reefedjib

I was reading the wikipedia page on and looking at the list of states where it is outlawed. This includes my state of Virginia unfortunately. I am in favor of corporal punishment as I think that humans are wired to their pain circuits and a evolutionary mechanism for training is the infliction of small amounts of pain. It gets your attention, so to speak.

What do you think?

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Korimyr the Rat

I think the only person allowed to strike my children with impunity are myself and their mothers. Anyone else does so, and either my child or myself is going to stomp them into a hole in the ground; they'd better pray it's my kid, because if I'm going to prison I'm going to make damned sure it's worth it.

I may reserve the right to use corporal punishment, but that is not how I intend to raise my children. Be damned if I'll let anyone else use methods I want to avoid.

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reefedjib

I don't have children myself, but my sister raises her children with no corporal punishment. If they are doing bad, they get a timeout equal in minutes to their age. So my 2 y/o niece gets 2 minutes. They seem to know they are being punished and they don't like it at all. They are mostly well-behaved, but on some days they go bonkers. They do not like the idea of corporal punishment, along the lines you talk about, Korimyr.

I don't disagree with that approach, but I do think pain has its place in development. Now with corporal punishment, we aren't talking about a teacher losing their composure and striking out. We are talking about a methodical punishment of ruler to hand or paddle to ass.

In the Army, the drills never laid a hand on us, but if we were bad we would have to do physical exercise, usually push-ups. It was painful. We learned. We got strong.

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Korimyr the Rat

I have no objections to this kind of corporal punishment. It makes children strong. If the teacher needs to smoke 'em 'til they bleed, that's alright by me-- no blood no foul. But striking a child with a weapon has no corrective value and studies show that the short-term compliance comes at the expense of long-term engagement.

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reefedjib

What does this mean? You wouldn't happen to have a link to one of these studies, would you?

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liblady

absolutely not. never in any circumstance. if you want to hit your kids, go ahead. but keep your hands off mine.

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liblady

children are not army recruits. you chose that route.

i have no probelm with swatting the butt of a 2 yr old who thinks she can walk in the street, but corporal punishment in school is not acceptable. ever.

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reefedjib

Ok, ok, jeez!

There are actually 20 states that still allow it. Check it out at the link I provided.

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molten_dragon

I'm very much against schools being allowed to administer corporal punishment. I'm not against the idea of corporal punishment itself, but I think parents should be the ones who determine what offenses merit it, not a school administrator.

For example, I was spanked as a kid, but only very rarely. My parents didn't use it for an everyday punishment. It was their way of expressing to me that I had screwed up especially badly. I suspect I'll raise my kids the same way, and I would be extremely upset if a principal spanked my kid for something I didn't think deserved a spanking.

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liblady

btw, my husband just informed me that he wants to put a reef point in our headsail.....lol!

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