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NYC 73° Christmas Eve, 60° all Month. Whole Midlantic/NE

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http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/l/10001

Does not GW make, but a MUCH wider geographic and time swath than the Goofy Snow Job OP "Dumping on Denver."
I mean, who has the temerity to post that silly anecdote when the retort is so obvious/Overwhelming?
75° forecast in DC and Atlanta, 67° in Boston for the 'eve.'

I believe December is the traditionally the lowest avg temp month.
This one looks like the Warmest of ALL time in much of the NE/Midlantic/etc.
A Large area, for a much longer time than a snowstorm in Denver.
 
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mbig said:
http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/l/10001

Does not GW make, but a MUCH wider geographic and time swath than the Goofy Snow Job OP "Dumping on Denver."
I mean, who has the temerity to post that silly anecdote when the retort is so obvious/Overwhelming?
75° forecast in DC and Atlanta, 67° in Boston for the 'eve.'

I believe December is the traditionally the lowest avg temp month.
This one looks like the Warmest of ALL time in much of the NE/Midlantic/etc.
A Large area, for a much longer time than a snowstorm in Denver.
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Bigtime record-breaking El Ninjo this year, and I'm not complaining!

I mean, a 70-80 buck heating bill in the far northern U.S. in December? For a two-story house? Get outta' here! :thumbs:

But it is January that's the coldest month in North America.

(even though Dec 23 is the winter solstice)
 
Chomsky said:
Bigtime record-breaking El Ninjo this year, and I'm not complaining!
I mean, a 70-80 buck heating bill in the far northern U.S. in December? For a two-story house? Get outta' here! :thumbs:
But it is January that's the coldest month in North America.
(even though Dec 23 is the winter solstice)
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I stand corrected on the coldest month..
of course, you missed the solstice by a day.
:^)

and this still looks like it will be a record High December for a good chunk of the country.
 
mbig said:
I stand corrected on the coldest month..
of course, you missed the solstice by a day.
:^)

and this still looks like it will be a record High December for a good chunk of the country.
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Yeah, the solstice varies year-to-year.

But I'm dead-nuts on about cheap heating bills! :mrgreen:

And where I live, this pattern and temps is expected until at least mid Jan!
 
The OP is really speaking to weather but climate is changing like a bitch. Here in central Florida I doubt it's hit freezing for more than a couple of hours in more than 4 years . I remember as a child seeing snow flurries in Miami. That's not happening in the foreseeable future.
 
Soho gator said:
The OP is really speaking to weather but climate is changing like a bitch. Here in central Florida I doubt it's hit freezing for more than a couple of hours in more than 4 years . I remember as a child seeing snow flurries in Miami. That's not happening in the foreseeable future.
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Yes, and I prefaced that way.. "Does not GW make".
And I also said this string was a retort to the Incredibly Narrower Snowstorm OP "Dumping on Denver" just below, who Did try to abuse a much tinier "geographic and time" event as Climate.

BTW, I've spent lots of time in SE Florida last 8 years or so. Just bought a place.
 
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mbig said:
http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/l/10001

Does not GW make, but a MUCH wider geographic and time swath than the Goofy Snow Job OP "Dumping on Denver."
I mean, who has the temerity to post that silly anecdote when the retort is so obvious/Overwhelming?
75° forecast in DC and Atlanta, 67° in Boston for the 'eve.'

I believe December is the traditionally the lowest avg temp month.
This one looks like the Warmest of ALL time in much of the NE/Midlantic/etc.
A Large area, for a much longer time than a snowstorm in Denver.
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The man made climate change believers usually only say that if there is snow. But if it is the opposite like drought or slightly higher temperatures then they claim it is evidence of man made climate change.
 
jamesrage said:
The man made climate change believers usually only say that if there is snow. But if it is the opposite like drought or slightly higher temperatures then they claim it is evidence of man made climate change.
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The OP is evidence to the opposite.
 
People should be celebrating global warming. Makes life easier.
 
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climate change is lie :lamo
 
longview said:
I guess if a similar December occurred 55 years ago in Britain, it doe snot count as an unprecedented event.
The reality is, a warm spell in December is just weather.
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Tornados in Texas in December is odd
 
longview said:
I guess if a similar December occurred 55 years ago in Britain, it doe snot count as an unprecedented event.
The reality is, a warm spell in December is just weather.
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My First words in this string:
Does not GW make..​
I'm not one to confuse weather and climate.
This string is NOT proof of anything, it's anecdotal.
However, if/As Global Temperature rises, more temp records would be set more widely.
So it is consistent, if Not anywhere near conclusive.
Many cities in a wide Region of this country alone will have set a few daily records by 10° in December, and many more, monthly high temp records.
Never seen anything like it and I'm getting up there.
Then to also see it across the pond, gives one pause.
I think these strings, tho Not proof, or even necessarily evidence, have more impact on the average reader than any study.
 
