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Verifying proof of no income

Aunt Spiker

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Apparently schools have started requiring stay at home parents to verify that they don't work by having a written "I don't work or bring in any form of income" statement notarized.

Personally, I think it's ridiculously unnecessary and a pain in my butt. . . fortunately my mother's a notary but, come on - notarizing I'm not employed? What bull.

Why so? Is being unemployed really that big of a problem all of a sudden with the economy being in the tanker?
 
Apparently schools have started requiring stay at home parents to verify that they don't work by having a written "I don't work or bring in any form of income" statement notarized.

Personally, I think it's ridiculously unnecessary and a pain in my butt. . . fortunately my mother's a notary but, come on - notarizing I'm not employed? What bull.

Why so? Is being unemployed really that big of a problem all of a sudden with the economy being in the tanker?

What purpose do they need this information?
 
It's standard to request copies of income - like LES statements or W2's for grant purposes but this seems a bit over reaching.

Since I have to go out of my way to provide this notarized statement I'm interested, as well, in finding out why they want it.
 
It's standard to request copies of income - like LES statements or W2's for grant purposes but this seems a bit over reaching.

Since I have to go out of my way to provide this notarized statement I'm interested, as well, in finding out why they want it.

:thinking
So your applying for a grant for a university?

I'm a bit confused.
 
:thinking
So your applying for a grant for a university?

I'm a bit confused.

Signing my son up for pre-K, actually - which is covered by state grants for those who qualify. Unlikely we'll qualify for grant coverage. The sign-up packet is generic for all parents and students.
 
Signing my son up for pre-K, actually - which is covered by state grants for those who qualify. Unlikely we'll qualify for grant coverage. The sign-up packet is generic for all parents and students.

If they're giving out state grants based on income, why wouldn't they need proof of income (or lack thereof)?
 
first, your mother would be wrong to notarize the statement of a family member
that is not an arms length relationship

second, if they want to prosecute those who claim no income and an entitlement to government benefits - but which claim is illigitimate in part or in whole because they do earn income, then this sworn, notarized statement will be used against them by the prosecutor
without that statement, the prosecutor has little evidence to prove a lie about not receiving income

i would be surprised if the school did not have notaries on staff who would be able to notarize a sworn affadavit of no income if that statement was executed in their presence
 
Signing my son up for pre-K, actually - which is covered by state grants for those who qualify. Unlikely we'll qualify for grant coverage. The sign-up packet is generic for all parents and students.

Ohh I see.

For what it's worth I suggest you search out the income requirements for the grant before wasting your time filling out the forms.
There should be something about the minimum income on the internet.

On a side note, many studies are showing that Pre-K and Kindergarten are worthless for child development and education.
 
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Apparently schools have started requiring stay at home parents to verify that they don't work by having a written "I don't work or bring in any form of income" statement notarized.

Personally, I think it's ridiculously unnecessary and a pain in my butt. . . fortunately my mother's a notary but, come on - notarizing I'm not employed? What bull.

Why so? Is being unemployed really that big of a problem all of a sudden with the economy being in the tanker?

So, in Arkansas, Pre-K is partially paid for by the parents?

Sorry for the confusion, but in Georgia, we have a lottery with X slots available and either your name is drawn or it isn't. But if it is, its paid for by lottery money.
 
Ohh I see.

For what it's worth I suggest you search out the income requirements for the grant before wasting your time filling out the forms.
There should be something about the minimum income on the internet.

Good point - I'll research before committing to something unnecessary.

On a side note, many studies are showing that Pre-K and Kindergarten are worthless for child development and education.

I disagree, though not with heavy fervor - my daughter was in Pre-K and is advanced. However, I don't know if she's advanced because of Pre-K, or if she's advanced because she's just advanced. Either way, I'd like to think it's because of Pre-K . . . but it might not be, no big deal one way or another. I don't advocate for anything or die shoving my kids in - no camping outside all night like my sister did to put her son in a daycare last year.

Him attending this is more so because I, also, have run through my online-courses that were available to me. To continue college I have to be able to attend the University and I'd rather not postpone it a year. If he doesn't attend Pre-K at the school he'd be at a regular daycare. There is a significant difference in the environment and routine between the two - I'd rather have him at the Pre-K in the school than elsewhere, his sister is already attending the school and he's already familiar with his teacher - transportation and environment won't be an issue, so on and so forth.

first, your mother would be wrong to notarize the statement of a family member
that is not an arms length relationship

She's always been my notary and no one's ever quirked a brow - but it's not very often I've had to have her notarize something. I know several other notaries so having someone else notarize my necessary papers isn't a problem.
Thanks for pointing it out. . . i wouldn't want to cause problems.

second, if they want to prosecute those who claim no income and an entitlement to government benefits - but which claim is illigitimate in part or in whole because they do earn income, then this sworn, notarized statement will be used against them by the prosecutor
without that statement, the prosecutor has little evidence to prove a lie about not receiving income

i would be surprised if the school did not have notaries on staff who would be able to notarize a sworn affadavit of no income if that statement was executed in their presence

That all makes sense, thanks for the explanation.

