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Resolved: Environmentalists Hate Humans

Jack Hays said:
Anti-human rhetoric has been a staple of environmentalism for decades.
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LOL! GO ahead and support that laughble claim. I'll wait.
"Sustainable" growth is code for less growth, and that translates to more poverty. What makes this rhetoric especially repugnant is that it is routinely offered by those in comfortable life situations who can be confident the consequences will have nothing to do with themselves.
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Wrong. It's code for maintaing growth that is sustainable. Words have meanings. I suggest you take that to heart. The world will be less frightening and confusing that way.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
LOL! GO ahead and support that laughble claim. I'll wait.

Wrong. It's code for maintaing growth that is sustainable. Words have meanings. I suggest you take that to heart. The world will be less frightening and confusing that way.
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Please see Nos. 37, 38 and 40.
 
Jack Hays said:
Please see Nos. 37, 38 and 40.
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Your claim was this: "Anti-human rhetoric has been a staple of environmentalism for decades."

You have yet to substantiate that claim with that you submitted. Pretending that it does is simply intellectual dishonesty.
 
Jack Hays said:
And yet poverty decreases most where growth is strongest.
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Sigh. Will your intellectual dishonesty ever cease?

You claim was that it 'cured' it. I demonstrated that is has not done so.

Now you're changing your story to 'decreases most'.

The history of Hong Kong, for example, amply demonstrates that.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Your claim was this: "Anti-human rhetoric has been a staple of environmentalism for decades."

You have yet to substantiate that claim with that you submitted. Pretending that it does is simply intellectual dishonesty.
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We'll have to disagree. The case is closed. Move on.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Sigh. Will your intellectual dishonesty ever cease?

You claim was that it 'cured' it. I demonstrated that is has not done so.

Now you're changing your story to 'decreases most'.

The history of Hong Kong, for example, amply demonstrates that.
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Thank you for conceding the point.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Cool with me. You were dishonest. I called you on it.

Same old, same old.
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Tanngrisnir said:
Good of you to admit to defeat, but odd that you would lash out in impotent rage at that fact that your point was dismantled.

Your rage is boring.
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Denial is not an argument. As Edward G. Robinson said to Steve McQueen in The Cincinnati Kid, "You're not ready for me, kid."
 
Jack Hays said:
Denial is not an argument. As Edward G. Robinson said to Steve McQueen in The Cincinnati Kid, "You're not ready for me, kid."
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You made a claim.

Your were challenged on it.

What you offered in defense was irrelevant to your claim.

You still haven't made your case.

Sorry to have slapped you down again.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
You made a claim.

Your were challenged on it.

What you offered in defense was irrelevant to your claim.

You still haven't made your case.

Sorry to have slapped you down again.
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The next time you do that will be the first time.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Whatever you have to tell yourself to maintain the fantasy.

Sorry you weren't up to defending you claim.

You never have been.

I find that sad.
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“It is indisputable that the being whose capacities of enjoyment are low, has the greatest chance of having them fully satisfied; and a highly endowed being will always feel that any happiness which he can look for, as the world is constituted, is imperfect. But he can learn to bear its imperfections, if they are at all bearable; and they will not make him envy the being who is indeed unconscious of the imperfections, but only because he feels not at all the good which those imperfections qualify.

It is better to be a human being dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied. And if the fool, or the pig, is of a different opinion, it is only because they only know their own side of the question.”
― John Stuart Mill
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Whatever you have to tell yourself to maintain the fantasy.

Sorry you weren't up to defending you claim.

You never have been.

I find that sad.
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So when Dave Foreman, one of the co founders of Earth First says,
“We humans have become a disease — the Humanpox.”
What is he talking about?
https://www.activistfacts.com/person/3454-dave-foreman/
Or when Ted Turner says,
“A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.”
What does he mean by saying it would be ideal if 285 million of us were not here?
https://timetoopenyoureyesdotcom.wo...-ideal-ted-turner-interview-audubon-magazine/
 
Jack Hays said:
“It is indisputable that the being whose capacities of enjoyment are low, has the greatest chance of having them fully satisfied; and a highly endowed being will always feel that any happiness which he can look for, as the world is constituted, is imperfect. But he can learn to bear its imperfections, if they are at all bearable; and they will not make him envy the being who is indeed unconscious of the imperfections, but only because he feels not at all the good which those imperfections qualify.

It is better to be a human being dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied. And if the fool, or the pig, is of a different opinion, it is only because they only know their own side of the question.”
― John Stuart Mill
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Your talent for posting irrelevancies when you're beaten is unmatched.
 
longview said:
So when Dave Foreman, one of the co founders of Earth First says,
“We humans have become a disease — the Humanpox.”
What is he talking about?
https://www.activistfacts.com/person/3454-dave-foreman/
Or when Ted Turner says,
“A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.”
What does he mean by saying it would be ideal if 285 million of us were not here?
https://timetoopenyoureyesdotcom.wo...-ideal-ted-turner-interview-audubon-magazine/
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You seem to be equally confuzzled.

Here was the original claim: "anti-human rhetoric has been a staple of environmentalism for decades."

What you've posted is an admision of your defeat. It doesn't support the that claim.

Good of you to go belly-up
 
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