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Should Compulsory Schooling be Abolished?

Dude, I'm done with your stupid ****. I'll respond to you when you have legitimate commentary regarding the issue of compulsory schooling. Otherwise, stay out of this thread.
 
Agnapostate said:
Dude, I'm done with your stupid ****. I'll respond to you when you have legitimate commentary regarding the issue of compulsory schooling. Otherwise, stay out of this thread.
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Each time that I have responded with a reasonable and legitimate issue, you have punked out and started ****, so I slap you about with it. Dude, you're a moron that hasn't the faintest clue as to how badly your character and/or intellect has been shown to be next to worthless...

Oh, and I already did that too! The whole "legitimate commentary regarding the issue of compulsory schooling" thing. But again, you chose to ignore fact and stick with the petty BS... I just keep serving it up to ya since that is about all you can seemingly handle. ;)

Here, check it out:

"This is needs versus wants. Society needs an educated populace and the populace wants their choice.

I support compulsary education as well, up to a certain age. I think that it should be about 14 or so though...
Then students can start to individualize according to their strengths and wants." - Bodi

http://www.debatepolitics.com/educa...ory-schooling-abolished-3.html#post1057746687

Now, that is just an introductory statement, so don't get all crazy or anything. Concise and open to discussion. Something that you should work on... making it concise instead of your long ass OPs. I understand that you make them long in order to give you an out in case, actually when, another disproves one of your inane ideas... you can harp on missing something and then fall back on nuances, and when that also fails, just start insult their intelligence and as a last resort, you can post a pic of a chimp. Good stuff!

So, what do you think about compulsary education there, you smart smart guy you? :lol:
 
education should not only be compulsory, but there should be criminal penalties assessed for parents who allow their kids to skip school, drop out, etc. Once the kids reach 14, they should either go to school, or to juvenile penal facilities where they get to eat according to their efforts at getting educated. We already have too many ignorant people in the US, the libertarian party is full of them...:lol:
 
UtahBill said:
education should not only be compulsory, but there should be criminal penalties assessed for parents who allow their kids to skip school, drop out, etc. Once the kids reach 14, they should either go to school, or to juvenile penal facilities where they get to eat according to their efforts at getting educated. We already have too many ignorant people in the US, the libertarian party is full of them...:lol:
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What happened to Agnapostate? He has bailed on a few threads now.
 
We already have too many ignorant people in the US, the libertarian party is full of them...
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Let's not throw the baby out with the bath-water.
 
I think that there should be compulsory education up to a certain academic level, which I think should be reachable by your average 6th grader. After that most kids aren't usually learning much that is terribly useful anyway.

Then, for kids that want to be in school, and want to pursue a higher education, the opportunities should be available, for free. This could be scholarly or like a tech school, doesn't matter, it should be available for free to anyone, anytime. We could pay for it using the money we used to use to keep kids locked up that didn't want to be there.
 
My primary objection to the claims made in this thread is that they seem to operate under the premise that compulsory schooling prevents and remedies whatever intellectual disabilities would exist among youth without it, rather than being the cause of those disabilities themselves. I think there is compelling evidence for the latter view, considering that the American schooling model is bases on the Prussian model that allowed authoritarian regimes to rise in Germany time and time again. Ruthless authoritarianism does not promote learning, it inhibits it.
 
Agnapostate said:
My primary objection to the claims made in this thread is that they seem to operate under the premise that compulsory schooling prevents and remedies whatever intellectual disabilities would exist among youth without it, rather than being the cause of those disabilities themselves. I think there is compelling evidence for the latter view, considering that the American schooling model is bases on the Prussian model that allowed authoritarian regimes to rise in Germany time and time again. Ruthless authoritarianism does not promote learning, it inhibits it.
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well, it does remedy ignorance, at least for those who put an effort into it.
what would you have it do? make intellectual giants out of all of us? we don't need any more giant egos walking around telling the rest of us that they have all the answers. we already have John McCain doing that, thank you very much...
Does John know you are trespassing on his turf?;)
 
Agnapostate said:
You are clearly unfamiliar with the manner of rights my organization prescribes. This is our Declaration of Principles.
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Oh, wow! A whole page, with numbered sub-paragraphs, and ending with "This is Version 8.1 of the Declaration"

Hilarious! . :lol: . :lol: . :lol: . :lol:
 
Agnapostate said:
I believe that compulsory schooling is a destroyer of individual freedom, and is essentially a one-size-fits-all factory line that functions as a propaganda service. I believe that Americans for a Society Free from Age Restrictions (ASFAR), an organization that I am a member of, makes compelling and relevant points about the tyranny of compulsory schooling.



