOL...

You assumptions are funny.

I am a scientist!

Maybe you should pull your head out from where the sun doesn't shine.
 
You are wrong. However,facts don't seem to matter. I don't see you actually citing any.


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No reason to cite any at the moment.

Why should I waste my time looking things up for those who can't carry on a scientific discussion?

Isn't enough that I have proven the lot of you don't understand the relevance that "words have meaning?"
 
You warmers are so damn funny at times. You say the darndest things.

 
LOL...

You assumptions are funny.

I am a scientist!

Maybe you should pull your head out from where the sun doesn't shine.

You said you were an engineer, which I can believe.

The rest is your ego writing checks your intellect can't cash.

Since you're a bad joke, which planar speakers do you have?
 
You said you were an engineer, which I can believe.

The rest is your ego writing checks your intellect can't cash.

Since you're a bad joke, which planar speakers do you have?

I was involved in CMP (Chemical Mechanical Planarization) in the 90's, rapid research and development.

I see that you still fail to understand that "words have meaning," and its often a meaning outside of your confirmation bias.

And you are going to be so ignorant and arrogant to claim my ego is writing checks my intellect can't cash?

My God...

Warmers do say the darndest things!

May I suggest you look up the definition of "scientist?"

Maybe if you understood the English language better, you would stop looking like a fool...
 
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This is impressive.

We know AGW had been discussed in the 80s, and even (despite denier confusion) in the 60s and 70s, and I believe I posted a TV clip here from the late 50s.

But Andrew Revkin found a great one... going back to 1912.

News Coverage of Coal’s Link to Global Warming, in 1912 - NYTimes.com



In 1984 I did a lengthy TV news story about a Simon Fraser University Professor investigating the "theory" that the earth was warming.....over millinia. Thew peace closed with me doing a stand up atop the hill that makes downtown Vancouver, dressed in a bathing suit in 'T" about this time of year with the closing "...this spot with be sun and surf....we just need to wait a few hundred thousand years"

Next time I looked, we had nine years to live.
 
That's a good example of your act.

This isn't a scientific forum, you aren't a scientist, and the scientific community has accepted the theory.

You can fake it all you want, but at the end of the day you're a propagandist who can't walk the walk.
You have not described what you think the ECS would be for doubling the CO2 level and support that conclusion
with ether citations or math.
The IPCC publishes a range (and a very large range at that) of 1.5 to 4.5 C, with an input of 1.2 C from the
greenhouse effect of doubling the CO2 level.
When you say the scientific community has accepted the theory, you should perhaps identify which theory you are speaking of.
The Scientific community does mostly agree that adding greenhouse gasses causes some warming, but that was not really in question.
What is questioned, is the amount of warming from a doubling of CO2.
The recent Physics says that doubling the CO2 level will create an energy imbalance of 3.71 watts per meter square (Wm-2),
and this would cause the surface troposphere system temperature to increase by 1.2 C.
That is the Science portion of the IPCC prediction.
The IPCC goes on to say they believe that amplified feedbacks exists that would add
between .3 and 3.3 C of additional warming to the 1.2 C.
So Science 1.2 C
Belief .3C to 3.3C
What is real? The prediction based on actual observed data, places the ECS at between 1.8 and 2 C.
The last IPCC report AR5 did not state a best estimate of ECS, but an article from many of the lead authors,
places the best estimate at about 2 C.
https://www.ethz.ch/content/dam/eth...documents/group/climphys/knutti/otto13nat.pdf
 
That conversation is over.

We need to start working the problem(s).

The first step is an incremental Carbon Tax.

LOL...

Saw that coming from your indoctrinated thinking, a mile away.

LOL...

Carbon tax...

LOL...

LOL...

Just how expensive, and regressive of a tax do you want to burden low income people with, anyway?
 
Saw that coming from your indoctrinated thinking, a mile away.

Every year, in it's annual energy issue, The Economist politely suggests we get a carbon tax.

They're not the propagandists.
 
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