TacticalEvilDan

Okay, Agnapostate, my curiosity is killing me:

How old are you?

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Simon W. Moon

I am curious as to why abolishing it is the answer instead of reform

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Jerry

Respect it and contain your OP to a single post, if you please. There's no need to quote all that. A simple outline or highlight with a link will due.

I like how you pre-frame the premise of my answer, forcing me to take the time to reframe the premise of my answer.

**** it, you don't want an actual discussion then I won't give you one.

I support compulsory attendance because I stand firmly against individual liberty in all its forms. Is that satisfactory for you? I'm glad it is.

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roguenuke

I disagree completely with abolishing compulsory schooling. It is really important for children to have an education and, for the most part, they are generally not able to always determine what is good for them or not. I do think that it should be reformed, and offer more options for students who could benefit from developing certain areas in which they show a promising future, such as math, science, writing, arts, etc. In many places, there are schools that do specialize their teaching, but I think more of them, especially in more populated, poorer areas and more funding and scholarships should be available.

I do agree with changing some age restriction rules/laws. However, most should remain just for the fact that it is easier to teach and influence the average child or teenager than it is the average adult due to the lack of life experience and not all correct behaviors are taught by someone's parents.

Also, not every child develops at the same rate as others. Some children may be more mature than some (in a few cases even most) adults at about age 12, but the vast majority still have a long way to go before they learn what being responsible means and the consequences of their actions.

I don't agree in the drinking/gambling age laws. The other ones are, for the most part fair. I do believe in exceptions based on circumstances though.

jallman

That was funny.

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jallman

Abolishing compulsory schooling is would, in no way, benefit our society or our nation. History proves that the most educated societies are the most prosperous societies. When a society reaches a level of advancement, seriously damaging fissures in class, unhealthy disparities in wealth distribution, and solid barriers to class mobility would result from everyone not at least having a minimum level of education just for socialization and acceptable communication. The Republic has an interest in making sure that these social upheavals don't occur.

However, I think that our education system could make some room for pragmatism. Not everyone has the aptitude to be a brain surgeon. Instead of trying to crank out millions of brain surgeons but only succeeding with hundreds, perhaps a better approach would be offer different paths of learning earlier on and helping the student perfect his or her interests and abilities rather than trying to fit every student into a draconian predetermination of what success is.

SuperDem

I believe not only that kids should be forced to attend school, but that they get their little fannies swatted every time they look cross eyed at the teacher.
Then maybe we wouldn't be consumers for Columbia, and we'd have a better smarter citizenry that actually knew the constitution and debated a few times in school and cared what they heck was going on in this country besides reality shows.

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Bodhisattva

He also believes that killing babies is ok because they don't feel pain, since they are not self-aware...
So his position on education is reall not that alarming.

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Bodhisattva

#1 This enables him an "Out" for any people that "misunderstand" his position..
He can, as we have seen, tell people that they have to read the entire thing, and when they do and still don't agree, he can hide in it saying that they don't get the "nuance" of it. Kinda silly and most assuredly a defensive tactic... though he tries to throw you off by acting offensive as a premeditated action.

#2 That is the point though, isn't it? As we both have already witnessed.


This is needs versus wants. Society needs an educated populace and the populace wants their choice.

I support compulsary education as well, up to a certain age. I think that it should be about 14 or so though...
Then students can start to individualize according to their strengths and wants.

Agnapostate

As long as we're repeating false statements, Bodhi has expressed his support for the Holocaust.