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    "Liberal" college education

    For countless years people have always attacked college education as being 'liberalized' . . . and 'liberally leaning' and 'liberally tainted' - going on up to Santorum's grand foot-in-mouth moment recently where he did under the entire higher education system for being capable of only producing liberals with their wretched liberality.

    What: conservatives don't believe in higher education? Pray tell: why not? Does the notion of study and truth frighten them or something?

    Well - I'm tired of hearing this bull**** accusation against higher education which serves to undermine an effort to educate one's adults self as merely being wastefully submersed into a wretched world of ungodly liberalistic deceit and lies and the moment they step foot in a college classroom they're going to morph - or something.

    I'd like some proof that I'm being brainwashed. . . and can't think for myself while still acing my tests. Or that all my professors are a bunch of liberal butt wiping baboons who don't deserve respect or an open ear from their students.

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    Re: "Liberal" college education

    you're confusing "Liberal Arts", with Liberalism..the economic & social value.

    a Liberal Arts education is one that touches on math, sciences, art, engineering, sociology, etc etc.

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    Re: "Liberal" college education

    Out of the handful of professors that i have or had in college that have been open about their political orientation, one was left-leaning (military history professor, who by the way, teaches at the Marine Corps War College and rubs shoulders with much of the Pentagon top brass, including guys like Petraeus and Bacevich), the rest were right-leaning (European/French history professor, macro econ professor, political economy professor).

    The vast majority of professors, are, however, academics and knowledge-seekers first and foremost. Political partisanship is waaay down the list in my experience.
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    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: "Liberal" college education

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    you're confusing "Liberal Arts", with Liberalism..the economic & social value.

    a Liberal Arts education is one that touches on math, sciences, art, engineering, sociology, etc etc.
    No, she's addressing the perception that college education = liberal indoctrination.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: "Liberal" college education

    The demonizing of higher education is down right scary to me. Don't these people realize that unless we get back on top with regards to education then our standing in the world will plummet?
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    Re: "Liberal" college education

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    The demonizing of higher education is down right scary to me. Don't these people realize that unless we get back on top with regards to education then our standing in the world will plummet?
    Well, there's a bunch of concerns with that, not just college.

    I, for one, think that primary and secondary education need to be addressed. Also, kids need to realize that in the current environment, a college degree miiight not be a good deal. Sometimes it pays off to go a different path and go to a technical or trade school or something of that nature.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: "Liberal" college education

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    No, she's addressing the perception that college education = liberal indoctrination.
    well........that reminds me of "A Canticle for Liebowitz", where the post-Apocolyptic society chose to reject all education.

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    Re: "Liberal" college education

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Well, there's a bunch of concerns with that, not just college.

    I, for one, think that primary and secondary education need to be addressed. Also, kids need to realize that in the current environment, a college degree miiight not be a good deal. Sometimes it pays off to go a different path and go to a technical or trade school or something of that nature.
    When it's referred to as 'higher education' that usually refers to trade school as well.

    I think theres a huge and unfair misconception that 'higher education' is only boring statistician and business management courses where you muse about business ethics, 5 legs and shoving of the fatman onto the level to shift the track.

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    Re: "Liberal" college education

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    When it's referred to as 'higher education' that usually refers to trade school as well.

    I think theres a huge and unfair misconception that 'higher education' is only boring statistician and business management courses where you muse about business ethics, 5 legs and shoving of the fatman onto the level to shift the track.
    Not a business major so I can't really address that - humanities and social sciences are my thing for the most part.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: "Liberal" college education

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    my sister got a BA in Anthropology.

    it was a stupid, stupid choice.
    Relevance? Or you just trying to tell us a random story?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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