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Our children need to hear about the teacher and the fireman who would not run from ev

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Patrickt

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"The shrillness of this presidential campaign continues 24/7. If you’re like me, you worry about the impact of the cynical, bare-knuckled, in-your-face political season is having on our young people. Kids need heroes to look up to and emulate. They aren’t going to find them in Washington anytime soon. But I would like to suggest that families pause to reflect on two real life heroes who remind us what values are worth living and, if necessary dying for."
Our children need to hear about the teacher and the fireman who would not run from evil | Fox News

Too many people think school is where kids learn and teachers are the ones they learn from. I don't think that's true. What they learn at home is more important. We seem to have a culture that actively denigrates true heroes and makes heroes of people who aren't deserving of the title.

So, I thought, who would I consider a hero worthy of telling my children about. For me, Sgt. Roddy Edmunds.

"The Nazi soldiers made their orders very clear: Jewish American prisoners of war were to be separated from their fellow brothers in arms and sent to an uncertain fate. But Master Sgt. Roddie Edmonds would have none of that. As the highest-ranking noncommissioned officer held in the German POW camp, he ordered more than 1,000 Americans captives to step forward with him and brazenly pronounced: “We are all Jews here.”

"He would not waver, even with a pistol to his head, and his captors eventually backed down."
http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-honors-us-gi-who-told-the-nazis-we-are-all-jews/

Who are the heroes you would tell your children about?

 
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Patrickt said:
"The shrillness of this presidential campaign continues 24/7. If you’re like me, you worry about the impact of the cynical, bare-knuckled, in-your-face political season is having on our young people. Kids need heroes to look up to and emulate. They aren’t going to find them in Washington anytime soon. But I would like to suggest that families pause to reflect on two real life heroes who remind us what values are worth living and, if necessary dying for."
Our children need to hear about the teacher and the fireman who would not run from evil | Fox News

Too many people think school is where kids learn and teachers are the ones they learn from. I don't think that's true. What they learn at home is more important. We seem to have a culture that actively denigrates true heroes and makes heroes of people who aren't deserving of the title.

So, I thought, who would I consider a hero worthy of telling my children about. For me, Sgt. Roddy Edmunds.

"The Nazi soldiers made their orders very clear: Jewish American prisoners of war were to be separated from their fellow brothers in arms and sent to an uncertain fate. But Master Sgt. Roddie Edmonds would have none of that. As the highest-ranking noncommissioned officer held in the German POW camp, he ordered more than 1,000 Americans captives to step forward with him and brazenly pronounced: “We are all Jews here.”

"He would not waver, even with a pistol to his head, and his captors eventually backed down."
http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-honors-us-gi-who-told-the-nazis-we-are-all-jews/

Who are the heroes you would tell your children about?
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Teachers speak about incidents like this in history classes...
 
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Bodhisattva said:
Teachers speak about incidents like this in history classes...
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My son's seventh-grade history teacher told the class that the Holocaust never happened.
 
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Patrickt said:
My son's seventh-grade history teacher told the class that the Holocaust never happened.
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if true, that teacher needs to be fired
 
Re: Our children need to hear about the teacher and the fireman who would not run fro

Patrickt said:
"The shrillness of this presidential campaign continues 24/7. If you’re like me, you worry about the impact of the cynical, bare-knuckled, in-your-face political season is having on our young people. Kids need heroes to look up to and emulate. They aren’t going to find them in Washington anytime soon. But I would like to suggest that families pause to reflect on two real life heroes who remind us what values are worth living and, if necessary dying for."
Our children need to hear about the teacher and the fireman who would not run from evil | Fox News

Too many people think school is where kids learn and teachers are the ones they learn from. I don't think that's true. What they learn at home is more important. We seem to have a culture that actively denigrates true heroes and makes heroes of people who aren't deserving of the title.

So, I thought, who would I consider a hero worthy of telling my children about. For me, Sgt. Roddy Edmunds.

"The Nazi soldiers made their orders very clear: Jewish American prisoners of war were to be separated from their fellow brothers in arms and sent to an uncertain fate. But Master Sgt. Roddie Edmonds would have none of that. As the highest-ranking noncommissioned officer held in the German POW camp, he ordered more than 1,000 Americans captives to step forward with him and brazenly pronounced: “We are all Jews here.”

"He would not waver, even with a pistol to his head, and his captors eventually backed down."
http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-honors-us-gi-who-told-the-nazis-we-are-all-jews/

Who are the heroes you would tell your children about?
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"It should come as no surprise that her last letter, written in the shadow of death and dated just two days before her murder at Auschwitz dealt mainly with her concerns not about her tragic fate but rather about the welfare of others."



