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Texas kicks creationism to the curb.

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Texas has just released its new education standards for teaching science, and the news is good. The standards still have to be voted by the board, and that will still be a fight, but this fight is winnable. Gone from science classes will be creationism.

After all, which is more scientific? Experimentation and observation, or the belief that someone magically created the universe, and our knowledge of that universe was made possible because 2 of our ancestors had a conversation with a talking snake?

Article is here.
 
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The nation is waking up after having taken leave of its senses for the past eight years.
 
Hey Texas, welcome to 1926 (The Scopes Trial).

Soon you can learn all in door plumbing and how witchcraft isn't real.

Are you ****ing kidding me? This is like a kid coming up to me and being like "I want a blue ribbon, I didn't **** myself today."

You don't get accolades for the bare minimum.
 
Sure it is pretty sad that creationism is still able to be taught in this day and age, but I'll not look a gift horse in the mouth. Congratulations Texas, you have proved your educational system is not completely brain-dead!
 
No more creationism in the classroom? Thank God (oops I guess that's a little ironic to say). Creationism should only be mentioned in a course on religion or maybe philosophy, but definitely not science.
 
I'm curious as to when the last time was that any of you were in a science classroom in Texas.
 
I'm curious as to when the last time was that any of you were in a science classroom in Texas.

Well, it hasn't been too terribly long, for me. I'm not that old.
Although, admittedly, we didn't have a "science classroom".
We just sat in our desks in our regular classroom and had science.
It was a private school.
But, you know. It hasn't been that long.
And my kids have been in science class far more recently than me.

Why do you ask?
Do you mean to suggest that our interest in this matter isn't warranted?
A fair number of people on this thread, including the threadstarter, are Texans.
The matter effects us, at least in theory.
 
Well, it hasn't been too terribly long, for me. I'm not that old.
Although, admittedly, we didn't have a "science classroom".
We just sat in our desks in our regular classroom and had science.
It was a private school.
But, you know. It hasn't been that long.
And my kids have been in science class far more recently than me.

Why do you ask?
Do you mean to suggest that our interest in this matter isn't warranted?
A fair number of people on this thread, including the threadstarter, are Texans.
The matter effects us, at least in theory.

Oh I'm certain their interest is warranted. I'm just curious as to how many of them know what is actually taught in the classroom. Not what the TEA standards are, but what the Texas teachers have actually been teaching.
 
I'm curious as to when the last time was that any of you were in a science classroom in Texas.

My degrees in both engineering and math were from Texas classrooms. The Cullen College of Engineering at the University of Houston is one of the highest rated schools in the United States. The Texas A&M Engineering School is also one of the highest rated in the United States. Rice University has produced Nobel Laureates in Science. The University of Texas has produced Nobel Laureates in Science. So has the University of Houston. Texas has some of the best science in the nation, despite attempts by the wacko fringe to water it down with religion.

NOTE: This post is also to the snob, New Coup, who thinks Texas is some backwater podunk state, where citizens dance around fires with pitchforks, while scientists are burned at the stake. Many of our schools can kick Harvard's and Yale's asses in science any day of the week.
 
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My degrees in both engineering and math were from Texas classrooms. The Cullen College of Engineering at the University of Houston is one of the highest rated schools in the United States. The Texas A&M Engineering School is also one of the highest rated in the United States. Rice University has produced Nobel Laureates in Science. The University of Texas has produced Nobel Laureates in Science. So has the University of Houston. Texas has some of the best science in the nation, despite attempts by the wacko fringe to water it down with religion.

NOTE: This post is also to the snob, New Coup, who thinks Texas is some backwater podunk state, where citizens dance around fires with pitchforks, while scientists are burned at the stake. Many of our schools can kick Harvard's and Yale's asses in science any day of the week.
And you did not even mention our medical schools which are amongst the finest in the nation. Anyone ever heard of Doctor DeBakey or the Baylor College of Medicine?
 
My degrees in both engineering and math were from Texas classrooms. The Cullen College of Engineering at the University of Houston is one of the highest rated schools in the United States. The Texas A&M Engineering School is also one of the highest rated in the United States. Rice University has produced Nobel Laureates in Science. The University of Texas has produced Nobel Laureates in Science. So has the University of Houston. Texas has some of the best science in the nation, despite attempts by the wacko fringe to water it down with religion.

NOTE: This post is also to the snob, New Coup, who thinks Texas is some backwater podunk state, where citizens dance around fires with pitchforks, while scientists are burned at the stake. Many of our schools can kick Harvard's and Yale's asses in science any day of the week.

I think Texas is what's it's been giving us for the last 8 years.
 
