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The new paradigm shift in public education

Marxist? Specifically what approach are you referring to?



Most teachers I know from TN to MA, whether they belong to a union or not, say the same thing about these over the top top down policies. These policies have been questioned by scholars too. Just because you don't have much interest in it, doesn't mean it has no merit.

Abstract
No Child Left Behind and other education reforms promoting high-stakes testing, accountability, and competitive markets continue to receive wide support from politicians and public figures. This support, the author suggests, has been achieved by situating education within neoliberal policies that argue that such reforms are necessary within an increasingly globalized economy, will increase academic achievement, and will close the achievement gap. However, the author offers preliminary data suggesting that the reforms are not achieving their stated goals. Consequently, educators need to question whether neoliberal approaches to education should replace the previously dominant social democratic approaches. Assessing No Child Left Behind and the Rise of Neoliberal Education Policies




Fair enough but many people who work in the trenches disagree.

Dewey's pragmatist ideologically was intentionally designed to be part of the Marxist class struggle. I didn't see the necessity of it being as such, given that his view of pedagogy otherwise had some very basic, very positive notions. He just thought that pedagogy needed to be a central component to ideology. There's some limitations to the progressive school of pedagogy, but it had a lot to contribute. I do find, however, that taking pedagogy and making it a microcosm for meta-politics to be rather distasteful. That's why I really don't care for this neoliberal vs. social democratic war in the classroom.

I'm not denying that Unions and some scholars see some sort of existential threat from standardization and accountability measurements, but it needn't be that way. Furthermore, while I am quite an adamant critic of NCLB's benchmark mandates, its usefulness with data is sorely underrated. Thankfully, it was preserved in the Senate version of the ESEA reauthorization and is now going to remain in the committee version as well.

Data collection, for many reasons, became associated with corporatism and neoliberalism like it was some kind of plague. But really, what it was doing was showing the public real figures on what many people already understood: that the public school system was underserving certain demographics.

Yeah, and sometimes those in the trenches need a good kick in the rear every so often.
That's why I abandoned the notion of staying in the trenches. The teaching profession needs a few good kicks in the rear and I help give it to them, because few will.
 
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Dewey's pragmatist ideologically was intentionally designed to be part of the Marxist class struggle. I didn't see the necessity of it being as such, given that his view of pedagogy otherwise had some very basic, very positive notions. He just thought that pedagogy needed to be a central component to ideology. There's some limitations to the progressive school of pedagogy, but it had a lot to contribute. I do find, however, that taking pedagogy and making it a microcosm for meta-politics to be rather distasteful. That's why I really don't care for this neoliberal vs. social democratic war in the classroom.

I'm not denying that Unions and some scholars see some sort of existential threat from standardization and accountability measurements, but it needn't be that way. Furthermore, while I am quite an adamant critic of NCLB's benchmark mandates, its usefulness with data is sorely underrated. Thankfully, it was preserved in the Senate version of the ESEA reauthorization and is now going to remain in the committee version as well.

Data collection, for many reasons, became associated with corporatism and neoliberalism like it was some kind of plague. But really, what it was doing was showing the public real figures on what many people already understood: that the public school system was underserving certain demographics.

Yeah, and sometimes those in the trenches need a good kick in the rear every so often.
That's why I abandoned the notion of staying in the trenches. The teaching profession needs a few good kicks in the rear and I help give it to them, because few will.

your posts illustrate that the wrong people are providing guidance to our nation's public education industry
 
your posts illustrate that the wrong people are providing guidance to our nation's public education industry

That I am providing poor advice?
 
Public Schools Are The Next Big Thing For Private Equity And Venture Capital: Private Equity And Venture Capital Look At Public Schools - Business Insider

What do you say? Will capitalist care about how kids are educated, or are they looking for a profit? Will they cut costs to make profit and if so, how will that effect those who costs the most?

What say you?

No matter what you say prepare for big changes because the financialization of education is here.

Portfolio Strategy | Center on Reinventing Public Education

Here is what Bruce Bartlett has to say:

While all economists agree that the financial sector contributes significantly to economic growth, some now question whether that is still the case. According to Stephen G. Cecchetti and Enisse Kharroubi of the Bank for International Settlements, the impact of finance on economic growth is very positive in the early stages of development. But beyond a certain point it becomes negative, because the financial sector competes with other sectors for scarce resources. http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/11/financialization-as-a-cause-of-economic-malaise/

They're going to privatize public education and it make a for profit venture linked directly to the military and the corporate job market. The students will be groomed and sent in the direction that their strong points suggest. The old Soviet Union used to do the same thing: athletics, engineering, medicine, military and then factory jobs.

