Texas kicks creationism to the curb.

danarhea · 01-10-09, 10:36 PM

Texas has just released its new education standards for teaching science, and the news is good. The standards still have to be voted by the board, and that will still be a fight, but this fight is winnable. Gone from science classes will be creationism.

After all, which is more scientific? Experimentation and observation, or the belief that someone magically created the universe, and our knowledge of that universe was made possible because 2 of our ancestors had a conversation with a talking snake?

Article is here.

1069 · 01-10-09, 10:41 PM

The nation is waking up after having taken leave of its senses for the past eight years.

Arch Enemy · 01-11-09, 12:42 AM

Social Conservatives are not too happy.

danarhea · 01-11-09, 01:34 AM

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Social Conservatives are not too happy.

The term "Social Conservative" is an oxymoron.

new coup for you · 01-11-09, 01:41 AM

Hey Texas, welcome to 1926 (The Scopes Trial).

Soon you can learn all in door plumbing and how witchcraft isn't real.

Are you ****ing kidding me? This is like a kid coming up to me and being like "I want a blue ribbon, I didn't **** myself today."

You don't get accolades for the bare minimum.

rathi · 01-11-09, 03:53 PM

Sure it is pretty sad that creationism is still able to be taught in this day and age, but I'll not look a gift horse in the mouth. Congratulations Texas, you have proved your educational system is not completely brain-dead!

thenaturalist · 01-11-09, 04:56 PM

No more creationism in the classroom? Thank God (oops I guess that's a little ironic to say). Creationism should only be mentioned in a course on religion or maybe philosophy, but definitely not science.

TDQ · 01-11-09, 05:42 PM

I'm curious as to when the last time was that any of you were in a science classroom in Texas.

1069 · 01-11-09, 07:00 PM

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I'm curious as to when the last time was that any of you were in a science classroom in Texas.

Well, it hasn't been too terribly long, for me. I'm not that old.
Although, admittedly, we didn't have a "science classroom".
We just sat in our desks in our regular classroom and had science.
It was a private school.
But, you know. It hasn't been that long.
And my kids have been in science class far more recently than me.

Why do you ask?
Do you mean to suggest that our interest in this matter isn't warranted?
A fair number of people on this thread, including the threadstarter, are Texans.
The matter effects us, at least in theory.

TDQ · 01-11-09, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 1069

Well, it hasn't been too terribly long, for me. I'm not that old.
Although, admittedly, we didn't have a "science classroom".
We just sat in our desks in our regular classroom and had science.
It was a private school.
But, you know. It hasn't been that long.
And my kids have been in science class far more recently than me.

Why do you ask?
Do you mean to suggest that our interest in this matter isn't warranted?
A fair number of people on this thread, including the threadstarter, are Texans.
The matter effects us, at least in theory.

Oh I'm certain their interest is warranted. I'm just curious as to how many of them know what is actually taught in the classroom. Not what the TEA standards are, but what the Texas teachers have actually been teaching.

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