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so what is your take on age of consent, pedophilia, etc.?
 
I don't think it should be abolished, I think it should be a choice. My oldest is home schooled and has also attended a "free school" (a anarchist school). She doesn't do well in regular school and excels at home. It would be unfair to force kids into school if they don't do well in the system as it is, I know I was a victim of public schooling and horrible teaching.
 
veganshawn said:
This is a disgusting example and you should be ashamed for being it up.
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go read his link, it is broughtup there.....my point is that there may be ulterior motives for the OP....
 
veganshawn said:
I don't think it should be abolished, I think it should be a choice. My oldest is home schooled and has also attended a "free school" (a anarchist school). She doesn't do well in regular school and excels at home. It would be unfair to force kids into school if they don't do well in the system as it is, I know I was a victim of public schooling and horrible teaching.
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ALL of your teachers were horrible? SOME of them? Most of them?
Does your oldest excel at home based on real academics, or your opinion of what is academics? Does she get tested outside of the home to make sure that the home schooling is adequate?
Anarchists? do we need more of those?
 
Good plan. Less education will probably solve some of society's problems :roll:
 
Kernel Sanders said:
Good plan. Less education will probably solve some of society's problems :roll:
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as in, you can fool some of the people all the time, and all of the people some of the time....less education for the masses will make it easier...
 
UtahBill said:
ALL of your teachers were horrible? SOME of them? Most of them?
Does your oldest excel at home based on real academics, or your opinion of what is academics? Does she get tested outside of the home to make sure that the home schooling is adequate?
Anarchists? do we need more of those?
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Does it matter to you? If so why, obviously you have a slant and no matter what I say is going to be responded to with some smart ass comment. And yes we need more Anarchists, the last true freedom fighters left in our world.
 
UtahBill said:
ALL of your teachers were horrible? SOME of them? Most of them?
Does your oldest excel at home based on real academics, or your opinion of what is academics? Does she get tested outside of the home to make sure that the home schooling is adequate?
Anarchists? do we need more of those?
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I had very few good teachers, maybe 5 percent over my school years. I had teachers insult me, call me lazy, paddle me because they took a nap and I quit reading (they where drunk), talk about beer drinking with the jocks in class in Germany rather then focus on the class subject etc.... A lot of teachers didn't do their job, and I am sure I am not the only one who agrees seeing as how many other people on both sides home school.
 
Kernel Sanders said:
Good plan. Less education will probably solve some of society's problems :roll:
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No I want real education that helps all kids, not the way it is now, we are all individuals, and we can't all be taught the same, for far to long the school systems has tried to force all kids to learn the exact same way and it is not fair to kids or society when those who the system failed turn out to be criminals or the President of the USA in Bush's case.
 
UtahBill said:
so what is your take on age of consent, pedophilia, etc.?
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Personally, I think the age of consent should be determined on an individual basis.

I've been pretty much running my own life since I was 16. Being a minor made things harder to do than they needed be, but I was still able to get things done. But some people aren't responsible enough to be called adults, IMO, when there 30 or 40 years old. So, I think having an arbitrary age is dumb.
 
veganshawn said:
Does it matter to you? If so why, obviously you have a slant and no matter what I say is going to be responded to with some smart ass comment. And yes we need more Anarchists, the last true freedom fighters left in our world.
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I have a slant?
I don't much care for extremists, be they dems, republicans, libertarians, or whatever you are. Certainly more good is accomplished by mutual cooperation than by running off and living in your own special little world. If that is what you are doing, why do you care about the world the rest of us live in? and smart ass remarks are often necessary when responding to dumb ass posts...:2wave:
 
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