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The 10 Greenest Presidents in U.S. History

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See link below for a brief legacy of each of these presidents:

Teddy Roosevelt (R)
Jimmy Carter (D)
Thomas Jefferson (D-R)
Bill Clinton (D)
Richard Nixon (R)
Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
Abe Lincoln (R)
Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
Woodrow Wilson (D)
John F. Kennedy (D)

Green Presidents - Environmental Presidents - The Daily Green
 
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Of course Lincoln was the greenest president, have you seen him?

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LOL

The best list is presidents liberals like while the worst list is just presidents the liberals hate.

And Nixon being on both lists is massive amounts of fail.

But what can you expect. The man put in place the EPA, so they're left wondering around lost in their hate. D:
 
Henrin said:
LOL

The best list is presidents liberals like while the worst list is just presidents the liberals hate.

And Nixon being on both lists is massive amounts of fail.

But what can you expect. The man put in place the EPA, so they're left wondering around lost in their hate. D:
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Here's one that will throw you: Reagan implemented Cap and Trade.

Twice.
 
Deuce said:
Here's one that will throw you: Reagan implemented Cap and Trade.

Twice.
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So? Reagan is the confusion of both sides. He is hated by liberals but he is one of them, and loved by conservatives even if he isn't one. He is the dip**** that somehow got everyone confused at the same time. Amusing really.

And it doesn't really throw me. The lists like I said are only based on hate and love of the individuals. If it was based on actual actions of the presidents I would bother to argue the warrant of the actions you brought up. That isn't the case however.
 
Henrin said:
So? Reagan is the confusion of both sides. He is hated by liberals but he is one of them, and loved by conservatives even if he isn't one. He is the dip**** that somehow got everyone confused at the same time. Amusing really.

And it doesn't really throw me. The lists like I said are only based on hate and love of the individuals. If it was based on actual actions of the presidents I would bother to argue the warrant of the actions you brought up. That isn't the case however.
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Well, maybe not you specifically. I just think it's amusing the the great conservative hero actually implemented a plan for reducing pollution that was hailed as a great achievement in market-based solutions but is now referred to as socialism.
 
Teddy Roosevelt - The Father of a Modern Movement

"To begin, when most Americans think of green presidents, they probably envision Theodore Roosevelt (1901-1909). "TR" consistently lobbied Congress for wilderness protection, used the Forest Reserve Act of 1891 to set aside 150 million acres of timberland as public domains, and oversaw creation of the U.S. Forest Service. Roosevelt also created 50 wildlife refuges and five national parks.

Beyond those accomplishments, TR is well remembered as popularizing the ideas of good resource stewardship and respect for nature. That's not to say everything was idyllic in those years of heavy logging, mining, urbanization and rapid human expansion, but seeds of consciousness were sown."

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Teddy Roosevelt in this list is the one and only legitimate title holder IMO, all other are really insignificant and President's such as Nixon who started the EPA violated the constitution in doing so. Now all others (starting with Nixon) for the most part went with the flow, held the line so to speak, therefor by saying this all president had a small hand in the environmental progress that we have seen.
 
Catawba said:
Teddy Roosevelt - The Father of a Modern Movement

"To begin, when most Americans think of green presidents, they probably envision Theodore Roosevelt (1901-1909). "TR" consistently lobbied Congress for wilderness protection, used the Forest Reserve Act of 1891 to set aside 150 million acres of timberland as public domains, and oversaw creation of the U.S. Forest Service. Roosevelt also created 50 wildlife refuges and five national parks.

Beyond those accomplishments, TR is well remembered as popularizing the ideas of good resource stewardship and respect for nature. That's not to say everything was idyllic in those years of heavy logging, mining, urbanization and rapid human expansion, but seeds of consciousness were sown."

