dirtpoorchris

Im just joking about blaming everything on Bush. But his no child left behind bull**** needs to be stopped. It is nothing but lowering the standards. Why in hell would you want to do that?

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Leave it to US. To make the sun rise in the West. And fall on the East.

Bodhisattva

Nothing to what I said then?

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Kayleigh Katz

I don't think kids should have to stay in school if they have reached a certain level of academic achievement, just basic math and basic reading and writing. After that, if they don't want to be there they should be cut loose. Those that want an education should be able to have as much as they want for free, all the way through a doctorate if that's what they have the drive to obtain.

I don't think it makes sense to keep kids in a system where they end up making it harder for the kids that really want to learn. If the public is paying for it, the public should get the most for there money. If we need a public place to keep those other kids so they aren't roaming the street we could provide that sort of facility for far less than the cost of keeping them in a classroom.

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My heart goes out to Bones who posted on the 2nd page. I'm so sorry about what happened to you, it should never have been that way. I have a learning disability too so I kinda know what its like. But in my case my parents consulted experts that devised strategies so that I could cope better. But even so certain tasks still give me almost an instant migraine.

Jim Profit

There's a simple answer to fixing the education system. Privatize it.

We can give school vouchers to parents, and otherwise they send their kid where they want. This creates choice. (And if I remember correctly, you said you were prochoice. Now it's time to prove it..)


The versatility is endless. Don't think evolution is real? Send your kid to a school that doesn't teach evolution. Want your kid to learn an actual trade rather then a bunchof useless information he's probably never going to use? Take your kid to a school oriented towards job preperation.


I don't understand where exactly there's something wrong with. Children still are entitled to education, it gives parents more options, and because of competitiveness, teachers are obligated to do their jobs and not ****ing the students. Failure to stay ahead results in loss of students, and thus loss of business...

Public school was never intended to provide people with basic needs. It is a social engineering facility. Teaching them their perceived notions of right and wrong, their perceived notions of history, and their perceived notions of reality in general.

Public school is a concentration camp for lies and propaganda. Children are taught to be collective little mongrels who single out anyone who shows a sign of weakness or dissent. This is why "cliques" are created within the schools. Yes, I'm sure even without the social engineering children will still be assholes to one another. But not to the extent they are now as it is taught/encouraged in this nation.


V-Tech and Collumbine were not the badguys, they were children who got fedup with being talked down and taken for granteed. They were heroic kids. Standing up to the monster we've created, because we're too cowardly to pick up a gun and putout Cujo ourselves.

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Bodhisattva

Wow, you must have hated school.

Sorry that you had such a ****ty experience, because nothing but a ****ty experience could lead one to conclude some of the inane notions that you are expressing.

Couple of kids go on shooting spree and kill a bunch of innocent people and they are "heroic".

Dude, you have massive issues... seek help, seriously.

Jim Profit

People don't just get motivated to go on a killing spree against innocent people. You have no substantial evidence to claim anyone was innocent, let alone a majority.

I did not bat an eye to 9/11 either. Yes, surely some innocent died. But a vast majority? Not likely..


I believe one of your other members said it best that how would we react if all the good, wholesome, people dissapeared from Earth like Revelations says will happen..


Would we really notice eight people missing?

Tashah

Simply because people are not perfect does not mean that murder is a just and fitting intervention. I've read many of your posts and you do seem to have some serious ethical issues.

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UtahBill

If they can TEST OUT, yes, but in no way should we ever let them DROP out....otherwise a large percentage of them will be on the public dole or on the streets committing crimes.....

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The Age of Reason doesn't have to be a thing of the past.
Being judgemental is the prime directive of some evangelicals.
No success can compensate for failure in the home.

UtahBill

and you have proof that there were no innocents? no, you don't....
and if Revelations is a source of useful information for you, God help you.
Did YOU even finish high school?

Tucker Case

That was a joke about Christians in particular, not about humanity. And I'm an admitted idiot, so don't take the **** that coumes from me seriously.

Instead, I recommend a soothing bubble bath, perhaps a massage. And maybe if you're feeling up to it, perhaps long and intensive psychotherapy program would do some good as well.