| Education Mom and Dad banned in California schools, offends gays.; Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy
Come on, Stinger. You can do better than giving use this tried and true logical fallacy (... |
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Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy Come on, Stinger. You can do better than giving use this tried and true logical fallacy (Appeal to Nature, for those of you who are unsure).
Firstly, identifying normal is yet another logical fallacy. Secondly, please identify what behaviors are being banned from being taught. | False, there are definable norms and scientific fact, with homo sapiens it is heterosexuality which is the basis for our procreation. So why should schools ban that and teach the abnormal?
And Appeals to Novelty have no substance.
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Originally Posted by Stinger False, there are definable norms and scientific fact, with homo sapiens it is heterosexuality which is the basis for our procreation. So why should schools ban that and teach the abnormal? | Where are schools teaching that homosexual sex can lead to procreation and heterosexuality doesn't?  |
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Originally Posted by 1069 I'd never send my kids to public school in the first place.
They've always attended private, as did I. | Believe it or not, there are people who don't have the financial resources to do so. What about them?
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Current Mood: | Re: Mom and Dad banned in California schools, offends gays. This bill applies to both private and public schools in California.
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Current Mood: | Re: Mom and Dad banned in California schools, offends gays. Does anybody have a source other then WorldNetDaily and Free Republic I can get this from? Every place I've seen puts WND as the original source. Considering how they're the same people who posted an article stating a source between soy and homosexuality....anyways....I read the law and I couldn't find the place where it said the words "mom" and "dad" were banned....
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Originally Posted by 1069 No it's not. Less than half of all children live in traditional families today | Wrong most children are raised with a mother and a father, the issue and we should teach and encourage that ALL children get the mother and father in their lives that they deserve. |
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Originally Posted by Stinger Wrong most children are raised with a mother and a father, the issue and we should teach and encourage that ALL children get the mother and father in their lives that they deserve. | What if the father is a drug addict and the mother is a crack ho? |
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Originally Posted by winston53660 What if the father is a drug addict and the mother is a crack ho? | Didn't you leave our pedophiles who rape their children every night or cut their arms with razor blades and make them live dug our holes in the ground? |
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Originally Posted by Stinger Didn't you leave our pedophiles who rape their children every night or cut their arms with razor blades and make them live dug our holes in the ground? | Are you drunk? |
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Current Mood: | Re: Mom and Dad banned in California schools, offends gays. sb777
This is the part that would allow "boys" to go in to girls bathrooms and vice/versa: Quote: |
Originally Posted by sb777 SB 777, as introduced, Kuehl. Discrimination.
Existing law states that it is the policy of the state to afford
equal rights and opportunities to all persons in the public or
private elementary and secondary schools and postsecondary
educational institutions of the state regardless of their sex, ethnic
group identification, race, national origin, religion, or mental or
physical disability and prohibits a person from being subjected to
discrimination on those bases.
Existing law prohibits a teacher from giving instruction, and a
school district from sponsoring any activity, that reflects adversely
upon persons because of their race, sex, color, creed, handicap,
national origin, or ancestry.
Existing law prohibits the State Board of Education and the
governing board of a school district from adopting for use in the
public schools any instructional materials that reflect adversely
upon persons because of their race, sex, color, creed, handicap,
national origin, or ancestry. This bill would revise the list of prohibited bases of
discrimination and the kinds of prohibited instruction, activities,
and instructional materials and instead, would refer to disability,
gender, nationality, race or ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation,
or any other characteristic contained in the definition of hate
crimes that is contained in the Penal Code. The bill would define
disability, gender, nationality, race or ethnicity, religion, and
sexual orientation for this purpose. Vote: majority. Appropriation: no. Fiscal committee: no.
State-mandated local program: no.
THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:
SECTION 1. Section 200 of the Education Code is amended to read:
200. It is the policy of the State of California to afford all
persons in public schools, regardless of their sex, ethnic
group identification, race, national origin, religion, mental or
physical disability, or regardless of any actual or perceived
disability, *gender, nationality, race or ethnicity,
religion, sexual orientation, or any other characteristic that
is contained in the definition of hate crimes set forth in Section
422.55 of the Penal Code, equal rights and opportunities in the
educational institutions of the state. The purpose of this chapter is
to prohibit acts which are contrary to that policy and to provide
remedies therefor.
SEC. 2. Section 210.1 is added to the Education Code, to read:
210.1. "Disability" includes mental and physical disability.
SEC. 3. Section 210.1 of the Education Code is amended and
renumbered to read:
210.1. 210.3. "Educational
institution" means a public or private preschool, elementary, or
secondary school or institution; the governing board of a school
district; or any combination of school districts or counties
recognized as the administrative agency for public elementary or
secondary schools.
SEC. 4. Section 210.7 is added to the Education Code, to read: 210.7. "Gender" means sex, and includes a person's gender
identity and gender related appearance and behavior whether or not
stereotypically associated with the person's assigned sex at birth | The words "mom and dad" themselves have yet to be stricken from any textbooks, but it is only a matter of time until they will be.
Mom and Dad would have to be accompanied with just "mom' or just "dad" or "mom and mom", "dad & dad", "Mom & TS/TV", "dad & TS/TV", "TV/TS & TV TS" or Test-tube or somebody is bound to be offended, and now; capable of bringing a lawsuit about it!
You see? It's just much easier to remove "mom and dad" "husband & wife",...
Zo Vee vill nat have to sue you!
SB777 = forced lifestyle advocacy via the State; anyone who objects be damned.
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