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wasn't he a hunter of big game?

didn't he steal panama and then build a canal across it?

still my favorite president, but he wasn't always that green
 
Jimmy Carter - The Sweater-Wearing Efficiency Expert

"In response to the 1973 OPEC oil embargo, President Jimmy Carter (1977-1981) created the Department of Energy in 1977, with a key goal being the establishment of a national energy policy that promoted clean and alternative fuels. Carter famously installed solar panels on the White House roof and set the mansion's thermostats at 68 degrees to save energy.

Carter's 1977 speech calling on the country to drastically ramp up energy efficiency and conservation is truly inspiring and ahead of its time. Backing that up, in 1979, Carter implemented "corporate average fuel economy" (CAFE) standards that mandated fuel-efficient cars -- although those standards would soon be relaxed.

President Carter also oversaw passage of a number of other important laws, including the Soil and Water Conservation Act, the Surface Mining Control and Reclamation Act, the Antarctic Conservation Act, the Endangered American Wilderness Act and the Superfund Act (remember when laws that sound green actually were green?). Tighter amendments were passed on the Clean Air Act, and the Alaskan National Interest Lands Conservation Act conserved more than 100 million acres and 26 rivers in America's Last Frontier.

Since leaving office, Carter has won world renown for his humanitarian work, particularly through Habitat for Humanity, which has recently been going green and promoting green building."

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Thomas Jefferson - The Scientist, Philosopher and Idealist

"Brilliant Renaissance man Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809) is well known as the principal author of the Declaration of Independence. Few also know that Jefferson was an avid botanist, scientist, architect, inventor, planner and philosopher (as well as slave owner, unfortunately). Jefferson believed in respecting and working with nature, and envisioned a society of small farmers living in harmony with the environment.

As president Jefferson sent Lewis and Clark on a groundbreaking voyage of exploration and research across America, after having secured the Louisiana Purchase. So little was known about the continent by whites that the explorers were asked to look for evidence of still-living wooly mammoths. Lewis and Clark then became the first to document many of America's indigenous species, as well as peoples.

Thomas Jefferson also founded a pioneering institution of higher learning, the University of Virginia, and advocated for good public education, including science. He also thought corporate power should be kept in check."

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Wow, he sent people out on a hike and didn't want a corporate state, what a greenie. :roll:
 
Bill Clinton - Not Perfect, but Still Pretty Good

"Environmentalists often sigh when they muse on Bill Clinton's legacy (1993-2001), which isn't as green as one might hope, particularly since he had Al Gore as Vice President. During the Clinton years resource extraction on public lands proceeded at record pace. The administration is also blamed for being unable to secure support for the Kyoto Protocol or other major efforts to prevent global warming.

Clinton did get quite a number of things done, however. He used executive orders to create 17 new national monuments, and expand four more, preserving more than 4.6 million acres, more than any other administration. Clinton also increased protection for wetlands and old-growth forests and finalized a sweeping rule that banned road building on nearly 60 million acres of wilderness in national forests. The administration also extended an existing moratorium on offshore oil leases -- something that is now hotly debated.

Clinton did secure more than $3 billion -- a 50% increase in annual funding -- to research and develop clean energy technologies. He also strengthened the Drinking Water Act, advanced cleanup of Superfund sites, and bolstered the EPA's ability to go after polluters (something else that wouldn't last)."

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Deuce said:
Here's one that will throw you: Reagan implemented Cap and Trade.

Twice.
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What a load of BS. If you would like to compare what Regan did about CFC’s and the current attempt by the UN to control C02 we can do that. You are comparing apples to oranges here.
 
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What a load of BS. If you would like to compare what Regan did about CFC’s and the current attempt by the UN to control C02 we can do that. You are comparing apples to oranges here.
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OK, you've made your claim very rudely (as seems to be your style) .....................now what do you have to back it up? Reagan did implement pollution credit trading (commonly known today as Cap and Trade) to reduce CFCs, and it worked! Where is your evidence to the contrary?
 