mbig said:
My First words in this string:
Does not GW make..​
I'm not one to confuse weather and climate.
This string is NOT proof of anything, it's anecdotal.
However, if/As Global Temperature rises, more temp records would be set more widely.
So it is consistent, if Not anywhere near conclusive.
Many cities in a wide Region of this country alone will have set a few daily records by 10° in December, and many more, monthly high temp records.
Never seen anything like it and I'm getting up there.
Then to also see it across the pond, gives one pause.
I think these strings, tho Not proof, or even necessarily evidence, have more impact on the average reader than any study.
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The concept of AGW, if the recent warming is evidence, would cause mostly nighttime lows not going as low.
There has been almost no change in daytime highs.
Analysis of diurnal air temperature range change in the continental United States
The average temperature has increased mostly (75%) by an increased in nighttime lows.
 
mbig said:
http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/l/10001

Does not GW make, but a MUCH wider geographic and time swath than the Goofy Snow Job OP "Dumping on Denver."
I mean, who has the temerity to post that silly anecdote when the retort is so obvious/Overwhelming?
75° forecast in DC and Atlanta, 67° in Boston for the 'eve.'

I believe December is the traditionally the lowest avg temp month.
This one looks like the Warmest of ALL time in much of the NE/Midlantic/etc.
A Large area, for a much longer time than a snowstorm in Denver.
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January is the lowest avg temp month followed by feb , December is third.
Second people have short memories 73 is NYC isn't the record it was 75 in 1998.
1998 was also the record for Boston ( 76 deg ), its unseasonably war in the east, but not record breaking. its quite cold in the mtn west, but also not record breaking.
 
SocialD said:
January is the lowest avg temp month followed by feb , December is third.
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You really need to learn to read the string... even a little.
This was pointed out and conceded by me in the 2nd and 3rd posts. WTF!

SocialD said:
Second people have short memories 73 is NYC isn't the record it was 75 in 1998.
1998 was also the record for Boston (76 deg ), its unseasonably war in the east, but not record breaking. its quite cold in the mtn west, but also not record breaking.
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Really?
https://www.google.com/search?q=nyc....11271j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8
Whether it's "record breaking" remains to be seen.
I believe December, (not just a/the mere day) WILL be a record breaker for much of the East.
We'll know in a few days.
I will be glad to post the results either way.
Unlike most Partisan Hacks here.

My what shallow and sloppy counterpoint. (the anti-science 'like' proving it beyond all doubt)
Now, why don't you go over and bash the much more Fallacious "Dumping on Denver" string which sought to Prove it couldn't be warming if it was snowing in Denver!
While I several times explicitly expointed out My post's Larger/more protracted weather, was ""NOT "proof", or even ecessarily evidence"", of Warming.
 
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Corrected reply II. Ran out of Edit time.
You would think someone making such a specific refutation had done a bit of research!

SocialD said:
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Second people have short memories 73 is NYC isn't the record it was 75 in 1998.
1998 was also the record for Boston ( 76 deg ), its unseasonably war in the east, but not record breaking. its quite cold in the mtn west, but also not record breaking.
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LINK?

NYC temperatures soar, Shattering previous Records on balmy Christmas Eve; Highs nearly reach same temperature as July 4
By Rich Shapiro New York Daily News
Friday, December 25, 2015
NYC temperatures soar for record highs on Christmas Eve - NY Daily News
It's beginning to look a lot like — summer.

Temperatures soared in the city Thursday, making it the Warmest Christmas Eve on Record by a Wide Margin.

Just after midnight, the city Shattered the record high of 63° set in 1996, meteorologists said.

The mercury climbed to 72° in Central Park, just 3° below the high temperature recorded on the Fourth of July.
[......]
Meteorologists are predicting that Christmas Day will also set a new record high for the city.
Temps are expected to reach a balmy 66°, 2° Above the Record set in 1982.
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You gotta love Who gave you a 'like' for your Spectacularly WRONG and undocumented Claim.
 
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mbig said:
Corrected reply II. Ran out of Edit time.
You would think someone making such a specific refutation had done a bit of research!

LINK?


NYC temperatures soar, Shattering previous Records on balmy Christmas Eve; Highs nearly reach same temperature as July 4
By Rich Shapiro New York Daily News
Friday, December 25, 2015
NYC temperatures soar for record highs on Christmas Eve - NY Daily News
You gotta love Who gave you a 'like' for your Spectacularly WRONG and undocumented Claim.
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The New York City is per the Western Regional Climate Center as measured at La Guardia airport .
New York City Climate Records and Averages

As far as averages you can see the average temperature is colder in Jan and Feb than December and its this way for most locations in the country.
 
Lord of Planar said:
People should be celebrating global warming. Makes life easier.
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..and that's one of the key things that got me questioning AGW. We keep hearing about how disastrous it would be, but the truth is that it would be a good thing (please, no one start on the rising sea levels crap, because that is without a doubt the single dumbest thing that the AGW supporters ever came up with). Lowered energy needs for most people, increased growing seasons, expanded arable land, opening of new trade routes - all good things, but if you listen to AGW supporters, you'll hear them being this stuff about 1% of the time.
 
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