Why is socialism a bad thing?

DrunkenAsparagus · 01-12-10, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Regicollis

I can't see why state governments should be any less corrupt than the federal government. One of the advantages of the federal government is that it takes a lot of economic power to corrupt it or to intimidate it. A state government on the other hand is much smaller and thus even relatively small businesses can extort it by threatening to move to another state or bribe legislators to pass legislation.

How is lowering the cost of corruption going to reduce it?

You see the relationship between business and government as adversial like between Kings vs the aristocrats in Old Europe. Government is the one able to put a gun to one's head, not business. State and local governments would be less corrupt and more efficent because they're dealing with fewer resources for fewer people. It will be easier ot keep track of what the government is doing. Also, governments can take the best ideas from other states instead of putting all of their eggs in one basket with a big federal government

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Originally Posted by Regicollis

So you don't those parts of the federal government that helps capital, i.e. courts, the FBI, the military and so on?

A non-statist isn't necessarily an Anarchist. It simply means that they don't want government to take a large role in their lives, and that it should be restricted to a few things

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Originally Posted by Regicollis

A moral society don't work on charity. A moral society treats people as citizens and provides rights and possibilities, not occasional alms for the poor from rich people who does it for their own greater glory.

Why?

presluc · 01-12-10, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Z3n

the invisible hand needed an invisible bailout

LOL touche'

presluc · 01-12-10, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus

You see the relationship between business and government as adversial like between Kings vs the aristocrats in Old Europe. Government is the one able to put a gun to one's head, not business. State and local governments would be less corrupt and more efficent because they're dealing with fewer resources for fewer people. It will be easier ot keep track of what the government is doing. Also, governments can take the best ideas from other states instead of putting all of their eggs in one basket with a big federal government

A non-statist isn't necessarily an Anarchist. It simply means that they don't want government to take a large role in their lives, and that it should be restricted to a few things

Why?

Funny, I thought all the eggs was in the corporate basket, seems like their the ones getting all the attention,plus most of the tax money.

phattonez · 01-12-10, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Z3n

the invisible hand needed an invisible bailout

Did it really? Because all capitalists on this forum denounced the bailouts.

Voluntary · 01-12-10, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by phattonez

Did it really? Because all capitalists on this forum denounced the bailouts.

I hear that the FED is a market institution that isn't responsible for regulating our economy and overseeing a plethora of depressions.

This financial crises was all caused by the invisible hand and that artificially suppressing interest rate below the market rate is goobernuck.

DrunkenAsparagus · 01-12-10, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by presluc

Funny, I thought all the eggs was in the corporate basket, seems like their the ones getting all the attention,plus most of the tax money.

Read my damn posts

phattonez · 01-12-10, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus

Read my damn posts

Just ignore him already.

Z3n · 01-12-10, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by phattonez

Did it really? Because all capitalists on this forum denounced the bailouts.

The actual capitalists on wall street went crawling to the big bad government to save their corporate ass.

phattonez · 01-12-10, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Z3n

The actual capitalists on wall street went crawling to the big bad government to save their corporate ass.

When government hands out money like that it's corporatism. Big business LOVES government intervention because big business gets all the love. But that's not capitalism, it's economic fascism.

Z3n · 01-12-10, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by phattonez

When government hands out money like that it's corporatism. Big business LOVES government intervention because big business gets all the love. But that's not capitalism, it's economic fascism.

And deregulatory practices do nothing but help the current economic conglomerates gobble up the competition and workers

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