Richard Nixon - The Reluctant Environmentalist

"Richard Nixon (1969-1974) was president during tumultuous times, and is consistently rated as one of the country's most disliked leaders, in no small part because of his role in the Watergate scandal. But Richard Nixon had also faced tremendous pressure to do something for the environment, after 20 million people took to the streets on Earth Day in 1970.

Responding to a 60s-era public, Nixon signed the bills that established the Environmental Protection Agency and the landmark Clean Air Act. Going further, in 1972 Nixon signed the Coastal Zone Management Act; the Ocean Dumping Act; the Marine Mammal Protection Act; the Federal Insecticide, Fungide, Rodenticide Act; and the Toxic Substances Control Act. Nixon's term also saw passage of the Endangered Species Act in 1973 and the Safe Drinking Water Act in 1974."

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Catawba said:
9 U.S. Presidents with the Worst Environmental Record

William McKinley (R)
Richard Nixon (R)
Andrew Jackson (D)
Herbert Hoover (R)
Warren Harding (R)
Dwight D. Eisenhower (R)
Ulysses S Grant (R)
Ronald Reagan (R)
George W. Bush (R)
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What about George Washington? I hear he was quite fond of chopping down cherry trees.
 
GPS_Flex said:
What a load of BS. If you would like to compare what Regan did about CFC’s and the current attempt by the UN to control C02 we can do that. You are comparing apples to oranges here.
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What? Talk about apples and oranges!

The ozone hole was a WELL documented result of CFCs (and some other chemicals). There was no doubt. The chemicals were, in fact and beyond all argument, depleting the ozone layer. The hole had grown significantly and was getting bigger. The impact would, without doubt, be seriously bad. We stopped the CFCs, the hole stopped growing. It has since moved towards the equator and is splitting into two pieces. The depletion is not finished screwing us. The effects continue and will continue into the forseeable future. Were it not for us stopping the CFCs, we woulda definately had a damn big problem on our hands.

Global warming must be evaluated in regard to the amount which is anthropogenic, and one must determine the impact of CO2 within many other significant gasses. There is argument about AGW in the first place (I go with 10-30% anthropo), how much CO2 is involved in the long term, what other factors are involved, our ability to influence the event even if we have been contributing significantly... and just about every other aspect of global warming.

Comparing the ozone hole and CFCs (in the US, we waited for real proof) and global warming and CO2 (in the UN, where hysteria is the name of the game) is comparing apples and oranges.

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Of course Teddy (national parks) and Dick (clear water or air, Engangered Species Act and EPA) are the top 2.

Who did the sulfur regs with cap and trade? That was Reagan? It was a resounding success. After we set the cap and trade into affect, we discovered technology that greatly reduced sulfur emissions, quickly rendering the C&T system for sulfer obsolete and the industry spanky clean. Perhaps the discovery of the tect was not related to the C&T program, meh, what happened happened.

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I think the next big enviro president will not be because of energy. It will be the one that deals with the farm bill and agriculture... moving towards a de-centralized and ecologically healthy system of sustainable food production and marketing.
 
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other said:
What about George Washington? I hear he was quite fond of chopping down cherry trees.
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Cute............

"However, the whole story is a moral lesson invented by the patriot's first biographer - a former Anglican pastor and itinerant Bible salesman named Mason L. Weems.
Known throughout the country as "Parson" Weems, he wrote several books on good conduct to supplement his Bible tracts."

Article Source: Cherry Tree Myth
 
ecofarm said:
What? Talk about apples and oranges!

The ozone hole was a WELL documented result of CFCs (and some other chemicals). There was no doubt. The chemicals were, in fact and beyond all argument, depleting the ozone layer. The hole had grown significantly and was getting bigger. The impact would, without doubt, be seriously bad. We stopped the CFCs, the hole stopped growing. It has since moved towards the equator and is splitting into two pieces. The depletion is not finished screwing us. The effects continue and will continue into the forseeable future. Were it not for us stopping the CFCs, we woulda definately had a damn big problem on our hands.