Schools will be judged on their profitability and their ability to return on investment through scoring, GPA and placement. Education will be completely agenda driven with the profit motive leading the way.

The lucid free form of education will become a dinosaur and modern American education will adhere to a hierarchical vertically incorporated / monopolistic business driven agenda.

That's the plan.
 
I'm not denying that Unions and some scholars see some sort of existential threat from standardization and accountability measurements, but it needn't be that way. Furthermore, while I am quite an adamant critic of NCLB's benchmark mandates, its usefulness with data is sorely underrated. Thankfully, it was preserved in the Senate version of the ESEA reauthorization and is now going to remain in the committee version as well.

Data collection, for many reasons, became associated with corporatism and neoliberalism like it was some kind of plague. But really, what it was doing was showing the public real figures on what many people already understood: that the public school system was underserving certain demographics.

If you read the research paper, the paper is basically proving that these measures taking place are not working as intended. Not only are they not working as intended but they have been detrimental because of how they are being misused.
 
They're going to privatize public education and it make a for profit venture linked directly to the military and the corporate job market. The students will be groomed and sent in the direction that their strong points suggest. The old Soviet Union used to do the same thing: athletics, engineering, medicine, military and then factory jobs.

Schools will be judged on their profitability and their ability to return on investment through scoring, GPA and placement. Education will be completely agenda driven with the profit motive leading the way.

The lucid free form of education will become a dinosaur and modern American education will adhere to a hierarchical vertically incorporated / monopolistic business driven agenda.

That's the plan.

Yes, the plan is for public resources to be privatized including public education. As another poster already stated, goods and services for the most part should be market based. With that said, not all things currently in the public's hands should have a profit motive. I couldn't agree more.
 
If you read the research paper, the paper is basically proving that these measures taking place are not working as intended. Not only are they not working as intended but they have been detrimental because of how they are being misused.

Some measures certainly are not working as intended, or at the very least, not to the degree desired or argued. The AYP benchmarks from NCLB were beyond foolish, when it would have been enough of an experiment to find out if the Department of Ed could have positive impact in requiring schools to go back to the drawing board with an improvement plan. That's a debate of scale that's worth having, because in some fields of education, such top-down management can and has had a positive impact for school performance (for any number of reasons, including but not limited to, a lack of respect from school districts toward the state office). But believing you'd have 100% of students being proficient in any given subject was beyond foolish, along with the litany of punishments so rendered.

Charters have had mixed benefit, which when scaled, produces an overall effect of zero. Nevertheless, if one were to zero in on certain districts (my favorite discussion point at the moment is the D.C. Public Schools and the D.C. Charters), the positive impact of charters is really hard to argue against. Free marketers who trumpeted the miracle pill of the market dramatically oversold their cure, but it has its uses.

Nevertheless, there has been an exaggerated reaction against certain reforms because of this inevitable problem with scale or with too hard-handed compliance measures. Furthermore, there's also been this long-standing knee-jerk reaction against accountability via the form of data and data trails. Both have been dogged as some sort of 'corporatist' education model (in the pejorative sense), while what it does is give evidence to systemic issues that would otherwise be passed off as a figment of the public's imagination. That's why I support the standardization and accountability movement's sense for data collection and compliance with that, among other basic reforms instituted over the last 40 some years. Many of them get dogged by teachers and unions for being unfair, teacher-hating, and whatever other nonsense.

Heck, in the most extreme of cases, I've seen teachers and administration walk in front of state legislatures proclaiming that accountability and data trails exist for potentially harmful (and fatal) education practices, when in fact none existed. We were told "oh yeah, teachers have it together and can be trusted because they are professionals who care about the well-being of children [and insert the usual professional lingo platitudes]." Then of course, immediately afterwards you get someone from an agency that teachers said get the data, and that agency rep tells the legislature, "actually, there's no standard procedure for the utilization of this policy, and there's absolutely no way we are notified of its use. We only hear about it if the parent knows about us and tells us about it. In the past 6 months, we've been alerted by parents to numerous instances of use of this, and sometimes it was potentially fatal, given the health issues of the student."

But, you know, trust the teachers and their art of teaching, right?

Like I said, I trust teachers more than businessmen, but I do not give teachers as much confidence as they seem to want. There's absolutely no reason why education reform needs to be pitted against two incredibly distinct models (as you put it, social democratic v. neoliberal). Both teachers and free marketers have been grossly responsible for this. It does a disservice to education policy and educational outcomes.
 
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