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Obama administration designates 2 new marine sanctuaries

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The White House is announcing the designation of two new National Marine Sanctuaries - the first chosen in 15 years - as part of President Barack Obama's efforts to protect the environment. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration will designate a marine sanctuary in the tidal waters of Maryland, and another in Wisconsin's Lake Michigan. To combat illegal fishing, the Obama administration also said it would launch Sea Scout, a global initiative to unite governments and stakeholders in fighting against unreported fishing. Participants will share information and technology to identify and prosecute illegal fishing groups.
 
Great! I'd like to see anyone argue that this is a bad thing..
 
David_N said:
Great! I'd like to see anyone argue that this is a bad thing..
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I am all for Ocean conservation, but sometimes the local State agencies, have a better idea
of what is and is not needed than a distant federal government.
I know in Texas the federal red snapper regulations have resulted in many fat porpoise,
and fewer red snapper.
The mortality rate on released snapper, from what I have seen approaches 100%.
The porpoise seem to enjoy the game much more than the snapper do.
This is just one example, but federal regulation is not always a good thing.
 
David_N said:
Great! I'd like to see anyone argue that this is a bad thing..
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I agree with longview... the FedGov now owns more land/water than it did before.

Actually *we the people own it...we just have no say so in the matter.
 
WCH said:
I agree with longview... the FedGov now owns more land/water than it did before.

Actually *we the people own it...we just have no say so in the matter.
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Oh lord...
 
David_N said:
Oh lord...
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I grew up next to Ft. Hood TX. Back in the 70s they tried to confiscate a good number of people's ranches and farm to create an area large enough to test cruise missiles.

To make a long story short...they lost but, to this day, they still mess with landowners on the periphery of the post.

Once you give the FedGov sole possession of property, they always want more and are always in your business if you live nearby.
 
WCH said:
I grew up next to Ft. Hood TX. Back in the 70s they tried to confiscate a good number of people's ranches and farm to create an area large enough to test cruise missiles.

To make a long story short...they lost but, to this day, they still mess with landowners on the periphery of the post.

Once you give the FedGov sole possession of property, they always want more and are always in your business if you live nearby.
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Whose property will be affected by these marine sanctuaries?
 
David_N said:
Whose property will be affected by these marine sanctuaries?
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Just because no one specific property will be affected, (Still in Question),
does not mean the change in designation cannot harm peoples lives.
I am not that familiar with the Chesapeake bay area, but suspect there are Fishing guides
and commercial fisherman who make their living off of the waters.
There will be secondary vendors who sell bait, food, and fuel, ect.
So it is difficult to say no one will be harmed.
 
longview said:
Just because no one specific property will be affected, (Still in Question),
does not mean the change in designation cannot harm peoples lives.
I am not that familiar with the Chesapeake bay area, but suspect there are Fishing guides
and commercial fisherman who make their living off of the waters.
There will be secondary vendors who sell bait, food, and fuel, ect.
So it is difficult to say no one will be harmed.
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Sucks to be them, preserving our precious marine life is more important.
 
David_N said:
Whose property will be affected by these marine sanctuaries?
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Everyone's along the coastal area or along any tributary that flows in or out of that body of water. There will also be strict regulation on anyone using the area for boating, fishing or other water sport.
 
David_N said:
Sucks to be them, preserving our precious marine life is more important.
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I don't think you understand, many times, federal regulation harms the precious marine life,
because they try to apply a one size fits all solution to some issue.
Sometimes the local authority is better suited to regulate the area.
 
longview said:
I don't think you understand, many times, federal regulation harms the precious marine life,
because they try to apply a one size fits all solution to some issue.
Sometimes the local authority is better suited to regulate the area.
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Maybe so, but if the local authorities aren't doing anything, the Feds have to step in.
 
David_N said:
Maybe so, but if the local authorities aren't doing anything, the Feds have to step in.
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Who says the local authority isn't doing anything? There are questions about what else this designation
brings?
 
longview said:
Who says the local authority isn't doing anything? There are questions about what else this designation
brings?
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It doesn't look like the newly designated sanctuaries were being protected by local authorities, but I may be wrong.
 
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