Global warming must be evaluated in regard to the amount which is anthropogenic, and one must determine the impact of CO2 within many other significant gasses. There is argument about AGW in the first place (I go with 10-30% anthropo), how much CO2 is involved in the long term, what other factors are involved, our ability to influence the event even if we have been contributing significantly... and just about every other aspect of global warming.

Comparing the ozone hole and CFCs (in the US, we waited for real proof) and global warming and CO2 (in the UN, where hysteria is the name of the game) is comparing apples and oranges.

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Of course Teddy (national parks) and Dick (clear water or air, Engangered Species Act and EPA) are the top 2.

Who did the sulfur regs with cap and trade? That was Reagan? It was a resounding success. After we set the cap and trade into affect, we discovered technology that greatly reduced sulfur emissions, quickly rendering the C&T system for sulfer obsolete and the industry spanky clean. Perhaps the discovery of the tect was not related to the C&T program, meh, what happened happened.

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I think the next big enviro president will not be because of energy. It will be the one that deals with the farm bill and agriculture... moving towards a de-centralized and ecologically healthy system of sustainable food production and marketing.
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You are very correct with your assessment of the success of the Cap and Trade approach to the reduction of CFCs. I commend you for how well you made the case. However, you have not demonstrated, at least to me, how Cap and Trade wouldn't also be successful at reducing man-made sources of CO2.

Please explain further.
 
My list


1. Teddy Roosevelt (National Parks)
2. Thomas Jefferson (Montechello)
3. Richard Nixon (Clean water, safe water, pesticides, toxins, endangered species act, EPA)

I had to move Nixon out of the top 2, Montechello is foundational in concept and breadth. I think it serves as a springboard for the next big environmental move, agriculture.

Bush1 was not bad, but Bush2 killed his "No Net Loss" policy in regard to wetlands. Bush2 slide by an amendment to "No Net Loss" with the Patriot Act or other post-9/11 legislation; it allowed substitutes for wetlands and geographical considerations, and basically wiped out the policy. Environmentally, Bush2 was neutral at best (and only when broad scope long term considerations are made, beyond the consideration of the average environmentalist).


how Cap and Trade wouldn't also be successful at reducing man-made sources of CO2.

Please explain further.
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I support cap and trade mechanisms, including for CO2. I believe, with 10-30% of GW being A, reducing CO2 has other benefits (in addition to AGW) that justify the use of a market based mechanism. I support other market based measures in regard to environmental efforts, but I do not support command and control measures or international inniatives (which are largely geopolitics). Bush1's "No Net Loss" was excellent legislation before Bush2 got his hands on it.
 
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Catawba said:
OK, you've made your claim very rudely (as seems to be your style) .....................now what do you have to back it up? Reagan did implement pollution credit trading (commonly known today as Cap and Trade) to reduce CFCs, and it worked! Where is your evidence to the contrary?
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Well, to be fair, you did "insult" a Conservative hero by saying he implemented this big libbo program.

Next thing you'll be saying is that the individual mandate of Obamacare was implemented by Mitt Romney or something...
 
ecofarm said:
I support cap and trade mechanisms, including for CO2. I believe, with 10-30% of GW being A, reducing CO2 has other benefits (in addition to AGW) that justify the use of a market based mechanism. I support other market based measures in regard to environmental efforts, but I do not support command and control measures or international inniatives (which are largely geopolitics). Bush1's "No Net Loss" was excellent legislation before Bush2 got his hands on it.
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How did you arrive at 10-30% of GW being A? From my research of the scientific evidence, all non-A sources have been sequestered by the earth's natural systems and that it is the A sources that have increased CO2 sources beyond those natural systems ability to sequester. Also, they have differentiated the types of CO2 and identified the A sources as what is intensifying the warming.

Also not sure what international initiatives are you speaking of, please clarify.
 
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