Texas is the American Saudi Arabia: a wasteland full of gun-toting religious fanatics that are only relevant because of oil.
Run along junior, your hook is very poorly baited.:moon:
 
In realted News: Creationism has decided to give up on Texas.

Houston - Creationism, the "theory" that God created the Earth in 6 days and then smoked a spliff on the seventh and watched the Big Lebowski, has released a statement denouncing Texas as a portion of the Earth that God did not willfully create, but instead was simply a waste product that happend to land in the southern US.

"From this day forward, we Young Earth Creationists will state that God Created the Heavens and the Earth, except Texas, which just kind of happened because he ate too many Nachos and had to take a ****. From this day forward, whenever someone says 'holy ****' we will know that they speak of Texas," Tom Pursickity, leader of the Oklahoma Young Earth Creationists chapter.

A Texas Spokesman said, "Well this is just preposterous! How can Texas be a lump of God's ****? That's not even in the bible! Does God even take ****s? And when did he eat Nachos? Were Adam and Eve Mexican? This makes no sense at all.

Creationsim was peeved about the decision made that would prevent it from being taught in the public schools of Texas.

A local Texan, who refused to give his ame, said, "I'll take a **** on Creationism if I ever see that yella-bellied queer 'round these parts. I'll put my size 13 Tony Lama's straight up it's high fallutin' ass!"

God could not be reached for comment on the matter because he was busy intelligently designing our replacements.
 
Texas has just released its new education standards for teaching science, and the news is good. The standards still have to be voted by the board, and that will still be a fight, but this fight is winnable. Gone from science classes will be creationism.

After all, which is more scientific? Experimentation and observation, or the belief that someone magically created the universe, and our knowledge of that universe was made possible because 2 of our ancestors had a conversation with a talking snake?

Article is here.
When did Texas public ever teach creationism? I've been here for years and never heard of it in any classroom.
 
Oh I'm certain their interest is warranted. I'm just curious as to how many of them know what is actually taught in the classroom. Not what the TEA standards are, but what the Texas teachers have actually been teaching.
Texas public schools has one of the poorest educations standards in the US. This isn't because of creationism, because creationism was never taught in the first place. Its kind of hard to kick somehting to the curb that you never had. Make no mistake though, Texas needs LOTS of improvement and quite frankly, this won't do an ounce of good. Note: I'm talking about the WHOLE plan in general, not "kicking creationism."

However, that being said, I must say I am pleased with the decision. When I first saw the thread title, I figured Texas did something gay and just ban creationism completely. It's nice to see it was only in public schools and only on a state level as well, keeping the parents in control. This is something that SOME liberals here have no desire of understanding.
 
My degrees in both engineering and math were from Texas classrooms. The Cullen College of Engineering at the University of Houston is one of the highest rated schools in the United States. The Texas A&M Engineering School is also one of the highest rated in the United States. Rice University has produced Nobel Laureates in Science. The University of Texas has produced Nobel Laureates in Science. So has the University of Houston. Texas has some of the best science in the nation, despite attempts by the wacko fringe to water it down with religion.

NOTE: This post is also to the snob, New Coup, who thinks Texas is some backwater podunk state, where citizens dance around fires with pitchforks, while scientists are burned at the stake. Many of our schools can kick Harvard's and Yale's asses in science any day of the week.
Umm...are those Universities state-run? Or just state-sponsered?
 
Texas is the American Saudi Arabia: a wasteland full of gun-toting religious fanatics that are only relevant because of oil.

Is that why the largest KKK membership in the USA was in Indiana?
 
OOoooo, another scintillating "my state is better than your state" e-peen contest!!!

*grabs popcorn*

:)
 
OOoooo, another scintillating "my state is better than your state" e-peen contest!!!

*grabs popcorn*

:)
Texas is the greatest state in the union for one and only one reason: Texas is the only state that can legally secede from the Union at any time.
 
Texas is the greatest state in the union for one and only one reason: Texas is the only state that can legally secede from the Union at any time.

Aren't we the only state that ever actually did?
I think the only descriptor that one can honestly and accurately apply to Texas (as in "Texas is....") is "diverse".
Texas is diverse.
It's a really big state.
It's more like four or five different states put together.
Land mass-wise, one could fit all of new England inside its borders.
On the globe, at least, it looks bigger than the UK.
It's a state of extremes.
You have your extreme liberals over here, your extreme conservatives over there. You've got the desert over here, mountains over there, the gulf coast down there, swamps over this way, grassland plains in the middle, pine forests up here, and in between all this you've got three of the top ten biggest cities in the US, and seven of the top twenty biggest cities.

Texas is... what?
Texas is an enigma.
 
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