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Old 10-14-07, 05:09 AM   #101 (permalink)
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Further research has indicated that a major determinant of positive outcomes for children is the level of conflict in the house, irrespective of the family structure. Who'd a thunk it?
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Old 10-14-07, 05:50 AM   #102 (permalink)
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Really? Well let's try this one from 2006. Here are some excepts:

The study is a longitudinal study, tracking people from age 16 to age 32. It concludes that women of divorced families have more problems in latter life, but, as indicated above, also shows that several factors contribute to that...not just the divorce.
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Both this and my prior study show that though, statistically, children in single parent households do worse than those in two-parent households, there are many factors that impact these results. The divorce is one, undoubtedly a significant one, but it is just one. Other factors play into this situation, too.
Both of the studies you cite provide support for my original contention.

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Old 10-14-07, 06:54 AM   #103 (permalink)
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Gee you're an angry bigot. Gotta love the hate from the so call tolerant crowd.
This doesn't make sense. This whole "intolerance of intolerance" crap is just crap and is tagged on the end of any hatefuelled rant to make it seem acceptable just like the idea of being anti-pc.
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Old 10-14-07, 07:04 AM   #104 (permalink)
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Remember Folks, Gays have no effect on your life... right?
I find this development disgusting.

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Old 10-14-07, 08:57 AM   #105 (permalink)
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Re: Mom and Dad banned in California schools, offends gays.

For everyone who is in favor of such Stalinist measures to keep our educational system from veering from the party-line can you 1.) prove that anyone is actually being discriminated what's now being taught by teachers in the California school system , and 2.) (after you're unable to do that) prove that legislation like this is really necessary?


This is how Marxism works. Package it using "fairness" as wrapping paper, so to make nobody question it.

Thank goodness for all of the leftist do-gooders out there who are on the spot to tell kids that if their teacher mentions anything about God, family, homosexuality, hetero-sexuality, mom and dad, lesbians, gays, transsexuals etc... they can sue their school!

Eventually this will lead to an atmosphere where teachers & schools will be so petrified of ticking off the P/C police, that they will cave in and meet any of their demands prior to going to court over it; laying the groundwork for future legislation guised as "fair" & subsequently more stealth demands from the left on what they want our society to be.
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Old 10-14-07, 11:42 AM   #106 (permalink)
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I find this development disgusting.


Please clarify.
Do you mean that you find SB777 "disgusting"?

You find the fact that public school teachers will- in futuro- be prevented from openly criticizing and discriminating against students on the basis of their family structures to be "disgusting"?

On the basis of our very brief and casual acquaintance, I find that difficult to fathom; you seem quite intelligent and open-minded.

Perhaps you mean that you find the fact that anti-gay and evangelical fundamentalist extremist groups are objecting to SB777 to be disgusting.

If so, we are in agreement.
I find it absolutely reprehensible as well.
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Old 10-14-07, 11:53 AM   #107 (permalink)
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Re: Mom and Dad banned in California schools, offends gays.

Hey Comrades!

Does anyone care to show demonstrable proof that homosexuals & transgendered students are being discriminated against in the California school system?

That would sure go along way in showing that this bill isn't really a stealth way of making lifestyle advocacy permanent, while silencing those who don't think that those types of things should be addressed in the supposedly "neutral" public schools.
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Old 10-14-07, 12:15 PM   #108 (permalink)
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Further research has indicated that a major determinant of positive outcomes for children is the level of conflict in the house, irrespective of the family structure. Who'd a thunk it?
Sounds like a "universal truth" to me . To get to the meat of the issue, I understand that sertan key componants must be present regardless of the family structure, but which family structures best facilitate those conditions?

Whatever those structures are, that's what should be suported.
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Hey Comrades!

Does anyone care to show demonstrable proof that homosexuals & transgendered students are being discriminated against in the California school system?

That would sure go along way in showing that this bill isn't really a stealth way of making lifestyle advocacy permanent, while silencing those who don't think that those types of things should be addressed in the supposedly "neutral" public schools.
Indeed. Is this legislation adressing an established, spicific problem in which people have been demonstratably victimized?
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Old 10-14-07, 12:54 PM   #110 (permalink)
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Dang, how old are you? Twelve?
A big twelve year old like you, clinging to concepts like "normal"?
Grow up, kid.
Got anything intelligent to add to the debate?

Yes there are and always have been societal norms and norms for our species. How absurd we teach the abnormal in schools and ban the normal.
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