lizzie

To me, the biggest reason socialism is a bad thing is that it is inconsistent with natural laws. Evolution itself depends on weeding out what does not work. Nature does not play favorites and is immune to moral reasons why something should survive. Humans (as all the other creatures in nature) are competitive by nature, and expect that adaptive and superior qualities will succeed.

Whip Comes Down

The U. S. is one of the best examples of that.

presluc

Well, Capitalism hasn't done that great either.

You recall of course how Capitalism was booming and then the stock market crashed, that was exactly good times for any individual at that time in history.

Then there's today what is it 6 trillion in debt?

Also a Capitalist nation America oweing money to a Socialist nation China.

Some individuals might start to ask why?

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Arch Enemy

"Standards of living" don't give me that bull****. We work more hours and are more stressed than Bushmen.




The percentage of population within the poverty line is growing, not decreasing. There are more poor than there's rich. The rich will always make up a very alien class.

Big Government and Big Business are so intertwined, now-a-days (notice that I was talking about previous generations in the earlier post), that you can barely determine who is who. Watch how Goldman Sachs played the revolving door, especially during the recession and the bail outs.

Obama and Bush won being "more like you!", but it's neither Bush nor Obama who are the masterminds of their regimes. You think Obama actually makes policy with other leaders during the G-20 or G-8 summits? The Country is pretty stupid, but not that stupid-- The policies are made behind the scenes with other economists and "experts" from other countries (most of whom came in through a revolving door as well). Obama is just the clown that keeps on laughing while the serious douchebags are doing their serious work.

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presluc

It would be my guess at present te U.S. is about 85% Capitalist and 15% socialist.

Look at who has the biggest % of the wealth.

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Goldenboy219

Why??? That's easy! We purchase more from them (with dollars) than they purchase from us. Are we expecting them to just hold the dollars

BTW, they are an authortarian capitalist country!

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presluc

If we as Americans were making more stuff in America we would be buying here and more money would be in circulation plus more tax revenue for the governmement state and federal..

As far as an authortarian Capitalist country,

Which country has the most exports and which has the most imports?

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Goldenboy219

Would we really??? We know the costs would be quite high, and given that fact, would we really be diverting resources away from industries in which we have the greatest comparative advantage?

You propose the US decreases its standard of living?


What does the current account have to do with determining authoritarian capitalism?

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lizzie

The US has not seen true capitalism for close to 100 years.

Goldenboy219

More like...... ever!

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