Does anyone think that statement could be made of either of the two presidential candidates?
 
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justabubba said:
if true, that teacher needs to be fired
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Fired? You have to be joking. I went to the school and got a lecture on academic freedom. Apparently, teaching nonsense is academic freedom. In our school district, teachers caught having sex with students weren't fired. They were allowed to quit and given good references. Let's all sing along, "Look for, the Union label....."
 
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Patrickt said:
My son's seventh-grade history teacher told the class that the Holocaust never happened.
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There are idiots everywhere. We have a science teacher here, currently at my school, that tells students that we never went to the moon.

The exception does not make the rule...
 
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A lot of firemen died on 9/11; one of the Sandy Hook teachers died apparently trying to shield unsuccessfully a special-needs student. What makes the two in the article more special than the untold legions of every day heroes in the world?
 
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Bodhisattva said:
There are idiots everywhere. We have a science teacher here, currently at my school, that tells students that we never went to the moon.

The exception does not make the rule...
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But tolerance of the idiots makes it spread. It's important to remember that unions exist to protect the lazy, incompetent, corrupt, and brutal.
 
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Patrickt said:
But tolerance of the idiots makes it spread. It's important to remember that unions exist to protect the lazy, incompetent, corrupt, and brutal.
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...and to protect workers rights. Don't forget that whatever job you have right now you are not in a sweatshop working 18 hours a day in unsafe conditions because of unions.
 
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Bodhisattva said:
...and to protect workers rights. Don't forget that whatever job you have right now you are not in a sweatshop working 18 hours a day in unsafe conditions because of unions.
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Nonsense. I suppose you think unions also make the sun come up every morning. The reality isn't the extortionists making things better but rather the free market system and competition.
 
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Patrickt said:
Fired? You have to be joking. I went to the school and got a lecture on academic freedom. Apparently, teaching nonsense is academic freedom. In our school district, teachers caught having sex with students weren't fired. They were allowed to quit and given good references. Let's all sing along, "Look for, the Union label....."
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you are singing the wrong song
the union did not save those teachers
management failed to do its job and put together the justification for termination
 
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backpacker said:
A lot of firemen died on 9/11; one of the Sandy Hook teachers died apparently trying to shield unsuccessfully a special-needs student. What makes the two in the article more special than the untold legions of every day heroes in the world?
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not more special
but worthy role models for the students
 
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justabubba said:
you are singing the wrong song
the union did not save those teachers
management failed to do its job and put together the justification for termination
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That's the usual song for leftists. I could go through case by case but you know as well as I do that your song is a lie. Unions protect the incompetent, lazy, corrupt, and brutal. That's who needs the union.
 
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Patrickt said:
Unions protect the incompetent, lazy, corrupt, and brutal. That's who needs the union.
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Interesting take...
 
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justabubba said:
not more special
but worthy role models for the students
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There are a lot of every day role models for students. Still not clear why our children need to hear about these two.
 
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Patrickt said:
That's the usual song for leftists. I could go through case by case but you know as well as I do that your song is a lie. Unions protect the incompetent, lazy, corrupt, and brutal. That's who needs the union.
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here is the extent of the truth of your post:
unions protect incompetent managers

those administrators who fail to do their jobs and assemble the information proving that an inadequate teacher no longer deserves to hold a teaching job
the union canot defend the indefensible
those are the teachers whose careers are perpetuated by incompetent managers
 
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backpacker said:
There are a lot of every day role models for students. Still not clear why our children need to hear about these two.
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those two, specifically? nothing

but positive role models are beneficial to the instruction of our children
 
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Patrickt said:
My son's seventh-grade history teacher told the class that the Holocaust never happened.
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In Oaxaca Mexico, maybe.

In any public school in the USA no possibility, and to claim so is a lie.
 
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justabubba said:
those two, specifically? nothing

but positive role models are beneficial to the instruction of our children
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So the headline that children need to hear about these two people is wrong.
 
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backpacker said:
So the headline that children need to hear about these two people is wrong.
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no
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justabubba said:
no
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So the children don't need about these two people specifically and they do need to hear about these two people specifically. Thanks for wasting my time. This site seems full of comrades like you.
 
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backpacker said:
So the children don't need about these two people specifically and they do need to hear about these two people specifically. Thanks for wasting my time. This site seems full of comrades like you.
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you're most welcome
 
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