"This isn't a daycare. This is a university!"

Jack Hays said:

The students are attacking free speech.

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I graduated college a few years ago. Please stop lumping all university students together.

Hawkeye10 said:

Come on. you can do better than that. One case does not good policy make.

Look at the forest not just your favorite tree.

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Parents shouldn't be allowed to torture and abuse their children. You sincerely disagree with that ?

Absentglare said:

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Parents shouldn't be allowed to torture and abuse their children. You sincerely disagree with that ?

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I cant answer that till you define "torture" and "abuse". Like the word "rape" they mean a lot of different things to different people, more things all the time as the victim culture advocates widen their power and with intent and intimidation expand the definitions ....which is the point that I was making earlier.

Hawkeye10 said:

I cant answer that till you define "torture" and "abuse". Like the word "rape" they mean a lot of different things to different people, more things all the time as the victim culture advocates widen their power and with intent and intimidation expand the definitions ....which is the point that I was making earlier.

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I already defined one instance where i feel it is justified. For your convenience, here is a reminder :

Absentglare said:

Oh ?

You think these people should have remained in custody of this kid ?

Couple pleads not guilty in South Bay torture case - San Jose Mercury News

Meth pipe burns and genital mutilation to a 20 month old baby ?

Sorry. No. **** that. The idea that we should throw out the whole program because it overreaches sometimes is stupid. Just stop overreaching. Draw up some reasonable boundaries.

Subjecting babies to serve as collateral for a meth deal is ... Unforgivable.

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Now, do you AGREE or DISAGREE that the baby should be taken away in that case ?

SheWolf said:

I graduated college a few years ago. Please stop lumping all university students together.

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I don't recall saying anything about "all" university students.

Absentglare said:

I already defined one instance where i feel it is justified. For your convenience, here is a reminder :



Now, do you AGREE or DISAGREE that the baby should be taken away in that case ?

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Of course, cant think of anyone I know who would say different.

How bout if I leave my nine year old alone for the day in a nice house and a full fridge as I go to work, should my kids be removed for neglect?

This sort of thing happens.

Hawkeye10 said:

Of course, cant think of anyone I know who would say different.

How bout if I leave my nine year old alone for the day in a nice house and a full fridge as I go to work, should my kids be removed for neglect?

This sort of thing happens.

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No, i admit that it goes too far. I just don't consider abolishing CPS to be a viable option.

Absentglare said:

No, i admit that it goes too far. I just don't consider abolishing CPS to be a viable option.

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CPS is not the problem, the problem is a government that always thinks that it knows best, and has bought the feminists argument that families should not have any rights because they can not be trusted. The problem is the marching orders of CPS and the police when it comes to families. Another developing problem is that our government increasingly advocates for snitch culture. Another problem is that this government has demanded that school employees and medical workers become snitches, their deputies. These people have pulled out the Stasi operating manual and are using it on us. I have a problem with that.

Thrilla said:

aye... those kids, more than anyone else, need to be "spoken up" to....and university is a fantastic place to teach them important life lessons .

it's too bad public universities are unwilling to teach such lessons, choosing instead to coddle the crybabies and set their agenda according to the loudest criers.

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It’s not that they’re unwilling; it’s that they’re fearful. And with very good reason. We’ve been a litigious society for quite some time now. Exquisitely delicate sensibilities must increasingly be “accommodated.” Calling on a college student in class can be seen as a “micro-aggression” because it potentially creates anxiety.

Complaints mean meetings and academic hearings, and you might not be surprised to learn that sometimes even the most baseless of complaints, the ones that are rejected at every level, somehow end up in the president's or regents' offices and can drag on for years.

There are a lot of hard-working and earnest college students. Some of the very best are returned veterans and other non-traditional students.

But even five years ago there weren’t so many little kids who think nothing of “acting out”/pitching a tantrum…so many students on meds…so many students who are genuinely unprepared for college-level work and who are frustrated that now they might not be given a grade they “feel” they deserve for “trying,” students who don’t understand that grades are earned.

Jack Hays said:

I don't recall saying anything about "all" university students.

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You can say almost anything about some university students, and a few will fit.

Jack Hays said:

The students are attacking free speech.

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"Attacking" :lamo

However, I do agree with the sentiment that criticizing the right to free speech is, ironically, a use of free speech.

"You should love your fellow mankind...always..."
"I'm not loving enough! You make me uncomfortable with your talk of love!"
"Grow up, Kid..."

I don't see the issue. Everyone practiced their free speech
If it doesn't go without saying that was my own interpretation...