So, in Arkansas, Pre-K is partially paid for by the parents?

Sorry for the confusion, but in Georgia, we have a lottery with X slots available and either your name is drawn or it isn't. But if it is, its paid for by lottery money.

Yep, If you don't qualify for grant-assistance then you cover all or part of the cost. It varies state to state - my Aunt has to pay a significant portion every year for the kid's schooling (Chicago).
 
Apparently schools have started requiring stay at home parents to verify that they don't work by having a written "I don't work or bring in any form of income" statement notarized.

Personally, I think it's ridiculously unnecessary and a pain in my butt. . . fortunately my mother's a notary but, come on - notarizing I'm not employed? What bull.

Why so? Is being unemployed really that big of a problem all of a sudden with the economy being in the tanker?
why are they doing this? do your children get some sort of aid?
 
It's standard to request copies of income - like LES statements or W2's for grant purposes but this seems a bit over reaching.

Since I have to go out of my way to provide this notarized statement I'm interested, as well, in finding out why they want it.
i don't understand how they could even require w-2s.
 
Signing my son up for pre-K, actually - which is covered by state grants for those who qualify. Unlikely we'll qualify for grant coverage. The sign-up packet is generic for all parents and students.
ah.....now i see. makes perfect sense then, of course.
 
So, in Arkansas, Pre-K is partially paid for by the parents?

Sorry for the confusion, but in Georgia, we have a lottery with X slots available and either your name is drawn or it isn't. But if it is, its paid for by lottery money.

I thought the state lottery funded Pre-K. :confused:
 
I disagree, though not with heavy fervor - my daughter was in Pre-K and is advanced. However, I don't know if she's advanced because of Pre-K, or if she's advanced because she's just advanced. Either way, I'd like to think it's because of Pre-K . . . but it might not be, no big deal one way or another. I don't advocate for anything or die shoving my kids in - no camping outside all night like my sister did to put her son in a daycare last year.

I bet it's because of her mother. :cool:

Him attending this is more so because I, also, have run through my online-courses that were available to me. To continue college I have to be able to attend the University and I'd rather not postpone it a year. If he doesn't attend Pre-K at the school he'd be at a regular daycare. There is a significant difference in the environment and routine between the two - I'd rather have him at the Pre-K in the school than elsewhere, his sister is already attending the school and he's already familiar with his teacher - transportation and environment won't be an issue, so on and so forth.

That makes sense, I hope you do and are doing well in school though. :2wave:
 
Thanks, Harry - you're thoughtful :)

I'm doing great in school - maintaining my 4.0 though I'm not going to neglect my family and other duties in order to keep it up. So far it's been reasonably manageable but if I get the occasional B I'm fine with that, too.

The state lottery funds college scholarships (and possibly other things) though not Pre-K and other related things as far as I know. I'm not to up with the lottery-facts so I'm not 100% sure about any of that.
 
Apparently schools have started requiring stay at home parents to verify that they don't work by having a written "I don't work or bring in any form of income" statement notarized.

Personally, I think it's ridiculously unnecessary and a pain in my butt. . . fortunately my mother's a notary but, come on - notarizing I'm not employed? What bull.

Why so? Is being unemployed really that big of a problem all of a sudden with the economy being in the tanker?

You must be applying for a reduced lunch program or something.

It's standard to request copies of income - like LES statements or W2's for grant purposes but this seems a bit over reaching.

Since I have to go out of my way to provide this notarized statement I'm interested, as well, in finding out why they want it.

Ahh, you're applying for grants..yes they need to verify your lack of income as part of the qualifying process. Been there, don that, and I agree it's a pain in the ass but if you want the money then you have to jump through the hoops.
 
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I thought the state lottery funded Pre-K. :confused:

Yeah. That's what I mean. It also funds a lot of useless stuff like 750k theaters for the three plays a year that most schools put on.
 
Apparently schools have started requiring stay at home parents to verify that they don't work by having a written "I don't work or bring in any form of income" statement notarized.

Personally, I think it's ridiculously unnecessary and a pain in my butt. . . fortunately my mother's a notary but, come on - notarizing I'm not employed? What bull.

Why so? Is being unemployed really that big of a problem all of a sudden with the economy being in the tanker?

Did they give you a reason why they're doing this?

How weird. :confused:

Edit: Sorry, I responded then read the rest of the thread. That's what I get for jumping the gun.

The Pre-K program in our district is paid for by grant monies as well, but it's specifically for high risk children. If all the open slots are taken and there are some left over, then others may apply for the program. I know how it works here, but I have no idea how other places run their programs.
 
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