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Record setting global hear in January

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Looks like 2016 is already breaking records on the heels of a record breaking 2015 and the formerly record breaking 2014.

As the models have accurately predicted decades ago, we are living in the warmest month of the warmest years of the warmest decade we've ever recorded.

January 2016 was Earth's warmest month yet.
 
And the hits just keep on coming.
 
Threegoofs said:
Looks like 2016 is already breaking records on the heels of a record breaking 2015 and the formerly record breaking 2014.

As the models have accurately predicted decades ago, we are living in the warmest month of the warmest years of the warmest decade we've ever recorded.

January 2016 was Earth's warmest month yet.
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This in a time where solar radiation is at an ebb.

Troubling.
 
And looks like the Arctic ice is at an all time low for this time of year, too.

Current year in yellow:

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The data seems so obvious, but to join in another DP thread on Climate Change that will almost assuredly deteriorate into mayhem is something I'm going to avoid at this time.

But I wish you all well.
 
One would think that at least, with all this warming, we'd have to be turning the heaters off and the A/C on once or twice. Alas, no such luck.
 
clownboy said:
One would think that at least, with all this warming, we'd have to be turning the heaters off and the A/C on once or twice. Alas, no such luck.
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It looks like we may have to turn the A/C on for a day here in KC this week.
 
Could've fooled me. I've been freezing my arse off more often than not.
 
You won't hear much out of the deniers on this one until one of their crackpot blogs gives them their marching orders.
 
clownboy said:
One would think that at least, with all this warming, we'd have to be turning the heaters off and the A/C on once or twice. Alas, no such luck.
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We have already come close here in North Texas and by Friday we probably will be here, NOT normal for February, not even here in Texas.
 
Casper said:
We have already come close here in North Texas and by Friday we probably will be here, NOT normal for February, not even here in Texas.
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And do you believe we are all somehow responsible for your weather ?
 
This is looking to be a very strong El Niño, almost as strong as 1998.
It is not unexpected to see some warm months.
At least this warm month is real enough to show up in all the data sets.
Still not a record month in RSS, but one of the warmest months.
 
flogger said:
Why ? What harm is it doing ?
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Point being that even with reduced solar heat/radiation the earth is getting hotter and hotter. Just think what it might be like if the sun was in a period of max activity.
 
I wonder if this record global 'hear' in the thread title means that everybody was listening more intently than ever last month ? :lol:
 
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Threegoofs said:
Looks like 2016 is already breaking records on the heels of a record breaking 2015 and the formerly record breaking 2014.

As the models have accurately predicted decades ago, we are living in the warmest month of the warmest years of the warmest decade we've ever recorded.

January 2016 was Earth's warmest month yet.
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Winter has been lovely here so far. The flora is exploding in life with mimosa and daffodils and and almonds in full blume.
 
Soho gator said:
Point being that even with reduced solar heat/radiation the earth is getting hotter and hotter. Just think what it might be like if the sun was in a period of max activity.
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Yes indeed . We would probably have bumper harvests due to a more optimal growing season globally . Whats not to like ? :thumbs:
 
flogger said:
And do you believe we are all somehow responsible for your weather ?
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If we are going to point to unusually cold weather we have to also look at unusually hot weather. Hot and cold weather is one small indicator of Weather Change, the reality is we have enjoyed a long time of unusually stable weather, it looks like change is that Is coming. Is mankind at fault? The jury is still out there, but if the question is could we have Something to do with the changes, yes that is possible, we have already proven we can effect every other ecological system so why not the climate. My only suggestion is and always has been this: we are not the owners of this Planet, we are only the caretakers for the next generation and this is the Only planet we have, hence we should do everything in out power to preserve the planet and all that lives on it, if we do not then we deserve exactly what we get. Where the reptiles, birds, fish and mammals go today, We go tomorrow.
 
Soho gator said:
Point being that even with reduced solar heat/radiation the earth is getting hotter and hotter. Just think what it might be like if the sun was in a period of max activity.
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While there is clearly a relationship between TSI (Solar radiation) and the earth's temperature,
the latencies of the system are poorly understood.
Add to that, there are several cyclic patterns that overlap, and we get a very complex system.
I think the current best guess, places the lag between changes in TSI vs earth's temperature,
is about 11 years.
 
flogger said:
Yes indeed . We would probably have bumper harvests due to a more optimal growing season globally . Whats not to like ? :thumbs:
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Yeah because high heat in Americas bread basket isn't associated with drought.
 
flogger said:
I wonder if this record global 'hear' in the thread title means that everybody was listening more intently than ever last month ? :lol:
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I here ya'!
 
Casper said:
If we are going to point to unusually cold weather we have to also look at unusually hot weather. Hot and cold weather is one small indicator of Weather Change, the reality is we have enjoyed a long time of unusually stable weather, it looks like change is that Is coming. Is mankind at fault? The jury is still out there, but if the question is could we have Something to do with the changes, yes that is possible, we have already proven we can effect every other ecological system so why not the climate. My only suggestion is and always has been this: we are not the owners of this Planet, we are only the caretakers for the next generation and this is the Only planet we have, hence we should do everything in out power to preserve the planet and all that lives on it, if we do not then we deserve exactly what we get. Where the reptiles, birds, fish and mammals go today, We go tomorrow.
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I have never subscribed to the view that mankind is guilty until proven innocent of every inclement weather event just because the environmentalists say so. They have had a pretty sinister anti human agenda on the back burner for some decades now.

BTW the max temperature record for Texas was set in 1994. The 30s were historically the warmest period in the US with some 23 states still holding records for that decade.

Beware the hype
 
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longview said:
This is looking to be a very strong El Niño, almost as strong as 1998.
It is not unexpected to see some warm months.
At least this warm month is real enough to show up in all the data sets.
Still not a record month in RSS, but one of the warmest months.
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RSS is an anomaly. I find it rather ironic that skeptics would on one hand complain about climate prediction being based on models, while on the other hand cherry picking satellite datasets that don't even directly measure temperature and whose datasets are entirely calculated with models.
 
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Soho gator said:
Yeah because high heat in Americas bread basket isn't associated with drought.
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Higher temperatures make for longer growing seasons and with the benefit extra CO2 that means greater yields

Thats a good thing
 
flogger said:
Higher temperatures make for longer growing seasons and with the benefit extra CO2 that means greater yields

Thats a good thing
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That all depends where you are at. Higher temperatures and thus longer growing seasons in Northern Europe is on balance a good thing for crop yields. However, in the Southern and Central Plains, higher temps is a big negative in terms of crop yields as summers were oppressive to begin with.
 
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