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Old 10-14-08, 08:20 AM   #41 (permalink)
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If everyone thought someone would pull a gun on them, they'd be more careful of how they acted, how they spoke, everything.

Is it extreme? Yes... but it would get the job done...


You piss and moan about the state of your country. What do you propose then?


Atleast those kids did something about it. A bunch of no good, scumbags for the most part. I don't need to prove their innocence, because the majority of people are not innocent.

And ofcourse you excaggerate what I say. I only said they got what was coming to them. You act like I'd build my own personal army of crazy V-Tech kids..


If there were more V-Techs, there would be less. Try to wrap your head around the idea that if people weren't such douchebags, it would have a circular effect..
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If everyone thought someone would pull a gun on them, they'd be more careful of how they acted, how they spoke, everything.

Is it extreme? Yes... but it would get the job done...


You piss and moan about the state of your country. What do you propose then?


Atleast those kids did something about it. A bunch of no good, scumbags for the most part. I don't need to prove their innocence, because the majority of people are not innocent.

And ofcourse you excaggerate what I say. I only said they got what was coming to them. You act like I'd build my own personal army of crazy V-Tech kids..


If there were more V-Techs, there would be less. Try to wrap your head around the idea that if people weren't such douchebags, it would have a circular effect..
An armed society is a polite society, right? Have you been reading Heinein? But an educated and civilized society doesn't let misfits, nut cases, escapees from mental institutions have weapons. If we forced all teens to finish high school, we might not have so many misfits like yourself trying to justify himself here on this forum. Of course, it would help if our public schools improved the curriculum anld taught our kids that the world isn't a perfect place and that it helps if they participate in making it better instead of making it worse.
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If everyone thought someone would pull a gun on them, they'd be more careful of how they acted, how they spoke, everything.
So you think that kids should be allowed to carry guns around?



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Is it extreme? Yes... but it would get the job done...
Nice logic. So does martial law and not allowing personal liberty...



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You piss and moan about the state of your country. What do you propose then?
Show me where I have ever pissed and moaned about the state of our country or else admit that you are a liar resorting to pathetic ad homs cause your getting your ass kicked.



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Atleast those kids did something about it. A bunch of no good, scumbags for the most part. I don't need to prove their innocence, because the majority of people are not innocent.
The teacher was a no good scumbag? Evidence please...
The 13 other kids were no good scumbags? Evidence please...

Look, you must have gotten your ass kicked daily in order to be this disconnected from reality...
Sorry that you had it so tough.

Here are some of the victims:







Yeah, they look like real scumbags...




13 Victims killed at Columbine High School



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And ofcourse you excaggerate what I say. I only said they got what was coming to them. You act like I'd build my own personal army of crazy V-Tech kids..
So in twenty years after having kids and working hard to be a good person, I will not shed one emotion when you get blown away by some loser during a shootout.



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If there were more V-Techs, there would be less.if people weren't such douchebags, it would have a circular effect..
So you admit to being a douchbag? Interesting... kinda pathetic, but interesting.



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JIM, you need to fill out your profile, or continue to remain anonymous which means we will all assume the worst about you.....or that you are just a kid who gets picked on and is looking for sympathy. It that is it, be patient. You can still grow up and have a good life. The crap you get handed as a kid will eventually stop. Been there myself....
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So you think that kids should be allowed to carry guns around?





Nice logic. So does martial law and not allowing personal liberty...





Show me where I have ever pissed and moaned about the state of our country or else admit that you are a liar resorting to pathetic ad homs cause your getting your ass kicked.





The teacher was a no good scumbag? Evidence please...
The 13 other kids were no good scumbags? Evidence please...




So in twenty years after having kids and working hard to be a good person, I will not shed one emotion when you get blown away by some loser during a shootout.
I shot guns as a child and I think it made me a more responsible person. I think the issue here is not about getting guns. Because, a person will always get the means to accomplish their will if they want it bad enough. It is about why these boys wanted to push their will so much to do so much harm to their peers. Society evolves in coded manner also to meet what needs to boil to the surface. These boys where victimized every single day of high school. I don't feel pity for the killers because they chose a weak way out in an attemt to affect society instead of catalogueing what needs to be done and trying to impliment it. Marylin Manson had some very good thoughts on this issue.
YouTube - Marilyn Manson In Bowling For Columbine
A very smart man. Imagine how the past would have gone if Britian entered an America that had totally disarmed itself and gained all ground tactical positions they wanted in a week. We would all be hailing the queen if not for our brave "Hide in the bushes with a musket" minutemen civilians.
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I shot guns as a child and I think it made me a more responsible person.
i would think it would, but only if you had a responsible adult teaching you the proper handling, respect and care of the weapon
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i would think it would, but only if you had a responsible adult teaching you the proper handling, respect and care of the weapon
I was in boyscouts so ya. :p
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Society evolves in coded manner also to meet what needs to boil to the surface. These boys where victimized every single day of high school. .
Your first statement I don't understand at all. Is that some kind of philosophical theory? Who originated it?
The second statement is not true. Those boys were misfits of their own choosing. The other kids didn't make them what they were. They may have reacted to what they were, but it is perfectly normal human nature to look askance at wierdos and whackos.
Your attempt at justifying the existence of such scum is a waste of time.
If they had just offed themselves, their mission would have been accomplished. but the taking of innocent lives just makes the rest of us more wary of other weirdos...
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Your first statement I don't understand at all. Is that some kind of philosophical theory? Who originated it?
The second statement is not true. Those boys were misfits of their own choosing. The other kids didn't make them what they were. They may have reacted to what they were, but it is perfectly normal human nature to look askance at wierdos and whackos.
Your attempt at justifying the existence of such scum is a waste of time.
If they had just offed themselves, their mission would have been accomplished. but the taking of innocent lives just makes the rest of us more wary of other weirdos...
Thats not how I remember the stories. I lived in California as a boy and lived in the ghetto about 20 miles away from mexicali. I was a minority and got picked on daily. I can see how the week willed could easily get misguided and off everyone that they think wronged them at a statement to society that punking little offbeats should be thought twice about. After columnbine I remember a heavy kid trying to punk me on a basketball courtand I just stood there staring at him getting angrier and angrier and his friend came and tapped him. I heard him say "You remember what happened at columnbine? " And he replied, "Ya." And just turned around and walked off. So maybe I can understand it in a skewed way that you are unable too.

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Thats not how I remember the stories. I lived in California as a boy and lived in the ghetto about 20 miles away from mexicali. I was a minority and got picked on daily. I can see how the week willed could easily get misguided and off everyone that they think wronged them at a statement to society that punking little offbeats should be thought twice about. After columnbine I remember a heavy kid trying to punk me on a basketball courtand I just stood there staring at him getting angrier and angrier and his friend came and tapped him. I heard him say "You remember what happened at columnbine? " And he replied, "Ya." And just turned around and walked off. So maybe I can understand it in a skewed way that you are unable too.

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