Goldenboy219

What has happened in society that has caused such a sudden rift socially in the school systems today. The places in which most logically would it make sense, areas with a high murder rate, dont appear to happen.

Im not saying this doesnt happen in high crime areas, if it does, it certainly doesnt receive much media coverage in regards to the subject and incidence.

Why is this happening, and what could be changed to reduce a naughty little problem in American society????

ARealConservative

We are losing our sense of value for human life

UtahBill

Passive parents for one thing. They aren't raising their children, just feeding and clothing them until they are old enough to be kicked out of the nest.
They are neglecting their responsibilities as parents at the least. Children who feel disconnected from family end up feeling the same towards the rest of the human race. Most survive, some end up making the news.

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A_Wise_Fool

Once the school systems proclaimed life a cosmic accident and not the result of a creator it thus became meaningless over the years. So people tried to avoid that gap with saying life is given meaning by friends, families, relationships, enjoyment of everyday subtleties, pursuing life goals and finding one's self.

Now look at the kids today who do the shooting. All of them are outcasts, ostracized among peers, usually popping ritalin thus zombified and don't enjoy the subtleties of life, often do not relate to their families and cannot get guidance frome them, have terrible relationships and at the bottom of all this realize LIFE IS A MEANINGLESS COSMIC ACCIDENT ANYWAY.

It's pure and simple: you have yourself a dangerous person when you combine all of those and take away all meaning of life. It's often looked at as suicide with a hatred for all other MEANINGLESS life... what do you think will happen?

The silenced majority

Agreed 100%

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OKgrannie

All of them? Nothing about it is pure and simple. Your analysis is hogwash.

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World ® : School Issues: Secret Service Report Targets School Violence

"The Secret Service, FBI, and Garbarino agree that profiling students who may have traits similar to those of school shooters isn't an effective remedy. The big concern with profiling is that it can include about 25 percent of the students who have similar characteristics to school shooters, Garbarino said.

According to the Secret Service, profiling carries a risk of over-identifying students. The agency points out that the traits and characteristics of school shooters vary too much to be helpful. And schools may miss identifying potential shooters if they focus only on traits and characteristics common to shooters.

For example, not all school shooters were loners, the Secret Service report states. Some were popular students. They were not all on drugs either. Less than one-third had histories of drug or alcohol abuse. And few had been diagnosed with mental disorders before the attack. "



National Institute of Justice Journal, No 248--Preventing School Shootings: A Summary of a U.S. Secret Service Safe

"There Is No Stereotype or ProfileThere is no accurate or useful profile of “the school shooter.” The person-ality and social characteristics of theshooters varied substantially. Theycame from a variety of racial andethnic backgrounds and varied in age from 11 to 21 years. FamilyIt is important that threat assessment inquiries involve efforts to gather informationfrom anyone who may have contact with the student in question. It also is important to decrease barriers that may prevent students who have information from coming forward. In addition, both schools and investigators need a thoughtful,effective system for handling and analyzing any information that is provided.

NIJ Journalsno. 248, 200213situations ranged from intact fami-lies to foster homes. Academic per-formance ranged from excellent tofailing. Few had been diagnosedwith any mental disorder prior tothe incident, and less than one-thirdhad histories of drug or alcoholabuse.Thus profiling is not effective foridentifying students who may pose arisk for targeted violence at school.Knowing that an individual sharescharacteristics, features, or traitswith prior school shooters does notadvance the appraisal of risk. Theuse of profiles carries a risk of over-identification, and the vast majorityof students who fit any given profilewill not actually pose a risk. The useof these stereotypes will fail to iden-tify some students who do, in fact,pose a risk of violence, but whoshare few characteristics with priorattackers."

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Sergeant Stinger1

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I agree. But what has caused the American family to break down?
Mostly the $crewing Americans are taking from our Gov and the Greedy American Capitalist Greedy Pigs always looking for more and more ways to profit at the expense of American workers.
This has led to both parents having to work sometimes just to survive or just for the American dream of owning a house.
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So, get up 'Mom and Pop' and go to work and have less time to spend with your kids!

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Voidwar

God gave us religious war, and we know that for a fact, so even if your specious speculations about rationality were true, it is still better than religion. I'd rather have a school shooting every few years than ongoing religious wars that last centuries. Good thing we got that superstitous claptrap out of the school.

SFLRN

Those corporations are apparently screwing us so badly that almost every measurable standard of living has increased. Moreover, things have gotten so bad that there has been a rapid increase in the number of kids who see college as an academic possibility. I would wager that it's those big companies, which make up 2% of all businesses in the U.S., that are to blame.
The more probable cause of family "breakdown" is social. Certain generations tend to exhibit general traits. For example, the baby boomers were more of an "idealistic" crowd that always moved to question authority. They were also less likely to maintain stable relationships compared to past generations, and to consume drugs. The generation after X (I believe its called the millineum generation) is supposedly more of a "hero" generation; it is likely to be a generation that focuses more on cooperation than testing the norms or being "dreamers." They differ from the boomers in that they have been less inclined to test norms, (for youth) show less of an inclination to fight authority (see High School Musical), and more likely to be community focused. I would like to call this analysis my own, however, if one were to pickup the Harvard Business Review they would be able to get a more thorough picture of these generational trends.

Edify_Always_In_All_Ways

Which school textbook states that life is meaningless? No idea who you think believes that. Atheists, the ones who don't care about "The Creator" believe that this life is the one most worth living- it's the only one. Kids that shoot others seem to be influenced by violence in culture, rather than a belief that life is meaningless- we need stronger guidance programs in schools so that these kids won't feel the need to act on what they see.

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